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At The Back => Time Out => Topic started by: Antag on April 27, 2007, 08:26:57 PM
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With my wife's words ringing in my ears ("if you bring another guitar home I shall divorce you!!"), I went to the London Guitar show today.
Anyone who is in range of London, hasn't gone, & has either tomorrow or Sunday free needs to give serious thought to going. It's easy to find, you can buy tickets on the door (a mere £13) & you will enjoy it.
I met Davey, TwilightOdyssey, & Afghan Dave at the Felineguitars & BKP stands - it was nice to talk to you all, even though I couldn't hear a word you said over the racket from the PRS stand next door :) (they must've got special permission to make noise, because it was LOUD)
Sadly, I didn't get a chance to say hello to Tim :( - whenever I passed he was busy or the stand was really crowded. I did try out a Crawler set in his 70s LP custom though (see Gallery forum) - very nice :)
Anyway, the highlights of the day:
LOL of the day:
All the children queuing up to say hi to Matt Heafy from Trivium on the Dean stand :lol:
Tryout of the day:
Hughes & Kettner Triamp MKII jumps right to the top of my "to buy" list :D I played a Mk1 Triamp some years back & liked it, but the MkII is an awesome piece of kit. I got to play it quite loud & was really impressed by it - 6 really good useable sounds, the highlight of which was an absolutely blistering lead sound :twisted: Sadly my demo was cut short by them getting a warning for excessive volume (not me, I might add - some bloke trying out a Switchblade combo generated the most ear-slitting prolonged microphonic feedback I've ever heard :roll:)
Drool of the day: Tough one this, there were so many...
Feline's marine-blue korina Lion (I've seen this guitar slowly take shape on my several visits to Feline, but today was the first time I've seen it with paint on) - if someone doesn't snap it up at the ridiculously low £1400 show price, I'll be staggered (actually, I might be on my way to Croydon with my credit card... :))
An unbelievable Taylor W65C Jumbo 12-string on the Taylor stand in the "acoustic café" :dribble:
Dean ML in blue burst with fixed bridge. The £2300 price tag was a little rich for my blood though...
The skinny blonde chick with very little clothes adorning the Ashton(?) stand - no idea who they are or what their products were...
Closest-I-came-to-getting-out-my-credit-card of the day: a 3-way tie...
A gorgeous Les Paul std on the Peter Cooks stand (50s neck, black cherry). What stopped me wasn't the thought of bringing it home, but remembering that I already have 3 Les Pauls - 4 would be just excessive :)
Taylor DN8 for a mere £1350 (they're usually >1800) on the Taylor stand
Raimundo 630 on the Classical Guitar Co stand - I've been thinking about getting a nylon strung guitar for a while - this spruce top/maple back & sides cutaway electro model caught my attention & was really nice to play.
Anyway, a nice day out & a surprising display of self-restraint (see above) from me. I will DEFINITELY be going next year...
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man, if i were on the mainland at all, i'd be there so quick it's not even funny...
sounds awesome... nice reviews too.
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I have one complaint... It took me nearly 4 hours to get there! And half the time IT WAS VERY HARD TO TALK TO ANYBODY because it was so loud... Got to speak to the folk at Morgan Custom Guitars, but not BKP :(
Didn't see any SG3 faded :( So didn't get to try one. :(
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i ignored this show because i didnt have time to make anything for it :(
I have had a few commissions on the go and the real day job has been getting in the way of my secondary income luthiery habbit.
Its a shame because i only sent 1 guitar last year and it sold for the asking price and got loads of interest. I sent 5 to Music Live in novemeber but it didnt look like anyone was buying anything - and i dont just mean my guitars - all the stands still looked full at the end of the weekend.
I do have a through neck fanned fret mahogany and redwood les paul nearly done that i would have loved to send to LGS but the regular paying jobs can be a bitch sometimes.
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Drool of the day: Tough one this, there were so many...
Feline's marine-blue korina Lion (I've seen this guitar slowly take shape on my several visits to Feline, but today was the first time I've seen it with paint on) - if someone doesn't snap it up at the ridiculously low £1400 show price, I'll be staggered (actually, I might be on my way to Croydon with my credit card... :))
An unbelievable Taylor W65C Jumbo 12-string on the Taylor stand in the "acoustic café" :dribble:
Dean ML in blue burst with fixed bridge. The £2300 price tag was a little rich for my blood though...
The skinny blonde chick with very little clothes adorning the Ashton(?) stand - no idea who they are or what their products were...
Just remembered a couple of other contenders for Drool of the day:
PRS Custom 24 Artist pack in Blue Matteo, 10-top quilt, wide/thin neck, 3-way toggle switch - my perfect PRS, both aesthetically & spec-wise :)
Patrick Eggle acoustics - including a particularly drop dead gorgeous Flame Koa mini-jumbo kinda shape.
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Drool of the day - Black Machine 6 string with a snake wood neck.
Diezel Herbert into a 4x12 of K-100s - $%&#ING AMAZING.
LOL of the day - The queue for the Gibson tourbus - LET'S GO SEE 100 DIFFERENT COLOURED LES PAULS!
2nd lol of the day - The fact that people paying at the door had a shorter queue than the people who had pre-ordered their tickets.
Worst guitar of the day - £3000+ Dean Razorback which has got to be one of the worst guitars I've played in a long time - It was absolutely $%&#ing shite. NOTHING was good about it other than the fancy paintjob - And I played a £600 Dean rebel razorback later on which outplayed it by a MILE.
PS: The people at the Dean stand are seriously rude and idiotic - "You're aware that's a £3000 guitar, right?"
My reply: "You're aware it's nobody in their right mind would buy such a piece of cr@p, right?"
Biggest Regret - Buying a ticket and then being handed an AAA pass -.-
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Personally I didnt think it was any way as good as the shows of the last 3 or so years I've been at when it was at Wembley.
But, that could be because I was totally not going on a guitar hunt, I was on a amp hunt. Just seemed to me that although there was some very nice kit there, at previous shows, there were more stalls where more bargains could be found at "LGS prices" - but like I said, this year, I didnt even look at a single guitar and no doubt if you're on the look out for a guitar, MY GOD - THERE WERE 1000's to choose from - as amps went, I tried nearly every brand that was there and still came home empty handed, and a little annoyed at the fact that when I said...
"I really like 6L6 valve tones" - the amount of blank looks I got from the 17 year old "assistants" who didnt even seem to know what a valve amp was let alone valve types and characteristics.
Any rant over - was good to meet some BKP satff and thank them for making great pups. My amp hunt continues...
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I've only just got back from LGS. Swansea, it turns out, is quite some way from London, especially when the trains are being a bit, well, special.
I had a good time, got to see some beautiful gear the likes of which never make it this far into Wales, if at all. Didn't really get anywhere near the BKP stand, as it seemed to be constantly rammed. Pity, because I quite fancied trying out a set of Irish Tours, as well as saying hello to the guys.
Drool of the day as far as I'm concerned was every guitar on the Nathan Shepherd Guitars stand - all of them were works of complete art. Mr Shepherd is also a really nice bloke who was happy to chat for a good 15 minutes even though I told him I couldn't afford to buy anything. Quite a few great looking guitars on the Feline stand too, as well as a stunning koa top Framus superstrat on the Framus/Warwick stand. Oh, and the koa Patrick Eggle acoustic Antag mentioned was indeed fantastic.
On the downside, the noise drove me f@*king nuts after about 2 hours, and I missed Johnny Hiland playing on the PRS stand. Nearly bought a white US Standard Strat from Guitar Village for £450, but backed out when, on closer inspection it turned out to be second-hand with a badly cut neck pocket and some seriously shonky fretwork. Shame, I thought I had a bargain there, and a prime candidate for a set of Irish Tours.
All in, a bloody good day, just wish London wasn't so far!
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Ashton is friggin' shitee. They attempt to make EVERYTHING to do with music but fail miserably on most counts. Even for the 'budget' niche market on which they seem to specialise in. Quite well known in Australia though.
Anyone go to the Vai Masterclass?
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Drool of the day:
Feline's marine-blue korina Lion (I've seen this guitar slowly take shape on my several visits to Feline, but today was the first time I've seen it with paint on) - if someone doesn't snap it up at the ridiculously low £1400 show price, I'll be staggered (actually, I might be on my way to Croydon with my credit card... :))
I need to see a pic of this guitar! I hope someone took one before it sold.
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Anyone go to the Vai Masterclass?
Me - It sucked, all he did was bullshitee for a bit, answer some lame questions where he could input things like "A song is part of yourself" and then widdle for 3 mins.
Stuff like "I'd never put my name on any of my guitars, I want people to buy guitars because they're good - not because they have my name on it"
Although the cheap Jem has his name on the 24th fret, doesn't it?
Anyway - it wasn't worth the extra £5 or whatever it was.
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Drool of the day:
Feline's marine-blue korina Lion (I've seen this guitar slowly take shape on my several visits to Feline, but today was the first time I've seen it with paint on) - if someone doesn't snap it up at the ridiculously low £1400 show price, I'll be staggered (actually, I might be on my way to Croydon with my credit card... :))
I need to see a pic of this guitar! I hope someone took one before it sold.
Feline's webpage only has a picture of it "in progress", but I'm sure he took pics of the finished article before/during the show. Actually, I think he snapped a pic of me playing it (he probably won't use that one though - I doubt you could find anyone who looks less like a rocker than me :))
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Yeah, I've seen the "in progress" pic, but I really want to see the finish and the abalone inlays. It sounds awesome.
And I expect I look less like a rocker than you do! :wink:
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LOL of the day - Anyone go to the steve vai lesson at 2:30 some little kid asked steve if he would like to have a signiture guitar one day. LOL Vai was holding his Ibanez JEM. Plus i got my mate to shout "how often do you change your G string" at Vai dunno if he heard but very funny.
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LOL of the day - Anyone go to the steve vai lesson at 2:30 some little kid asked steve if he would like to have a signiture guitar one day. LOL Vai was holding his Ibanez JEM. Plus i got my mate to shout "how often do you change your G string" at Vai dunno if he heard but very funny.
I heard that!!!
I laughed my head off and told me mate :D
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We went a bit more metal this year
Some nice shapes here
More pix of the new guitars once I get some sleep
Just want to say a HUGE thank-you to Afghan Dave, Davey, my mate Nick & Ms Feline who helped all weekend (ok - with my lady it was a mix of flirting and bossing people about....a natural dominatrix i tell ya!)
Was a good show- hope everyone enjoyed themselves
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v662/felineguitars/LGS%2006/lgs07-guitars.jpg)
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Anyone know where there's any pictures online anywhere of the stands at the LGS this year ?
I'm particularly interested to see some pics of the BLACKMACHINE stand if anyone has some please (pretty please :wink: ).
When they have the Musikmesse or NAMM shows there's pictures everywhere on the internet ususally the same day as the show opens.
I was gonna' take a trip up this year but it doesn't sound like too many people were overly impressed on the whole so maybe i did myself a favour.
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I'm particularly interested to see some pics of the BLACKMACHINE stand if anyone has some please (pretty please :wink: ).
favour.
I'll sum it up.
About 5 Diezel Herberts, 1 Diezel Einstein, and 1-2 Diezel VH4s.
1 Black Machine 8 string spalted.
3 Blackmachine 6 strings, one with flame inlays, and one with a beautiful snake skin neck, can't remember the third.
There was some other stuff but I can't remember. :roll:
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Some gorgeous looking guitars on display Jonathan!
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Some gorgeous looking guitars on display Jonathan!
+1, although I don't recall seeing that black FV - was it a late arrival or had you sold it before I got to your stand?
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Some gorgeous looking guitars on display Jonathan!
+1, although I don't recall seeing that black FV - was it a late arrival or had you sold it before I got to your stand?
Late arrival
We only got it finished on friday and Chris (who works with me ) rushed it up to the show.
We only just finished the Turquoise LP as we were loading the van for the show as well
Was all a bit frantic at the end but we got them done!!!
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Was it the mahogany V that's been taking shape in your workshop over the last few months? What happened to the explorer that you were building next to it? (I'm assuming the one at the show was the none-more-black one you'd already finished?)
The turquoise/marine korina Lion really is an awesome guitar - I had a very long close look & played it for quite a while. It didn't look rushed at all, the finish was flawless. Did anyone buy it? :)
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I'm loving the Korina V. Beautiful and classy 8)
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here’s a couple of my highs and lows
Highs
Marshall Vintage Modern, sounded very sweet in the demo room but damm those guys were loud. I am going to be checking one out pretty soon I think. Had a quick chat to the guy doing the demo, he seemed pretty down to earth
Pertucci JP6. I am in the process of selling my Axis because the neck profile just doesn’t suit me, I am a bit gutted because I love everything else about it. Anyway, had the chance to play the JP6, wow, the neck is fantastic, trem is good. I am in the process of buying one. They do seem a bit over priced to me though.
Orange Rockerverb 100 head. Went to try out the tiny terror, had a go with the Thunder head as well but the Rockerverb was the one that really stood out, very, very nice
Lows
Blackmachine – A few times I have nearly order one of these but held back, I am glad I did, the one I played felt stiff, the action was very high and it just felt wrong.
Headstock distribution – I am a big Ibanez fan, I know what they look like guys, let my play them for gods sakes. Even the guys on the PRS stand let me have a go with 4 or 5 with no fuss (although I am not impressed with them either).
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Was it the mahogany V that's been taking shape in your workshop over the last few months? What happened to the explorer that you were building next to it? (I'm assuming the one at the show was the none-more-black one you'd already finished?)
The turquoise/marine korina Lion really is an awesome guitar - I had a very long close look & played it for quite a while. It didn't look rushed at all, the finish was flawless. Did anyone buy it? :)
Yes it was the one that has been on the "On The Bench" page for while
As was the Explorer and Korina Lion.
The Explorer was the None More Black one that you can see on the satnd
I just made myself very busy in the last month making the new guitars
The important making and setting up wasn't rushed at all - was just a few long days finishing stuff off
Tim had been busy making pickups for us and the only delay was getting the black no screw-hole covers made for the look we wanted
But as ever Tim came up trumps and we got our pickups
I had played the Korina Lion with just one pickup in waiting on the other to arrive and Chris ended up installng it while I loaded the van
Antag - you are right about the Korina lion - our paint guys really did a great job as ever - even I was gobsmaked when i saw it for the first time - especially once all the chrome bits went on.
Some of the guys who played the Blonde Explorer were amazed at how much they loved it - was a real winner !
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My favourites were:
Organic 'Mono' Singlecut prototype, easily my guitar of the show.
Two Rock Head
Fuchs Overdrive Supreme combo
Briggs Avatar (a mate of mine liked it so much he bought it!)
Matamp Little Rock
Gripes... the show was disorganised, not up to the standard of Wembley in the last couple of years.
I got to hear the Marshall Vintage Modern at the Newcastle Guitar Show and I have to admit, Marshall have hit the nail on the head with this amp, it's one very sweet sounding amp. Seriously thinking about getting one to use until my Bogner arrives in September.
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I was impressed with the Vintage Modern I tried in my local shop. They've got a 50w and 100w head in at the moment.
Very, very tempted.
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LOVED the new Laney amps ..
guitars. my charvel slays them all. didnt like any as much, apart of the neck on two jonathans guitars.
this is the one that looked the best though:
(http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/1359/p4270004jf8.th.jpg) (http://img259.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p4270004jf8.jpg)
i got a (not so good) picture of the painkiller V (after which i'm tailoring MY V, that i am working on with jonathan :D )
(http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/623/p4270010cx3.th.jpg) (http://img339.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p4270010cx3.jpg)
got a cr@pload of other pictures (around 500ish, between me and ben) but i have to sort them out first
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Is that Painkiller V going for sale?
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Is that Painkiller V going for sale?
Yes - up for sale (about £1500)
features 2 new painkillers with double row of slug polepieces under a black no -holes cover
Scratchplate is bronze smoke mirror, as is the trusss rod cover
Machineheads are sperzel
Jack socket is on inside of the top fin like on a Jackson RR or King V
No more tripping over leads!
Sounds awesome through a Marshall - really tough sounding
Those painkillers are great
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Is that Painkiller V going for sale?
Yes - up for sale (about £1500)
features 2 new painkillers with double row of slug polepieces under a black no -holes cover
Scratchplate is bronze smoke mirror, as is the trusss rod cover
Machineheads are sperzel
Jack socket is on inside of the top fin like on a Jackson RR or King V
No more tripping over leads!
Sounds awesome through a Marshall - really tough sounding
Those painkillers are great
This time next year I'm finally done this degree... I'll be coming to see you :wink:
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OK
Just done a couple of pix of the turquoise Korina Lion
Currently loaded with BKP Rebel yells but am tempted to seek something with a warmer top end as the guitar can be a little bright due to the super hard ebony fingerboard (seriously it was like steel to work with - so damn hard)
Maybe some Mules or VH2s
Hope you like....
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v662/felineguitars/CUSTOM%20BUILT/Korina-Lion-web.jpg)
Fulll length shot
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v662/felineguitars/CUSTOM%20BUILT/Korina-Lion-HEADSTOCK-web.jpg)
Headstock shot
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v662/felineguitars/CUSTOM%20BUILT/Korina-Lion-NECKJOINT-web.jpg)
All access heel - body/neck joint
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jesus that's the sexiest thing i've ever seen. how much for one of those?
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Prices on archtops start at about £1850
This one would be about £2000
Nice inlays and binding
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v662/felineguitars/CUSTOM%20BUILT/Korina-Lion--inlay-web.jpg)
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Oooh, that Lion's a beauty! :o
The neck joint is a wonder to behold.
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Well been experimenting with pickups in the Korina Lion
Took out the Rebel Yells and popped a set of VH2s in there
2 pleasant surprises!!
1) The tone is less bright and is now a lot more versatile
2) the VH2s were zebra coil ones , and the guitar looks even better with that combination (as if this guitar could get any better)
Here she is - i like the way the cream coil tones in with the ivory binding
The abalone topped knobs look nice too!
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v662/felineguitars/CUSTOM%20BUILT/korina-lion-web-1.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v662/felineguitars/CUSTOM%20BUILT/thats-my-knob-that-is.jpg)
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Gorgeous!
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Feline, that is one beautiful guitar, I would love to play it!!!
I agree with you. I like it more with the Zebra pups!
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Beauty :!: :!: :!:
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Mrs 38th, fetch the smelling salts.
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That guitar is pure sex!
How did you come up with that neck joint? It's very original and not like any that i have ever seen!
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Well been experimenting with pickups in the Korina Lion
Took out the Rebel Yells and popped a set of VH2s in there
2 pleasant surprises!!
1) The tone is less bright and is now a lot more versatile
2) the VH2s were zebra coil ones , and the guitar looks even better with that combination (as if this guitar could get any better)
Here she is - i like the way the cream coil tones in with the ivory binding
The abalone topped knobs look nice too!
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v662/felineguitars/CUSTOM%20BUILT/korina-lion-web-1.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v662/felineguitars/CUSTOM%20BUILT/thats-my-knob-that-is.jpg)
I played that futhamucker with RY's and it was, I'd love to play it with VHII's. In fact, if I wasn't going to put an order in for a Vee on payday(expect a phone call and some money on the 25th Mr Law) , I'd buy that!
Andy!
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That guitar is pure sex!
How did you come up with that neck joint? It's very original and not like any that i have ever seen!
I think the Aria PE series have the same joint if I rremember correctly.
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That guitar is pure sex!
How did you come up with that neck joint? It's very original and not like any that i have ever seen!
I think the Aria PE series have the same joint if I rremember correctly.
You are quite correct there Mr Ninja
The Aria PE was years ahead in a lot of ways
I have fond memories of some of that series
It's one of the reasons that I recommend it to players looking for a Les paul copy on a budget
And it's neck joint certainly inspired my design ideas for my own versions
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my bad :lol:
Well it still looks awesome!
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That guitar is pure sex!
How did you come up with that neck joint? It's very original and not like any that i have ever seen!
I think the Aria PE series have the same joint if I rremember correctly.
You are quite correct there Mr Ninja
The Aria PE was years ahead in a lot of ways
I have fond memories of some of that series
It's one of the reasons that I recommend it to players looking for a Les paul copy on a budget
And it's neck joint certainly inspired my design ideas for my own versions
They are very nice guitars, i've got an original (80's i've been told) PE-R60, bought it about a year ago, it plays and sounds amaizng considering that i paid under £200 for it. Despite the neck joint being almost the same, yours looks much neater than my Aria Pro 2.
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i'm nearly done with my scribling of the specs for my V and i'll shoot you a PM one of these days.. the only thing that i am unsure about is the inlay(s) .. i dont know what would go well with the spider-web pickups :S
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i'm nearly done with my scribling of the specs for my V and i'll shoot you a PM one of these days.. the only thing that i am unsure about is the inlay(s) .. i dont know what would go well with the spider-web pickups :S
Spiders? :lol:
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naw, too intricate, which in turn makes it expencive.
i was thinking of an hourglass on the 12th fret, like the black widow one
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naw, too intricate, which in turn makes it expencive.
That makes me idea useless then - I was gonna say sharkfin inlay-shaped spider webs, then again that'd maybe make the guitar have too much web on it :lol:
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my bad :lol:
Well it still looks awesome!
Joe - you are quite right to say that it isn't something that you see much of in guitars these days.
In some ways there are too many copies that just slavishly recreate what was done 50+ years ago, without looking to see what can be updated and improved upon.
What I do with my guitars is kind of an "updated classic " concept - allowing players to chose to mix classic looks with their preferred features and technical specs. We are also happy to build completely new designs as well.
I tend to adopt all the cool and innovative ideas that I see and like when building for myself.
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What spec you going for in your Vee Davey?
I'm putting in my order soon and going for something basic and organic - get the blowtorch out J-Man!
Andy!
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i was thinking of an hourglass on the 12th fret, like the black widow one
I thought about the black widow hourglass shape
Lita Ford had that on her black Warlock guitar
Looked good!
(http://www.80srockphotos.com/fcWebApp/product_images/LitaFord2_200x.jpg)
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yea, something like that :D
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johny, you'z got a PMz