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Title: VHII does Gilmour
Post by: hunter on April 14, 2007, 03:03:51 PM
This is a

VHII Bridge ->
PRS SE Singlecut ->
MI Audio Crunch Box ->
RMC3 Wah ->
Bogner Shiva ->
Lexicon MX200 ->
Shure SM57 ->
Logic Pro

VHII sounds good in any situation, but actually I think it should be called "Sir David" as it always makes me wanna play Floyd ...
Title: VHII does Gilmour
Post by: sgmypod on April 14, 2007, 03:21:41 PM
sweet...what backing track U useing or is it all you
Title: VHII does Gilmour
Post by: Kilby on April 14, 2007, 03:57:42 PM
I think the fact that you ran out of backing track at the end shows how much you where enjoying yourself :)

I really enjoyrd it, though I wouldn't have associated the VH II with Gilmouresque tones

Going slightly off topic, Ive been looking at buying a Wah and everybody seems to suggest RMC is about the best however which one.

My preferred wah tones are 60s vintage, hendrix, cream & early floyd era, but I din't like the Dunlop wahs (sounded very nasal)

It's looking like I either want a RMC or Vox any thoughts

Rob...
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Post by: Bird on April 14, 2007, 04:15:11 PM
That sounds great, love it  :D  Glad I bought the VH2's   :wink:
Title: VHII does Gilmour
Post by: hunter on April 14, 2007, 04:19:45 PM
Quote from: Kilby
Ive been looking at buying a Wah and everybody seems to suggest RMC is about the best however which one.

My preferred wah tones are 60s vintage, hendrix, cream & early floyd era, but I din't like the Dunlop wahs (sounded very nasal)
Rob...


Hey there, I would go and try RMC Picture Wah, Wizard Wah and RMC3 as well as a Fulltone Clyde and Clyde Deluxe.

These are all awesome Wahs. The RMC3 has the great advantage of internal trim pots which can be used to drastically tweak the wah to your own taste. The Fulltones are crazy expensive, but well, probably one proper wah for a lifetime should be sufficient.

I had Vox 847, didn't do the trick for me, especially as the bypass sucked tone and the level dropped when I switched it on.
Title: VHII does Gilmour
Post by: _tom_ on April 14, 2007, 04:33:11 PM
First off hunter, that clip sounded awesome as usual! I've been wanting to learn those solos for a while now, but I think I've had enough of guitar this afternoon - been learning the last solo in Sweet Child O Mine for the cover band and my fingertips are in so much pain :lol:

Quote from: Kilby
I think the fact that you ran out of backing track at the end shows how much you where enjoying yourself :)

I really enjoyrd it, though I wouldn't have associated the VH II with Gilmouresque tones

Going slightly off topic, Ive been looking at buying a Wah and everybody seems to suggest RMC is about the best however which one.

My preferred wah tones are 60s vintage, hendrix, cream & early floyd era, but I din't like the Dunlop wahs (sounded very nasal)

It's looking like I either want a RMC or Vox any thoughts

Rob...


TBH I dont think you can go wrong with a Vox.. I got mine off ebay a while ago for £56 and was allready true bypass modded. I plan on doing some other mods to it as they seem really easy to do - http://homepage.ntlworld.com/s.castledine/greenfuz/wah.html

A clip that I did here shows the Vox wah in the solo, with no mods other than true bypass (excuse the cr@p playing) http://www.soundclick.com/bands/songInfo.cfm?bandID=493678&songID=5030851
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Post by: 808 on April 14, 2007, 06:19:17 PM
Sounds great Hunter!
Title: VHII does Gilmour
Post by: Kilby on April 14, 2007, 07:04:06 PM
Quote from: hunter
These are all awesome Wahs. The RMC3 has the great advantage of internal trim pots which can be used to drastically tweak the wah to your own taste. The Fulltones are crazy expensive, but well, probably one proper wah for a lifetime should be sufficient.

I had Vox 847, didn't do the trick for me, especially as the bypass sucked tone and the level dropped when I switched it on.


The RMC3 is the one that looks like the logical choice as it will (apparently) do everything the rest ofthe range does, however te UK distributers seem to be a little brain damaged :(

Also theres nowhere to try it out in advance (that I have found).

I was also looking at the Vox V848, but havn't seen one in stock.

I'm also very happy to mod pedals (having done enough sctatch builds in the past)

Thanks for the info, and keep up supplying us with great examples.
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Post by: Canadian Steve on April 14, 2007, 07:33:07 PM
Great clips Hunter, how much are the PRS SEs?

Quote from: Kilby
My preferred wah tones are 60s vintage, hendrix, cream & early floyd era, but I din't like the Dunlop wahs (sounded very nasal)

It's looking like I either want a RMC or Vox any thoughts

Rob...


Hey Kilby, I've been through about 4 or 5 wahs including Boss, Dunlop, etc. looking for the tones your describing as well.  I just sold my Teese/RMC WOF wah a couple of weeks ago and bought a Teese/RMC Picture wah, which should be arriving this week.  If your looking to get a new wah, I would highly recommend Teese/RMC.
Title: VHII does Gilmour
Post by: 99_not_out on April 14, 2007, 09:46:02 PM
That is my favourite floyd song, and Gilmour is one of my fave guitarists. Both done justice to there Hunter :) Would never have thought a humbucking LP body could give such a Gilmour-esque sound (although I think Gilmour has used a LP on a few tracks?)

Was thinking about getting a PRS Singlecut (after your recommendation I think) ... now VHII's are in the frame as well!
Title: VHII does Gilmour
Post by: indysmith on April 14, 2007, 09:49:36 PM
hunter your clips always sound SO good - i love that bogner of yours 8)
...and your fingers
Title: VHII does Gilmour
Post by: Kilby on April 14, 2007, 10:11:37 PM
Quote from: 99_not_out
That is my favourite floyd song, and Gilmour is one of my fave guitarists. Both done justice to there Hunter :) Would never have thought a humbucking LP body could give such a Gilmour-esque sound (although I think Gilmour has used a LP on a few tracks?)

Was thinking about getting a PRS Singlecut (after your recommendation I think) ... now VHII's are in the frame as well!


Plus the Bogner isn't exactly what you would associate Gilmour with either.

He used a P90 equipped LP for the 2nd solo on another brick (I think).

Hey Steve was it a UK sourced RMC ?
Title: VHII does Gilmour
Post by: hunter on April 14, 2007, 11:27:42 PM
Quote from: 99_not_out
That is my favourite floyd song, and Gilmour is one of my fave guitarists. Both done justice to there Hunter :) Would never have thought a humbucking LP body could give such a Gilmour-esque sound (although I think Gilmour has used a LP on a few tracks?)

Was thinking about getting a PRS Singlecut (after your recommendation I think) ... now VHII's are in the frame as well!


Thanks a lot for the flowers:)

In the end, it's a highly distorted and processed tone, which makes the difference between HB and SC almost a indistinguishable - most important is to have enough transparency/highs, and those come in spades from BKPs/VHIIs, which is what makes them so versatile.

Re the Singlecut - do you consider getting the real deal / US built? Their price is just crazy but I would die to have a trem version ... they are just so stylish and tasty ...
Title: VHII does Gilmour
Post by: CJ on April 15, 2007, 02:40:10 AM
if i could make a suggestion... PLEASE do a cover of funkadelic's maggot brain!!! i know you were going for gilmour, but with that wah you completely nailed their tone.
Title: VHII does Gilmour
Post by: hunter on April 15, 2007, 07:57:46 AM
Hmm, don't know the funkadelic one but will look into it.

Here is another clip showing the RMC Wah and how it sounds with a SoulBender Fuzz:

http://www.thegutbusters.com/temp/fuzz.mp3

Title: VHII does Gilmour
Post by: TONY on April 15, 2007, 10:21:38 AM
Check out the HBE medicene bawl wah. amazing vintage tones and can do the modern wah sound as well, really responsive and rich sounding and TRUE bypass.
Title: VHII does Gilmour
Post by: Twinfan on April 15, 2007, 10:26:57 AM
The Gilmour stuff sounds great Hunter.  You've got his style down really well too.
Title: VHII does Gilmour
Post by: CJ on April 15, 2007, 07:43:55 PM
Quote from: hunter
Hmm, don't know the funkadelic one but will look into it.


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definitely download it or something. wait a minute, here's a live version of it.
i consider it one of the best solos of all time, yet no ones heard it.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Z4YsGIIx-XQ
Title: VHII does Gilmour
Post by: 99_not_out on April 16, 2007, 08:55:17 AM
Quote from: hunter
Re the Singlecut - do you consider getting the real deal / US built? Their price is just crazy but I would die to have a trem version ... they are just so stylish and tasty ...


I wish ... if I could hide the credit card bill, I would own:

    http://www.prsguitars.com/singlecuttremsatin/index.html

but will prbly get:

    http://www.prsguitars.com/sesinglecut/index.html

I am however currently torn between the PRS (would add mule / stormy monday neck) and an Epiphone explorer Goth (resulting in Miracle Man and Cold sweat neck). Decisions!
Title: VHII does Gilmour
Post by: hunter on April 16, 2007, 05:42:06 PM
yeah man, they make me wet everytime I see one, I would probably kill for one of these:

(http://www.prsguitars.com/singlecuttrem/img/singlecuttrem_mctobacco.jpg)
Title: VHII does Gilmour
Post by: noodleplugerine on April 16, 2007, 06:16:39 PM
Quote from: 99_not_out
Quote from: hunter
Re the Singlecut - do you consider getting the real deal / US built? Their price is just crazy but I would die to have a trem version ... they are just so stylish and tasty ...


I wish ... if I could hide the credit card bill, I would own:

    http://www.prsguitars.com/singlecuttremsatin/index.html

but will prbly get:

    http://www.prsguitars.com/sesinglecut/index.html

I am however currently torn between the PRS (would add mule / stormy monday neck) and an Epiphone explorer Goth (resulting in Miracle Man and Cold sweat neck). Decisions!


In comparison the SE looks so bad - Which is a shame cos it's such a good guitar.

But the beautiful carved top and the recessed 3way on the Singlecut is just beautiful.
Title: VHII does Gilmour
Post by: Philly Q on April 16, 2007, 06:21:33 PM
Quote from: 99_not_out
I am however currently torn between the PRS (would add mule / stormy monday neck) and an Epiphone explorer Goth (resulting in Miracle Man and Cold sweat neck). Decisions!

Those are two very different guitars (and sets of pickups)!  

I think you will have to buy both...
Title: VHII does Gilmour
Post by: indysmith on April 16, 2007, 06:53:06 PM
When PRS start making singlecuts with bound necks i might be tempted...
Title: VHII does Gilmour
Post by: hunter on April 16, 2007, 06:57:34 PM
Quote from: indysmith
When PRS start making singlecuts with bound necks i might be tempted...


I don't like bound necks so much, they make refret really expensive and I like the corner of a worn in unbound neck. Ever played a James Tyler? Do it and you'll never again ask for neck binding  :wink:
Title: VHII does Gilmour
Post by: indysmith on April 16, 2007, 07:03:26 PM
it just doesnt feel right to me playing a singlecut guitar with no neck binding. it's stupid i know; i don't mind no neck binding at all on the double cut PRS designs, but a lespaul-alike, minus binding looks cheap...

I really want a double cut PRS with a bolt-on one piece maple neck and korina body, maple top and a HSS configuration. O - and finished in satin, with holy divers. Maybe one day i'll get Feline to make me something like that.
Title: VHII does Gilmour
Post by: 99_not_out on April 16, 2007, 08:08:28 PM
Quote from: Philly Q
Those are two very different guitars (and sets of pickups)!  

I think you will have to buy both...

Yeah, I need to decide what the next guitar is exactly for ... I was set on the PRS for low gain / classic rock. But then I saw the Goth Explorer in a shop and a new plan suddenly formed ... given I've already got an SG loaded with warpigs, the PRS would make sense but  .... damn, I think I will have to buy both ...  :?
Title: VHII does Gilmour
Post by: CJ on April 17, 2007, 02:49:48 AM
hunter, did you watch that youtube video i posted?
Title: VHII does Gilmour
Post by: hunter on April 17, 2007, 05:52:07 AM
Quote from: callme.nasty
hunter, did you watch that youtube video i posted?


Yeah, it would have to be less gain and more volume I think. Re the Wah I might have to tweak it for a bitmo mid honk and less treble spike, then it could get there.
Title: VHII does Gilmour
Post by: CJ on April 17, 2007, 08:39:06 PM
Quote from: hunter
Quote from: callme.nasty
hunter, did you watch that youtube video i posted?


Yeah, it would have to be less gain and more volume I think. Re the Wah I might have to tweak it for a bitmo mid honk and less treble spike, then it could get there.


yeah. the version i have of it sounded just like your tone. the live sounds a bit different.
Title: VHII does Gilmour
Post by: opprobrium_9 on July 08, 2007, 03:50:06 AM
not to bring back an old topic, but i was searching through the players forum and i stumbled upon this - behold the ecstasy!  I will not shower you with accolades again Hunter, but wow, i love it.  Also, i am not so big on floyd - what song is this?  I quite like it :)
Title: VHII does Gilmour
Post by: samoth2 on July 08, 2007, 10:30:55 AM
Comfortably Numb :p
Title: VHII does Gilmour
Post by: WITH FULL DISTORTION on July 08, 2007, 03:49:11 PM
Top Class Stuff!
Title: VHII does Gilmour
Post by: JamesHealey on July 09, 2007, 09:22:14 AM
Amazing tone Hunter..

Diezel :shock:  Shiva
Title: VHII does Gilmour
Post by: Daemon Barbeque on July 09, 2007, 10:29:40 PM
this is the best tone i ever heard from your clips dude!
You play amazing ,the tones are lovely!And the Einstein sounds really organic!
Title: VHII does Gilmour
Post by: hunter on July 09, 2007, 11:21:52 PM
Quote from: Daemon Barbeque
this is the best tone i ever heard from your clips dude!
You play amazing ,the tones are lovely!And the Einstein sounds really organic!


Thanks a lot DB, just one little detail, this clip not Eini is but Shiva  :P
Title: VHII does Gilmour
Post by: Daemon Barbeque on July 11, 2007, 02:15:35 AM
Wow!.So the "opponent" is as great as the Einstein ,altough ,i think the Einstein is the newcomer! The competition between Reinhold and Peter is just amazing :D
Anyways ,it sounds awesome ,and i listened to it more than once!:D