Bare Knuckle Pickups Forum
Forum Ringside => Pickups => Topic started by: TreyAzagthoth on July 16, 2005, 05:57:38 PM
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I'm having a custom built Ran guitar from Poland built when I get the cash it will take 5 months to build and I chose EMG 81s for it even though I own the ZW set I'm not a huge fan of the EMGs maybe mine just are messed up. Umm Well Ill use the EMGs for a while until I can order some None blacker Bareknuckles but I dont know which to get I think my good friend from Wales told me to get the Warpig bridge and Mule neck cause he has quite a few Bareknuckles but I cant ask him cause he was in a bad accident a while back. So I'm asking you guys I'm a death metal guitarist and I want them to have an awesome tone when they are distorted and harmonics are definately up there with pinched harmonics and dimebag style dive bombs.
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I think you'll do fine with a calibrated set of Warpigs.
Check some of the clips.
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I agree with Ratrod, the Warpig would do what you want, it is the same output wise as an EMG81 but with all the benefits of a passive hand wound pickup. You will get far more detail and a bigger sound from it than your EMG's which can sound quite artificial and sterile.
Pinched harmonics seem to jump off of the fret board with the warpig and dive bombs won’t be a problem.
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Hails man
thank´s for chime in on my OFF TOPIC extreme metal thread.
well... i don´t have NAY experience with BKPS BUT, i have my EAR... and i read some descriptions... and it seems that i need more info from you...
what kinds of Output, Bass, treble and mids do you want?
hails
J.P
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Hails man
thank´s for chime in on my OFF TOPIC extreme metal thread.
well... i don´t have NAY experience with BKPS BUT, i have my EAR... and i read some descriptions... and it seems that i need more info from you...
what kinds of Output, Bass, treble and mids do you want?
hails
J.P
Well I want some bass but not too much I mean its good for just jamming but with a band its uneccessary, so quite a bit of bass but more treble than anything and mids slightly less. But it doesnt really matter cause I can adjust my amp accordingly.
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I think the Miracle Man would be more to your taste than the Warpig.
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After looking at your gear, you seem to be a Dimebag fan! Again as Ratrod suggested the Miracle man would be good for that. Another one to look at is the Nailbomb, which is more versatile and cleans up better.
Have you listened the clips in the player’s room? If so which ones do you like/dislike?
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Huuuuuuuuuuuum, yeah, Maybe a Miracle man, Maybe a Nailbomb..?!
i don´t know which of the BK METAL pickups has less mid than the others.. TIM must chime in and answer your question
Hails
J.P
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I know it's not a metal pickup but my Mule kicks ass for metal aswell as anything else I play! Pinch harmonics come with no effort!
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I know tom, and i Agree completely
i heard your clips, THE MULE are addictive
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The Mule is a good pickup but It wont do what he wants, the High gain range of pickups we do would suite his playing style better.
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So warpig bridge and what for the neck?
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All of our pickups are available in calibrated sets, which mean that each pickup has a neck that is especially designed to work with the bridge pickup.
In the case of the Warpig the neck has a DC of 18K and an alnico V magnet.
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awesome I'll check and see what the price would be for two warpigs in none blacker shipped to the states.
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Are you kidding? Im getting a custom ran from Poland too! Im getting a mahagony/maple Flying V with Floyd Rose and am probably going to drop a calibrated set of ceramic Warpigs in it!
I want the Architects tone (off With Fear I Kiss the Burning Darkness), though I also like the Terminal Spirit Disease tone!, and Im pretty sure these babies can do it (Yeah the big ATG fan up there knows what I want =] ).
My tone already does it pretty good (EMGs 81 in Basswood with a XXX Combo), but I want something less sterile. Sorry, I dont like EMG's. I love the clarity but there is something about passives that grab me.
The Ceramic is better for this then Alinco, correct?
Edit: The Break of Autumn by At The Gates. The Tone is to die for.
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It's not just the mag type, but the wind and wire too!
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In the case of the Warpig the neck has a DC of 18K and an alnico V magnet.
For added comparison I think I rememeber it being mentioned that the Warpig neck was basically an A5 Miracle Man neck.
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Hi there i play a Maverick X1 Electric Guitar with X1 Pickups and a Floyd Rose Floating tremelo system i use a Marshall 100HDFX Half stack amp too. Reason i wanna change these pickups is because im in a metal band and we require something that is hot, agressive and allows me to solo with beutiful tonage! I play rythm and some lead solos and im not sure what to pick. Im conviced about getting the Nailbomb but i wanted to get Warpig but from sound clips i heard it doest feel like it could punch out some awesum solos. Would a calibrated set of Nailbombs be good for what i want the sound clips impressed me so far sounds like it has full fat tones for solos and agressive beast no-nonsense style for metal rythm.
Adam Kenyon
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I liked the clips of the warpigs and the recording of Tim with the Nailbomb.
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The Nailbomb has a more organic tone, much more open and it cleans up better. The Warpig is ideal for crushing metal riffs, it is comparable to an EMG out put wise but will sound allot less sterile and more "natural" it will be more bass heavy.
The other pickup to consider is the miracle man, which has a very tight bass response and a screaming lead tone.
The ceramic mag in the Miracle man will give you a tighter bass, but will not clean up so well. The Alnico V mag's in the warpig and Nailbomb give you a more versatile pickup with a more even frequency response.
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well clean doesnt really matter that much I mean I play clean but not that often.
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The Nailbomb has a more organic tone, much more open and it cleans up better. The Warpig is ideal for crushing metal riffs, it is comparable to an EMG out put wise but will sound allot less sterile and more "natural" it will be more bass heavy.
The other pickup to consider is the miracle man, which has a very tight bass response and a screaming lead tone.
The ceramic mag in the Miracle man will give you a tighter bass, but will not clean up so well. The Alnico V mag's in the warpig and Nailbomb give you a more versatile pickup with a more even frequency response.
Yeah its definately a warpig for the bridge, just got to ponder on which neck pickup the miracle or the nailbomb, both sounded awesome.
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It would be a custom order, but you would probably get the best results from a Warpig set with a ceramic magnet in the bridge. My brother has one and he plays Death/black metal and grind core. It has a very tight bass response which makes it perfect for ultra heavy riffs, when the bass can sometimes get a bit too much. He plays in drop A on a 7 string and the bass still stays tight and not flabby.
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It would be a custom order, but you would probably get the best results from a Warpig set with a ceramic magnet in the bridge. My brother has one and he plays Death/black metal and grind core. It has a very tight bass response which makes it perfect for ultra heavy riffs, when the bass can sometimes get a bit too much. He plays in drop A on a 7 string and the bass still stays tight and not flabby.
Hmmm sounds like a plan so the bridge would be ceramic and the neck would be alnico? I wonder how much that would cost since I live in the US.
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the exchange rate has gone down in your favour recently, it was $1.69 to £1 last time I checked. We ship to the states almost every day now so that wont be a problem.
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apparantly At the gates used a marshall valvestate 8080 slammed with an sd-1 to get the blinded by fear tone... Sure i read it in an interview...
believe Chuck from Death used the same amps?
I was going to get a Ran guitar, but went with www.legraguitars.co.uk
as they are in UK and seem really sound (and do some GOOD stuff on their website)... gonna be a BKP loaded shred machine!
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Well how much would that custom order run me? including shipping of course.
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So cud i put a Warpig in the bridge and Nailbomb in the neck? S i wud then be able to play scorching metal riffs and cool solos?
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the exchange rate has gone down in your favour recently, it was $1.69 to £1 last time I checked. We ship to the states almost every day now so that wont be a problem.
Yep ... every time I BUY something, the dollar goes down.
When I SELL something, the dollar goes up!! D'oh!!!!
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The Nailbomb has a more organic tone, much more open and it cleans up better. The Warpig is ideal for crushing metal riffs, it is comparable to an EMG out put wise but will sound allot less sterile and more "natural" it will be more bass heavy.
The other pickup to consider is the miracle man, which has a very tight bass response and a screaming lead tone.
The ceramic mag in the Miracle man will give you a tighter bass, but will not clean up so well. The Alnico V mag's in the warpig and Nailbomb give you a more versatile pickup with a more even frequency response.
Hails Steve.
let me ask you something.
In a Hypotetical Situation... how do you compare the MIDS on the nailbomb and miracle man?
i mean, for an example, in a scale of 1 to 5.
how much for the nailbomb bridge and how much for the miracle man bridge?!
Hails
J.P
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So cud i put a Warpig in the bridge and Nailbomb in the neck? S i wud then be able to play scorching metal riffs and cool solos?
The Warpig neck (if it is, actually, basically a alnico MM) also oughta handle cool metal solos. But there are good MP3 clips of Mr. Tim playin' both MM and NB necks, I believe, so you can check out which one has the nuances thou seek'st :)
Man, a ceramic Warpig bridge would be b r u t a l !!! I can barely contemplate that :twisted:
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Man, a ceramic Warpig bridge would be b r u t a l !!! I can barely contemplate that :twisted:
a warpig isnt ceramic? .. long time since i last read the pup descriptions
wowza
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a warpig isnt ceramic? .. long time since i last read the pup descriptions
Indeed, the Warpig is Alnico V (which is perhaps what helps the 'pig clean up so surprisingly well?); it's the Miracle Man that's ceramic.
Though it seems like the statistics in the current descriptions are the bridge pickup configuration (since in any set, the neck is likely to be made with a lower output, I think). Hopefully the promised new descriptions, in addition to more info all around, will help distinguish between bridge and neck positions (at least for the humbuckers!).
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The Warpig usually isn't ceramic, but I would advise it for what Trey plays.
I can’t give an exact mid comparison between the NB and MM man but the MM has a scooped midrange compared to the NB.
You couldn't put a Nailbomb bridge in the neck, it would be muddy but a Nialbomb neck would sound good. The Warpig neck has a screaming lead tone so I would advise you stick with that. The Nailbomb is more of an old school metal sound, think sepultura kind of tone. The Warpig is much more of a modern metal tone whereas I think the miracle man is like Zakk and Dimebags tone.
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The Warpig neck has a screaming lead tone so I would advise you stick with that. The Nailbomb is more of an old school metal sound, think sepultura kind of tone. The Warpig is much more of a modern metal tone whereas I think the miracle man is like Zakk and Dimebags tone.
Man, I had thought Zakk and Dimebag were modern metal! :) I've only just gotten my head around the idea that Sepultura must be old school these days. (I keep thinking that, like, NWOBHM bands are old school, but I guess they must actually be Jurassic School by now ;)).
Where's that wall-of-warm-molasses Kyuss tone then? 8)
One of the problems I find in listening for people with great tone is that everyone with great tone plays so much better than me! But equally, loads of music that I love was recorded so long ago by people who were (at least at the time) so wasted and/or broke that when you really listen to the sound, you realize it was played through a box in a toilet and recorded on trash. ;) Half the tone you end up imagining in your head, like some kind of error correction!
Still, it seems that throughout the last 40 years, it's hard to go wrong by taking a fat guitar, loading it with fat pickups, and running it through a fat amp. I guess when I think of great guitar albums, I'm always going to think of the Sabbaths and Zeps and Mountains and Santanas ... though at any given moment I'm probably more likely to cue up something (slightly) more recent to listen to, like Zakk or Down or Spiritual Beggars or something. But that stuff doesn't really sound that different to me -- just louder and better recorded than the "classics"! :twisted:
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You mentioned spiritual beggars and DOWN... maybe a Holydiver pickup in the bridge?
Hails
J.P
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You mentioned spiritual beggars and DOWN... maybe a Holydiver pickup in the bridge?
Hmm, interesting idea. The Holydivers are ceramic, and though I've like the playing of other's with a cermanic magnet pickup (like the MM), I haven't really felt the ceramic vibe was "me". Still , the current Holydiver description talks of "defined, powerful attack and classic hot rock tone" as well as "sweet clean tone", both of which things I like the sound of :). Then again, it also mentions "technically ... demanding players", of which I'm not one ;) .... I'm leary of the pickups people describe as "unforgiving, with nowhere to hide", because I have the technique of a drunken monkey and need plenty of places to hide and much forgiveness :)
Haven't seen much in the way of Holydiver clips though! (Another "ignored" pickup?) It'd be cool to here what it can do.
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Yeah.. but you must think this way too : for an example.. i liked the MUle pickups, but they are not for high gains stuff... but the tone really convinced me to get one, at least, for the neck.
so...you might think that way to .
Q:)
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I think of Zakk and Dime as classic metal tones, sepultura have been around for a while and were way ahead of their time, their tone isn’t super saturated, they just know how to make riffs sound heavy without using silly amounts of distortion!
I think of modern metal tones as fear factory, Rammstein, Strapping young lad etc.
This is probably because of my age, Im sure older members will disagree!
As for some of the less mentioned pickups, they are not ignored; its just not every one has access to recording equipment!
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Hails Mr Pig
to me , modern metal distorted tone is : Decapitated-Nihility, Cephalic Carnage-Lucid Interval, Vader,blood red throne-altered genesis,lost soul-chaostream,etc.
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Sounds like modern minority metal to me.................I think MrPig is refering to modern mainstream metal.
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Ahhh Indeed TIM
8)
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:lol: