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At The Back => Time Out => Topic started by: Crazy_Joe on April 11, 2007, 11:28:35 PM
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Apart from Blues, Metal and Rock and the standard guitar music, does anyone listen to anything other than that? :p
Personally i listen to anything with the exception of the indie bands which i cannot stand.
Since most of my town is trendy or chav i get the joy of listening to lots of gansta rap and techno and indie as there are no metal clubs or bars in town, but i think it's good to listen to lots of different styles and not just stick to one thing, and some of it is good and i actually listen to it daily.
Right now i'm into the Drum n Bass band Pendulum from Australia. They actually use guitar, bass and drums and stuff not just a keyboard like a lot of other bands!
I'm expecting most posts to be full of laughter or something along the lines of 'you crazy fool!'
So anyone else like something a little different?
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GANSTA RAP!
WHERE MI BOIZ AT?
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:lol: i think i have actually met someone on a friday night who has said that before hahaha!
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classical, jazz, etc. i listen to most stuff that's actually any good. i don't only listen to guitar.
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I can pretty much sit and listen to any kind of music without a problem. At the moment I have been studying Bluegrass since last october, after my father in law took me to a Bluegrass jam session. Not my cup of tea, but it has turned out to be challenging. Nowdays(i show up only once a month), my nose doesn't gets too bloody every time we go. Nice folks though, real polite southern gentlemen . Somebody told me about a Bluegrass band that recorded a cd with all Metallica songs . Ah, no electric, only acoustic . Now....that sucks.
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I listen to a wide range of music-probably easier to say what I don't listen to but I never close my mind to music as I can be pleasantly surprised to find something I like which I wouldn't have done if I said to myself that I hated a particular type. But I do have my favourites and I have noticed that I gravitate towards them in times of need.
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A lot of classical, a lot of folk, fair bit of bluegrass. More country than is probably healthy too...
Not as much jazz as I should though, really need to work on that...
*Rahnooo*
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folk, classical, ANYTHING BUT POP AND INDIE!
sorry indie lovers, but i just don't get it.
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folk, classical, ANYTHING BUT POP AND INDIE!
sorry indie lovers, but i just don't get it.
Me too.. Bloc Party came on the radio earlier and I just couldnt understand how anyone could enjoy it... the songs just dont go anywhere :\
edit - though it still involves guitars, I'm getting into some industrial music now, thanks to the '300' film soundtrack and that great song called "Fever Dream", plus the advert music - NIN - Just like you imagined :)
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folk, classical, ANYTHING BUT POP AND INDIE!
sorry indie lovers, but i just don't get it.
Me too.. Bloc Party came on the radio earlier and I just couldnt understand how anyone could enjoy it... the songs just dont go anywhere :\
exactly. they also try to call themselves "indie rock"....... IT DOESNT ROCK!!!!
ACDC ROCKS!!!!!
indie is not true rock.
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I can listen to anything with cool guitar work in it.
I'm also a big rockabilly/psychobilly fan.
I'm not the kind of guy who listens to classical or jazz. But I do apreiciate it when people play that music with passion. There was this chick on TV the other day who played the alto violin. She talked about her passion and love for the instrument and I could totally relate to that. When she played that violin, I was blown away.
I can't stand sobism is any kind of music.
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folk, classical, ANYTHING BUT POP AND INDIE!
sorry indie lovers, but i just don't get it.
Me too.. Bloc Party came on the radio earlier and I just couldnt understand how anyone could enjoy it... the songs just dont go anywhere :\
exactly. they also try to call themselves "indie rock"....... IT DOESNT ROCK!!!!
ACDC ROCKS!!!!!
indie is not true rock.
I dunno, I like all guitar based music. If it inspires me to play than I usually like it. I also like classical music a lot as I used to listen to it heavily throughout university (whilst studying for finals).
I haven't got a lot of time for dance anymore. I used to be a big clubber, but cannot be arsed now. I've gone back to my roots, listening to a lot of blues, classic rock and metal at the moment. Guitar nourishment as I like to call it...
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I really generally dislike metal. And ACDC. I just find there to be too many macho cliches around it.
I love jazz, the avant garde. Prog, funk, hip hop, rap, some indie (but less of the haircuts, please)
Having said that, I love some metal. Tool and Mastodon are awesome.
I think there are only two genres of music - good music and bad music.
I even love some pop music.
What's the big deal? It's only the same 12 notes to pick from...
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I can pretty much sit and listen to any kind of music without a problem. At the moment I have been studying Bluegrass since last october, after my father in law took me to a Bluegrass jam session. Not my cup of tea, but it has turned out to be challenging. Nowdays(i show up only once a month), my nose doesn't gets too bloody every time we go. Nice folks though, real polite southern gentlemen . Somebody told me about a Bluegrass band that recorded a cd with all Metallica songs . Ah, no electric, only acoustic . Now....that sucks.
Heh it can actually work pretty well see Hayseed Dixie, I think they've done metallica covers, they also do a lot of AC/DC and Aerosmith stuff.
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I hate indie i can't stand it, i really don't see what the attraction is to it, it's pretty much the only thing that i can't listen to.
Saying that there was a song called 'i love it when you call' can't remember who it was by but it was some indie band and it had a really cool solo in it.
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I hate indie i can't stand it, i really don't see what the attraction is to it, it's pretty much the only thing that i can't listen to.
Saying that there was a song called 'i love it when you call' can't remember who it was by but it was some indie band and it had a really cool solo in it.
The Feeling
I love their album, they are excellent songwriters IMO. :oops:
Their guitarists are pretty good.
Crazy Joe - too much hate in this world.
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I listen to a fair bit of latin Jazz and Nu Flamenco (yeah, I made that up, but if I worked for NME it would be the new official genre name). I really like an Iranian "Nu flamenco" guitarist called Armik, check him out on Napster. Quite laid back but great playing.
I also like old school funk and a bit of country.
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This is a bit of a guilty pleasure, but I really like the songs "Le Disko" and "You are the one" by Shiny Toy Guns :oops: so catchy, plus the female singer is pretty hot...
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Good thread, Joe. :D
I listen to mostly hard rock and (older) metal, a bit of blues (largely white-boy stuff with a rock sensibility, I'm afraid), Zappa, a few singer-songwriter types (Matthew Sweet, Thea Gilmore). Guitar-based music, pretty much.
I love classical music (although that's a very broad statement, I suppose I mean the better known composers really) but know very little about it. I feel a definite connection with Celtic/British folk music - but know almost nothing about it.
I love the sound of harmony vocals, be it Steeleye Span, King's X, Alice In Chains or Tyr. And I like rock bands with female vocalists.
I find jazz and country very difficult to listen to, but enjoy seeing them played live.
I don't dislike indie music in principle, but I don't like much of it in practice - it always sounds like "rock-lite" and I want them to crank their amps up to 10 and take a solo... And I can't stand those boring whiny bands like Athlete and Snow Patrol.
I dislike 95% of dance music because I can't stand the repetition and the computer-generated rhythms. Rhythm sections should sound like human beings, they shouldn't be in perfect time. I have heard some electronica which seemed genuinely interesting and creative, but no idea which artists.
And I HATE hip-hop music for its sexist, racist, homophobic, violent, gun-culture lyrics, total lack of imagination and the mumbling that passes for "rapping" from the likes of that cretin 50 Cent. And it really pisses me off that half the under-25s in Britain now talk as if they came from somewhere halfway between Kingston, Jamaica and South Central LA and call each other "blood". :evil:
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And it really pisses me off that half the under-25s in Britain now talk as if they came from somewhere halfway between Kingston, Jamaica and South Central LA and call each other "blood".
:lol: :lol:
My sentiments exactly...
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My sentiments exactly...
I see we live in the same part of London, Ted! :lol:
But it seems to be a national phenomenon. Innit.
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The problem most people have with Indie is that the chart stuff is somewhat bland and un-inspiring ... Bloc Party, Maximo Park, Kaiser Chefs, Keane, Coldplay et al are all a bit by the numbers and derivative, albeit often well produced due to record label dollars. As long as the kids all bounce a long to it at V everyone is happy. Which isn't a bad thing, but as Noel Gallager would say, it doesn't make it music :)
Some of the older / less well known (or at least less hyped) bands are much better IMO: Charlatans, Stone Roses, The Cure (not the singles), Yeah Yeah Yeahs, Gossip, Kings of Leon, Arcade Fire, PJ Harvey ... its half my music collection. Well, I like them anyway :)
+1 to Philly Q for the female vocalists comment ... there should be more of that in rock in general. I probably actually prefer a strong female voice on top of crashing guitars to a male one ... but that is also probably related to me having a thing for women that rock :P
And music where there are no guitars involved ... Mozart, and that's about it for me! Hmmm, maybe I should diversify a little bit ...
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You can get good rap and people who rap about what we can relate to.
There is a guy called Akala from London who doesn't talk about hoes and guns and pimps, his lyrics are actually quite good.
It's mostly the fake American rappers that suck, like 50 cent and G unit and all that nonsense :lol:
What about drum n bass band Prodigy!! Surely some people listen to them?
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What about drum n bass band Prodigy!! Surely some people listen to them?
I'll take your brain to another dimension ... pay close attention :)
Chemical Brothers and Leftfield 'Leftism' too, both heavily listened to over here.
And on the subject of non-homocidal Rap, did someone mention the Beastie Boys yet?
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You can get good rap and people who rap about what we can relate to.
Fair enough, I'm sure there's good stuff, as there is in every genre. I liked the stuff Public Enemy did with Anthrax years ago, but obviously that wasn't pure rap. And I've got the first Body Count album. :roll: :oops:
As for relating to it, that's probably more true for people your age than mine! :P
What about drum n bass band Prodigy!! Surely some people listen to them?
They had some good songs, with real rock energy and real guitars too. But I could only take them in very small doses. My brother lent me their album The Fat Of The Land and I would pick it up and look at it occasionally, but somehow I could never bring myself to play it...
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well, i love the music of Bjork, Tori Amos, Joni Mitchell, Rimsky Korsakov, a bit of Verdi, Helicoptor Girl's first album, Miles Davis, and i can often be found down the pub at a traditional seisun. oh and that modern beat combo Bentley Rhythm Ace were quite good. oh, and Goldfrapp.
as said above, every genre has about 15-20% good and about 80% a bit rubbish. and listening to other kinds of music can only broaden your own playing. well, my playing's too cr@p to broaden, but for you guys that can play!
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And I've got the first Body Count album.
shite! I used to have that album on tape!
I loved that album at the time, I was still at school, those were happy days indeed...
I dread to think what it would sound like if I played it now! Better not then...I remember it used to make me laugh and I quite liked Ice T back then.
I also love Beastie Boys, too. I have a mixtape somewhere of a really good MC scratchin' old hip-hop records, James Brown & Michael Jackson samples etc etc. I always thought older 80's stuff like that was cool.
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I listen to as broad a spectrum of music as anyone i've met. I just like music, as opposed to genres.
There's not a lot of hip hop that i like, but I don't discount anything without giving it a listen.
Incidentally, I really don't get the elitist "Anything but pop!!" nonsense. That simply means it's in the charts.
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Beastie Boys and Chemical Brothers are awesome! And i second the Micheal Jackson aswel, he has some quality tunes.
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I dread to think what it would sound like if I played it now! Better not then...I remember it used to make me laugh and I quite liked Ice T back then.
I listened to it a few months ago, it still sounds OK actually, as long as you don't take the lyrics seriously. Ice-T has always struck me as an intelligent chap, so I like to think at least some of his lyrics are tongue-in-cheek. But then you see him with that ridiculous gun collection...
While we're talking rap-meets-rock, I still like that Beastie Boys album Licensed To Ill (with the Kerry King guest appearance!). And I like the Workhorse Movement and Kid Rock (more for the greasy 70s rock riffs than the rap stuff).
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Just thought of a great band who mixed rock, metal, funk, soul and blaxploitation-soundtrack music to fantastic effect -
Big Chief.
Don't know how I managed to forget them!
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I have stuff that I like that doesnt centre on guitars: some classical, jazz, electronic(ish). Things like miles davis, portishead, grieg and whatnot.
But I wouldnt say I 'listen' to it. Its good, but it makes up perhaps 5-10% of my music collection and less of my listening time.
The closest I come to listening to non-guitar music regularly is post rock. I love bands like Mogwai, mono, godspeed you! Black emperor, grails, and other very atmospheric bands with a lot of samples and electronic sounds. But obviously the guitar is still a major part of it, its just used in unconventional, effects laden ways a lot of the time, and its not obviously guitar any more.
I still prefer the more guitar-heavy branches of that, though: isis (probably my favourite band), pelican, callisto, cult of luna at al.
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I really generally dislike metal. And ACDC. I just find there to be too many macho cliches around it.
you dislike it because of the cliches? jesus.....
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I really generally dislike metal. And ACDC. I just find there to be too many macho cliches around it....
*Nathan Explosion voice*
Jesus, thats brutal.
*back to normal*
I like metal for the music.
But I dont see anything, nothing at all, wrong with being 'macho'. Masculinity is a bit maligned these days, and we're lacking strong male characters in society. I think we need them. And I'm not talking about manowar type cr@p! That IS cliched bull. Fuc!< it, and the horse it rode in on.
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I love film scores. Danny Elfman is an amazing composer.
Alan Silverstri is another good one.
I like to listen to Jazz now and again.
Love Frank Sinatra and The Rat Pack.
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Nothing like some good ole J pop/rock.
Also love unusual music such as The Dresden Dolls.
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Way off topic, but:
But I dont see anything, nothing at all, wrong with being 'macho'. Masculinity is a bit maligned these days, and we're lacking strong male characters in society.
Agreed that there's a lack of strong male role models (whatever that means) in society today. The traditional "breadwinner" has all but disappeared and we don't seem to quite know our role in society or the family. TV dramas, even adverts, may not show "real" life but they reflect how attitudes have changed - they portray women as strong, capable organisers and men as bumbling, ineffective twits.
But I've always taken "macho" to mean an exaggerated show of masculinity - a posture, something fake. If macho is going around getting pissed, fathering as many kids as you can with different women and fighting in the street over some fatuous notion of "respect", then we've got more than enough of that already. Strong - yes. Macho - f*ck that.
As for Metal, I don't think it's ever really been macho. Most Metal musicians are nerds who got to live out their rock star fantasies. Look at Nikki Sixx's high school photo. Or listen to an interview with Trey Azagthoth - Über-Geek!
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Well, thats a semanitics thing. We have different understandings of 'macho'.
We clearly agree, though. I'm not condoning retarded behaviour - getting drunk and picking fights, sexism or any willfull stupidity.
I'm saying, as you are, the current male image is very poorly defined, lost, innefectual, bumbling, apathetic and worse. To me a part of 'masculinity' is the self assurance, capability and assertiveness that is the opposite of that, and what 'men', if that they are, seem to be presented as and are turning into in our society.
A show of strength can be many more things, and much more forcefull than a punch in the face that your 'macho' type would use! (though I'm no pacafist, but thats yet another topic!).
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+1 to Philly Q for the female vocalists comment ... there should be more of that in rock in general. I probably actually prefer a strong female voice on top of crashing guitars to a male one ... but that is also probably related to me having a thing for women that rock :P
Oddly enough, there's quite a few female/female fronted rock/metal bands in Japan...
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Nothing like some good ole J pop/rock.
Can I admit to owning 12 Megumi Hayashibara albums. But I can't find Perfume, Shamrock or Pulse anywhere...
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The term 'classical' is totally overused. I mean, people call classical anywhere between the early 1600's (Baroque period: Bach, etc.) to the late-ish 1800's (Impressionist period: Debussy, Ibert, etc). That's like 200 years, whereas the 1980's spawned about ten different genres of metal!
But anyway, I don't really listen to any Baroque music (playing it is a different matter, it's just so fun!) but I like most music of the 1800's (Romantic/Impressionist period: Chopin, Liszt, Debussy, etc.). Beethoven and Mozart never really did a lot for me, though.
I love jazz in most its forms (Bebop, Swing, Latin, Afro-cuban, Brubeck-esque) minus most of the avant-garde stuff. I like most of the famous rock bands of the 70's and most forms of metal.
I also like basically anything with good piano or guitar work.
But there's still a LOT of music I still need to hear!
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The term 'classical' is totally overused. I mean, people call classical anywhere between the early 1600's (Baroque period: Bach, etc.) to the late-ish 1800's (Impressionist period: Debussy, Ibert, etc). That's like 200 years, whereas the 1980's spawned about ten different genres of metal!
Yes, but classical is the accepted term to cover all it's subgenre's. Just as metal covers Thrash, death metal, black metal, power metal etc etc.
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I don't listen to a lot of rap, hip-hop, or new country .... but I've probably got some. I even have some straight-up pop music in the collection.
There's no bad music -- only some music that you like more than other music!
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The term 'classical' is totally overused. I mean, people call classical anywhere between the early 1600's (Baroque period: Bach, etc.) to the late-ish 1800's (Impressionist period: Debussy, Ibert, etc). That's like 200 years, whereas the 1980's spawned about ten different genres of metal!
Those aren't really subgenres though - they're periods. Obviously they sound totally different, but they're more about the evolution of music over time rather than the music being classified differently intentionally.
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Well, thats a semanitics thing. We have different understandings of 'macho'.
We clearly agree, though. I'm not condoning retarded behaviour - getting drunk and picking fights, sexism or any willfull stupidity.
I'm saying, as you are, the current male image is very poorly defined, lost, innefectual, bumbling, apathetic and worse. To me a part of 'masculinity' is the self assurance, capability and assertiveness that is the opposite of that, and what 'men', if that they are, seem to be presented as and are turning into in our society.
A show of strength can be many more things, and much more forcefull than a punch in the face that your 'macho' type would use! (though I'm no pacafist, but thats yet another topic!).
For sure, society has seen a slow emasculation of the male figure. It even goes so far that we are becoming more and more sexually redundant as women are more than capable of being impregnated without the male sex organ - whereas we are wholly dependant on the female reproductive systems.
There is undoubtably a poor representation of strong typically alpha male figures in society these days. At least, in the way we might initially believe. But the problems of apathy, bumblingness, loss of direction etc effect both genders. We just haven't seen a 'male-empowerment' movement as we did with women - both politically and culturally (through mediums such as 'Sex and The City').
When I questioned 'macho cliches' in metal - I meant exactly that: cliches. I don't have a problem with men being men, that's what we are meant for. There seems to be a pervasive culture around some parts of metal where it is little more than a pissing contest to see who is the most hardcore - read the other thread on Zakk Wylde. Wow, you didn't wash your jacket for 90 days :roll: That's the mentality that I'm talking about.
Yeah, I don't need to wash. Lets drink beer and press weights!
-If you want to, that is fine. But if you are only doing it because all those who went before you did it, then you're exactly the same as the next indie band with the Wella Shockwaves and the hair-straighteners.
Now, that's a gross oversimplification and I apologise for being facetious, but that's part of an attitude I've seen around many metal bands. Fighting, being as muscley as you can - hell, even so far as burning churches - it all seems to be part of some ego-fuelled display of masculinity.
It's OK to be angry, but you have to have a reason, a cause. I will forever love Fugazi because they were as angry as anything, yet they had reason and an argument. A lot of metal bands I used to listen to were angry either for no apparent reason, or for reasons (such as the church) that a true man would accept another person's right to think differently, and walk away.
Some metal is great. Don't get me wrong. But as I say, some of it just gets a little too close to being a characiture that I struggle to enjoy it.
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The term 'classical' is totally overused. I mean, people call classical anywhere between the early 1600's (Baroque period: Bach, etc.) to the late-ish 1800's (Impressionist period: Debussy, Ibert, etc). That's like 200 years, whereas the 1980's spawned about ten different genres of metal!
Yes, but classical is the accepted term to cover all it's subgenre's. Just as metal covers Thrash, death metal, black metal, power metal etc etc.
+1
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In my ignorance, I'd have used the term "classical" to include any orchestral music including 20th century composers like Messiaen, Prokofiev, Stravinsky etc, so I've learned something from your post Muzzzz!
(Unless it had singing, then I'd call it "opera")
But ultimately, they're just labels, what do they matter.
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In my ignorance, I'd have used the term "classical" to include any orchestral music including 20th century composers like Messiaen, Prokofiev, Stravinsky etc, so I've learned something from your post Muzzzz!
(Unless it had singing, then I'd call it "opera")
But ultimately, they're just labels, what do they matter.
I'd still call Prokofiev, Shostakovitch, Debussy, etc, Classical music, even though it's in the modern period, and so would most classical music fans tbh.
Opera I'd also call classical music (Unless it was written by Phillip Glass :roll: )
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I'd still call Prokofiev, Shostakovitch, Debussy, etc, Classical music, even though it's in the modern period, and so would most classical music fans tbh.
Opera I'd also call classical music (Unless it was written by Phillip Glass :roll: )
Indeed. The important (yet rather semantic) difference is the distinction between "classical music" and "Classical music".
The former can be applied to orchestral and choral music from medieval lute music and Gregorian chants, to the works of John Cage or Gustav Holst (to name but two 20th century composers).
In contract, "Classical music" denotes a very small time frame, that which falls between Baroque music (Bach and Vivaldi) and Romatic music (Rachmaninov and Elgar). Hence Mozart is a true "Classical" composer, while all the others mentionned are "classical" composers.
Fo what it's worth, my favourite composers to listen to are Berlioz and Stravinsky, favourite to play (orchestrally) are Gershwin, Bernstein, Vivaldi and Bach.
*Rahnooo*
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^ +1 on Gershwin. That guy did a LOT for jazz and modern music.
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lately i have been broadening my musical horizon and listening to a pretty wide range of tunes for a 13 year old.
at the moment i am exploring more experimentle music (the mars volta, the flaming lips ect) and have come across musicions such as hendrix (which i never listened to before, but still liked his music), john mayer, porcupine tree, buckethead, john 5 and an amazing band called apocalypitica, who are 4 celloists and a drummer who play metal and classical, and even have an album of metelica covers where instead of singing they use the cello as the voice.
i've even got gnarls barkleys album (although i haven't listened to it yet)
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apocalypitica
Oh god.
Not them again :|
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Well - I hate metal, I can just about have a laugh with AC/DC and I get on OK with Led Zepplin, anything else is just wrong for me (which makes it hard to find things to play on the electric).
Generally I listen to acoustic guitar type folk (Jansch, Renbourn, Davey Graham) and Nu Folk (Vetiver, Espers that stuff), renaissance and baroque stuff, classical guitar, 60s rock and some of the newer Fat Possum raw blues like RL Burnside, T Model Ford or Seasick Sam.
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Seasick Sam.
Is he the guy with three strings on his guitar - one heavy gague on A and two lighter on B / high E - and plays slide?
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Seasick Sam.
Is he the guy with three strings on his guitar - one heavy gague on A and two lighter on B / high E - and plays slide?
Nope that Seasick Steve (sorry I'm being Mr Pedantic)
Him and Ray LaMontaine where the musical high point over the christmas period
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Seasick Sam.
Is he the guy with three strings on his guitar - one heavy gague on A and two lighter on B / high E - and plays slide?
Nope that Seasick Steve (sorry I'm being Mr Pedantic)
Him and Ray LaMontaine where the musical high point over the christmas period
Seasick Steve: thanks Kilby, now I know who he is I can acquire some of his tunes. Saw him on Jules Holland but forgot his name! And no worries about being pedantic: Je suis un software engineer, exactness is a science :)
+1 for Ray, what an amazing voice that man has.
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Seasick Steve: thanks Kilby, now I know who he is I can acquire some of his tunes. Saw him on Jules Holland but forgot his name! And no worries about being pedantic: Je suis un software engineer, exactness is a science :)
+1 for Ray, what an amazing voice that man has.
Well the Jools appearence is here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GvoqSx0ReI and theres several youtube clips of him playing Belfast late last year (I fecking missed him)
The problem I have with My LaMontaine is he sounds exactly like Tom Grey (out of Gomez) who you can't really hear so well on radio play, but on CD or live sounds amazing
If you havn't already done so get the album "Bring it On" for a perfect mixture of swampy blues, pop and stoner blues (Liquid Skin is a little more poppy but still an excellent purchase)
Hey I'm still sad enough to write Win32 apps in assembler, just to prove to a couple of developers that point & click programming is wasteful (sad isn't it)
Rob...
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I think there are only two genres of music - good music and bad music.
+1