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At The Back => Time Out => Topic started by: Transcend on May 08, 2007, 11:16:32 PM
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My friend gave me a copy that he had "aquired"
and i must say it is good but i just feel liek theres something lacking (probably marty friedman & chris poland)
all of drovers solos sound quite similar
and the song writing on whole is very repetitive and cheesy
all about the middle east conflict and bush :x
So basically all im saying is i thought it would be better with the amount of time spent on it
The guitar sound and overall mixing is amazing though.
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Just so long as it's better than The World Needs A Hero.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the focus of Mustaine's bile on this album was the United Nations, not Bush? United Abominations and all that? And the fact that I read an interview where he talks about being proud to have met the President and shaken his hand? Meh, I don't know.
But yes, I was pretty disappointed as well. Only a few good songs, and they're the ones that were released before the album actually came out.
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Only a few good songs, and they're the ones that were released before the album actually came out.
i forgot to add that part.
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i'm still looking forward to it. however "not so good" it might be, it'll still be head and shoulders above pretty much any new metal that has been released recently.
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i'm still looking forward to it. however "not so good" it might be, it'll still be head and shoulders above pretty much any new metal that has been released recently.
I aren saying its terrible, it is a good solid album...its just i expected more.
IMHO TSHF wwas much better.
then again i believe this album will grow on me more once i have paid for a legit version.
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From the songs i have heard so far (5) it's already better than TSHF. Didn't think much of that album, this one sounds much better though.
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From the songs i have heard so far (5) it's already better than TSHF. Didn't think much of that album, this one sounds much better though.
yes hopefully my pc will be stable tonight thanks to the changes,
so i will be able to finish those uploads for you.
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Don't worry i've got it now, and it's great!
Though you could still send that Testament one :D
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i'm still looking forward to it. however "not so good" it might be, it'll still be head and shoulders above pretty much any new metal that has been released recently.
Eeeh... I would dispute that, I've heard some incredibly good new metal recently which has blown United Abominations out of the water. Although, to be fair, a lot of it resides more in the death/black metal realm than the straightforward metal realm. Nevertheless- it feels like Megadeth's time has passed, since United Abominations is not a return to form, in my opinion.
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nor will Tallica's new album.
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nor will Tallica's new album.
ha this is where i get flamed
i actually prefer st anger to united abominations and i think the next tallica album will be better than UA
i know UA is technically better but i just prefer the songs on st anger
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i know UA is technically better but i just prefer the songs on st anger
There were songs on St Anger?
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St Anger is the shitetest album ever made in the history of music.
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St Anger is the shitetest album ever made in the history of music.
NIN - Year Zero.
St Anger is 2nd worst.
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i'm still looking forward to it. however "not so good" it might be, it'll still be head and shoulders above pretty much any new metal that has been released recently.
Eeeh... I would dispute that, I've heard some incredibly good new metal recently which has blown United Abominations out of the water. Although, to be fair, a lot of it resides more in the death/black metal realm than the straightforward metal realm. Nevertheless- it feels like Megadeth's time has passed, since United Abominations is not a return to form, in my opinion.
well, i am saying about straightforward heavy $%&#ing metal. so the death/black deratives arent really in this group. i do agree, there are bands that make quality music, but not many are left on the forefront. and i also wish, people would stop moaning about friedman (i dont mean you in particular) and megadeth, now being just dave and hired guns. it was always like that. it's mustanes baby. but truth be told, they still made far superior music in the last decade and a half, than metallica. or 90% of the Nu bands that came out in this time.
hate_growth. with that statement, your opinions, views and rights to talk about metal are revoked. they will not be reinstated, until you turn away from your false views and spend some time with QUALITY metal.
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Manji you must be on crack if you think that about UA.
It is definatley a return to form, such a great album and i would recommend it to anyone, now i feel even better about seeing them at the Astoria on June 16th :D
IMO, Megadeth haven't done anything worth listening to since Youthanasia so i am very pleased with this new release.
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St Anger is the shitetest album ever made in the history of music.
NIN - Year Zero.
St Anger is 2nd worst.
nah you guys are being harsh the worst album ever has to be comfort in sound by feeder.
compared tot here old stuff anyway
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Great album - clearly the man's found religion. (Never Walk Alone...)
Shame about the politics - has he also had a historyectomy?
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i'm still looking forward to it. however "not so good" it might be, it'll still be head and shoulders above pretty much any new metal that has been released recently.
Eeeh... I would dispute that, I've heard some incredibly good new metal recently which has blown United Abominations out of the water. Although, to be fair, a lot of it resides more in the death/black metal realm than the straightforward metal realm. Nevertheless- it feels like Megadeth's time has passed, since United Abominations is not a return to form, in my opinion.
well, i am saying about straightforward heavy #$%!& metal. so the death/black deratives arent really in this group. i do agree, there are bands that make quality music, but not many are left on the forefront. and i also wish, people would stop moaning about friedman (i dont mean you in particular) and megadeth, now being just dave and hired guns. it was always like that. it's mustanes baby. but truth be told, they still made far superior music in the last decade and a half, than metallica. or 90% of the Nu bands that came out in this time.
hate_growth. with that statement, your opinions, views and rights to talk about metal are revoked. they will not be reinstated, until you turn away from your false views and spend some time with QUALITY metal.
which statement are you referring to and what false views????
anyway i have returned to this thread to say upon further listening to this album.....I LOVE IT
as i said at first i didnt think anything at all of it but now im really impressed.
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the statement about st. cr@p.. i mean anger
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the statement about st. cr@p.. i mean anger
yeah. from what i've heard so far on UA, it destroys st.Anger and even destroys the two New songs that Metallica play live (especially "the other new song" aka "vulturous", which is an insult to metallica's name.)
i need to buy UA, or rip my friend's copy :twisted:
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the statement about st. cr@p.. i mean anger
i like it more for how it reflects the bands issues at the time
and by that i dont mean bad tone etc lol
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I think it's just pure bullshitee :lol:
I really can't name a good thing about it.
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United Aboninations is far too literal for me.
Leave the political music to RATM ;)
Though maybe i need to listen to it more... Gears of War is fantastic.
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United Aboninations is far too literal for me.
Leave the political music to RATM ;)
Though maybe i need to listen to it more... Gears of War is fantastic.
sleepwalker is also amazing if VERY cheesy
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megadeth was always about politics
countdown to extinction, symphony of destruction, hangar 18, the scorpion, peace sells... ... .. i could go on and on
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Manji you must be on crack if you think that about UA.
It is definatley a return to form, such a great album and i would recommend it to anyone, now i feel even better about seeing them at the Astoria on June 16th :D
IMO, Megadeth haven't done anything worth listening to since Youthanasia so i am very pleased with this new release.
With respect, it is all personal opinions- I personally much prefer Megadeth's older stuff, and it's really not just because of Friedman. It just feels like Mustaine's run out of things to say, so he decided to go for the shock factor by attacking the United Nations, without too many strong songs to underpin the idea. Yes, Gears of War is pretty good, Sleepwalker I think's bloody amazing, and Washington is Next is quite nice as well, but... three good songs are not enough to save the album, in my opinion. When I listen to it, I just don't find myself getting excited or enjoying it like older Megadeth or Metallica.
Anyway, that is just my opinion and I apologise if you don't like it ^_^
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Manji you must be on crack if you think that about UA.
It is definatley a return to form, such a great album and i would recommend it to anyone, now i feel even better about seeing them at the Astoria on June 16th :D
IMO, Megadeth haven't done anything worth listening to since Youthanasia so i am very pleased with this new release.
With respect, it is all personal opinions- I personally much prefer Megadeth's older stuff, and it's really not just because of Friedman. It just feels like Mustaine's run out of things to say, so he decided to go for the shock factor by attacking the United Nations, without too many strong songs to underpin the idea. Yes, Gears of War is pretty good, Sleepwalker I think's bloody amazing, and Washington is Next is quite nice as well, but... three good songs are not enough to save the album, in my opinion. When I listen to it, I just don't find myself getting excited or enjoying it like older Megadeth or Metallica.
Anyway, that is just my opinion and I apologise if you don't like it ^_^
i believe it would have been so much better if the line up was...
friedman, mustaine, ellefson, menza.....
god i miss those days
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megadeth was always about politics
countdown to extinction, symphony of destruction, hangar 18, the scorpion, peace sells... ... .. i could go on and on
ofcourse, but on the first listen, it felt far too literal on some tracks.
I think its Amerikhastan thats my major gripe, at least the intro. And washington is next! i've just removed them from the track list, and now i like the album. :}
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megadeth was always about politics
countdown to extinction, symphony of destruction, hangar 18, the scorpion, peace sells... ... .. i could go on and on
ofcourse, but on the first listen, it felt far too literal on some tracks.
I think its Amerikhastan thats my major gripe, at least the intro. And washington is next! i've just removed them from the track list, and now i like the album. :}
if you ignore the vocals washington is next is amazing.
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I would rather kick out Friedman and replace with Chris Poland. First 2 albums were much better than what followed imo.
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I would rather kick out Friedman and replace with Chris Poland. First 2 albums were much better than what followed imo.
poland would be my second choice.
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I just got this album... I'm finding it very boring so far. Glad I didnt pay for it.
Play for Blood and Sleepwalker are the only ones I've really enjoyed so far.
Rust in Peace ftw!
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I would rather kick out Friedman and replace with Chris Poland. First 2 albums were much better than what followed imo.
poland would be my second choice.
It was more thrasy when Poland was there :lol:
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I love the album. Need a few more listens to get more familiar with the album but overall I love it. The guitar tones are absolutely amazing, reminds me of Countdown To Extinction (favourite Deth album)
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I prefer Chris Poland's playing too but the best Megadeth album for me is Rust In Peace which has MF playing - saw them on that tour and they were a pretty ordinary live band actually, especially since Alice In Chains opened up for them, then The Almighty.
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I've only just got UA and was pretty underwhelmed on first listen, but it's growing on me fast (as long as I ignore the lyrics).
Not crazy about Glen Drover - he has some of Chris Poland's legato thing going on, but he's less creative. He seems to slip too easily into shred-w**kery when something melodic would work better.
I take Davey's point about Megadeth being very much Mustaine's band, but some hired guns are better than others, and I think Marty Friedman made a big contribution to the band's sound. So did Max Norman on the albums he produced.
But overall, I like UA a lot - which is great, as there are so few new metal albums I enjoy nowadays.
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yeah the lyrics are pretty cheesy, but I thought Megadeth was more or less always about that? I mean... look at the album covers and their previous lyrics...
Am I the only one who thinks that Rust In peace is the best $%&#ing album ever? I ACTUALLY get a music high listening to Holy wars (the first part) and Tornado of Souls.
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i know UA is technically better but i just prefer the songs on st anger
There were songs on St Anger?
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Megadeth UA is very listenable, unlike a lot of other shitee that calls its self Metal.IMHO
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I've only just got UA and was pretty underwhelmed on first listen, but it's growing on me fast (as long as I ignore the lyrics).
Well... the good thing is it's set me writing lyrics again. Or is that the bad thing? :)
I've got one so far: 'Historyectomy Reversal (Can you hear me at the back Dave?)' which is maybe a tad political... :)
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I've only just got UA and was pretty underwhelmed on first listen, but it's growing on me fast (as long as I ignore the lyrics).
Not crazy about Glen Drover - he has some of Chris Poland's legato thing going on, but he's less creative. He seems to slip too easily into shred-w**kery when something melodic would work better.
I take Davey's point about Megadeth being very much Mustaine's band, but some hired guns are better than others, and I think Marty Friedman made a big contribution to the band's sound. So did Max Norman on the albums he produced.
But overall, I like UA a lot - which is great, as there are so few new metal albums I enjoy nowadays.
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Well said Philly Q.
I give UA a 7.75/10; Mustain is not getting any younger and his music reflects where he is at this point in life.
UA = I-Pod worthy metal \m/
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I love it.
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I've had UA for a couple of days now and I LOVE it too.
It would have sat in my collection gathering dust after the first listen but I kept with it and by listen 5/6 I've really got into it.
I always find that the less immediate albums tend over time to be some of my favourites.
I'm gonna go back and put some effort into MD45 (Mustaine's solo effort) and see what I think of that.
I've only EVER played that once despite owning it for years..
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I'm gonna go back and put some effort into MD45 (Mustaine's solo effort) and see what I think of that.
The MD.45 album is brilliant! I like it better than a lot of Megadeth stuff (and I love Megadeth).
Have you got the original version with Lee Ving on vocals? On the remaster, Mustaine apparently "couldn't find" Ving's vocal tracks and redid them himself. It's nowhere near as good.
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as said above the MD.45 album is brilliant.
Now that ive had the UA tracks cropping up on my gaypod over the last month i must say its one of my current listens atm along with epitath by necrophagist and the new evile album
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Have you got the original version with Lee Ving on vocals? On the remaster, Mustaine apparently "couldn't find" Ving's vocal tracks and redid them himself. It's nowhere near as good.
I've got the re-mix and remastered version so I'll have to make do.
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Have you got the original version with Lee Ving on vocals? On the remaster, Mustaine apparently "couldn't find" Ving's vocal tracks and redid them himself. It's nowhere near as good.
I've got the re-mix and remastered version so I'll have to make do.
i prefer the remastered one.....less harmonica solos :)
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i prefer the remastered one.....less harmonica solos :)
But Lee Ving's vocals are so much better than whiny ol' Dave's!
Whatever, they're still the same songs I suppose. :)