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Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: Doadman on May 24, 2007, 01:57:40 PM

Title: Starter pack
Post by: Doadman on May 24, 2007, 01:57:40 PM: A friend of my son is wanting to get himself started with a guitar and amp for no more than £250 and ideally closer to £200. So far I've come up with three options for him:

1) A starter pack done by a shop I know that cives him an Aria STG004 that has had a full setup and a Kustom 10w amp. The amp is decent and the guitar is great when well set up and gives loads of variety in sounds. That would come in at £209

2) Buy a Peavey Rotor with the same amp for about £245 if you include a strap and cable he'd get with the Aria.

3) Buy a Vintage VS-6 and a Vox AD15-VT for about the same £245

Which of those do you think would be best to start with or do you have any other ideas?
Title: Starter pack
Post by: ToneMonkey on May 24, 2007, 02:28:21 PM: Get an amp like a little smokey and the best second hand guitar he can afford.

Or an acoustic of course :wink: A nice spanish is always nice to learn on.
Title: Starter pack
Post by: Kilby on May 24, 2007, 02:40:07 PM: Does it have to be strat shaped ?

I mention this becasue the Aira PE is an execellent guitar, along with a microcube that would come in fairly under 250.

The little danelectro honeytone amp is great fun and comes in under 30 quid.
Title: Starter pack
Post by: gorath23 on May 24, 2007, 02:43:41 PM: Guitar-wise I'd always say go second-hand, Ibanez RG321MH, Jackson JS-series but if it has to be brand new then go for a Vintage. Amp wise one of those new Vox modellers, or at least something with a bit of variety, Line6 Spider 30 or something.
Title: Starter pack
Post by: sgmypod on May 24, 2007, 02:47:25 PM: http://www.guitarzone.co.uk/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=23&products_id=788&osCsid=28265242def6c4529e55860e6c9e6066
one of these little amps..looks small but don't sound like a practice amp
Title: Starter pack
Post by: Transcend on May 24, 2007, 03:44:23 PM: Get a vintage i had one as my first guitar and i still love it to this day (i was really upset when it got stolen)

i got a vintage vb8BRQM with hardcase strap lead and some picks for £200 and sourced a marshall mg15dfx on ebay for £30

check ebay for vintages they have some really quality stuff at decent prices atm

also epiphone g400s go on ebay for about £80 every now and then
Title: Starter pack
Post by: ToneMonkey on May 24, 2007, 04:41:15 PM: The Vox modeling amps that someone mentioned are wicked for starters and people like me (been playing a while, but I'm cr@p. so still a starter). You can learn about what YOUR sound is.
Title: Starter pack
Post by: dave_mc on May 24, 2007, 05:22:28 PM: i'd probably go with a microcube or the vox version of it (da5? haven't tried it, worth a try as it's its main competitor).

as for guitars... yamaha pacifica 112 is pretty good, some of the cheaper lags felt pretty good (probably better than the pacifica) when i tried them too.

best if you can try all you can though, as i haven't tried things like the arias mentioned (which are probably worth a look).
Title: Starter pack
Post by: Simon D on May 24, 2007, 06:09:53 PM: Quote from: dave_mc
as for guitars... yamaha pacifica 112 is pretty good, some of the cheaper lags felt pretty good (probably better than the pacifica) when i tried them too.

I can't recommend the Yamaha enough. I had one as a first guitar 12 (!) years ago, and it's still going, now belongs to a friend who recently took up guitar. Perhaps a Pacifica 012 might be a good bet, I've seen quite a few package deals teaming them up with perfectly decent little amps for around the £200 ballpark.

Anyhow, hope you can find something good and get another convert to six strings!
Title: Starter pack
Post by: 38thBeatle on May 24, 2007, 06:40:11 PM: A shop in my town is knocking out Danelectros for £150.00 at the moment. If that is any use you can let me know and maybe we can work something out.
Title: Starter pack
Post by: sambo on May 24, 2007, 06:45:15 PM: Quote from: ToneMonkey
The Vox modeling amps that someone mentioned are wicked for starters and people like me (been playing a while, but I'm cr@p. so still a starter). You can learn about what YOUR sound is.

+1

i think the VOX (AD series is it?) is great.

and to echo what dave and someone else said- the roland cubes are also decent as well.

either of them would get my vote.
Title: Starter pack
Post by: sgmypod on May 24, 2007, 07:03:30 PM: http://www.guitarzone.co.uk/catalog/product_thumb.php?img=images/LP-BK-full.jpg&w=100&h=170
These are quite good as well or the Dean evo xm
The first one I bought my kid for first guitar is quite nice
Title: Starter pack
Post by: Tarzan on May 24, 2007, 10:30:27 PM: I'd say Pacifica too, it was my first electric, and every shop I went in to said that it was one of the best beginners' around. Although the 112's are pretty much £200 on their own.
Title: Starter pack
Post by: dave_mc on May 25, 2007, 12:32:53 PM: ^ you can get them for £150 pretty easily, i thought.
Title: Starter pack
Post by: Elliot on May 25, 2007, 01:32:00 PM: If it were me:

Yamaha Pacifica 112 - £169
Vox DA5 - £75

£6 for a cable .
Title: Starter pack
Post by: gorath23 on May 25, 2007, 03:41:27 PM: Quote from: Elliot
If it were me:

Yamaha Pacifica - £169
Vox DA5 - £75

£6 for a cable .

+1, forgot about the Yamaha, great guitars.
Title: Starter pack
Post by: dave_mc on May 25, 2007, 05:09:53 PM: actually if you can get up to £200 for the guitar, the pacifica 412 is £199 on gak... might be worth considering. the 112 was nice for the price when i tried it, but you'd have known it was a starter... not so much with the 412 i'd have thought. guess the 412 is worth a try if at all possible... just in case it's loads better for not too much more (i haven't tried the 412, but the 812 is in a whole other league to the 112)...