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Title: WHat should an ashdown fa60 (fallen angel) sound like
Post by: Transcend on May 28, 2007, 12:29:47 PM
my housemate has bought one a few days ago and with the gain up FULL the most distortion it gets is like a hard blues sort of breakup

and thats even using my mahogany LP with the miracle man with it

ive asked a few other people and they say it probably needs revalving as theyre sure it should be a lot higher gain than that.
Title: WHat should an ashdown fa60 (fallen angel) sound like
Post by: noodleplugerine on May 28, 2007, 12:33:50 PM
Is it the normal one or the DSP one?

The normal one has been discontinued now - Not so normal anymore :p
Title: Re: WHat should an ashdown fa60 (fallen angel) sound like
Post by: sambo on May 28, 2007, 01:09:29 PM
Quote from: hate_growth
my housemate has bought one a few days ago and with the gain up FULL the most distortion it gets is like a hard blues sort of breakup

and thats even using my mahogany LP with the miracle man with it

ive asked a few other people and they say it probably needs revalving as theyre sure it should be a lot higher gain than that.


well surely whether its DSP or original it should definitely be much higher than blues gain i should think....
Title: Re: WHat should an ashdown fa60 (fallen angel) sound like
Post by: noodleplugerine on May 28, 2007, 01:18:58 PM
Quote from: sambo
Quote from: hate_growth
my housemate has bought one a few days ago and with the gain up FULL the most distortion it gets is like a hard blues sort of breakup

and thats even using my mahogany LP with the miracle man with it

ive asked a few other people and they say it probably needs revalving as theyre sure it should be a lot higher gain than that.


well surely whether its DSP or original it should definitely be much higher than blues gain i should think....


+1.

I was just wondering :p
Title: WHat should an ashdown fa60 (fallen angel) sound like
Post by: Crazy_Joe on May 28, 2007, 01:29:08 PM
I'm pretty sure this was named the nu metal amp so it sounds like some maintenance is needed.
Title: WHat should an ashdown fa60 (fallen angel) sound like
Post by: Sifu Ben on May 28, 2007, 04:21:26 PM
No, it's just on channel A  :roll:
Title: WHat should an ashdown fa60 (fallen angel) sound like
Post by: LazyNinja on May 28, 2007, 06:25:41 PM
I had a Ashdown FA60DSP half stack and it had no gain, exactly the same thing your housemate experienced. Does he also find lack of definition with the amp? Mine was all bassy and had no bite to the sound at all.

Using the effect return control on the back you can sorta increase the gain but it was still shitee.
Title: WHat should an ashdown fa60 (fallen angel) sound like
Post by: Sifu Ben on May 28, 2007, 06:52:36 PM
Seriously, the sound he is describing is channel 1 with the gain all the way up.
Title: WHat should an ashdown fa60 (fallen angel) sound like
Post by: Transcend on May 28, 2007, 07:59:19 PM
no i have tried the amp myself on both channels and it really doesnt have much gain but it does have good definition and its the old fa60 without dsp
Title: WHat should an ashdown fa60 (fallen angel) sound like
Post by: Transcend on May 28, 2007, 08:00:30 PM
Quote from: Sifu Ben
Seriously, the sound he is describing is channel 1 with the gain all the way up.


and he isnta  retard and neither am i.
Title: WHat should an ashdown fa60 (fallen angel) sound like
Post by: Davey on May 28, 2007, 08:16:07 PM
Quote from: hate_growth
Quote from: Sifu Ben
Seriously, the sound he is describing is channel 1 with the gain all the way up.


and he isnta  retard and neither am i.

i'll give him the benefit of the doubt... you however ...  :roll:  lol .. kidding aside

check the tubes, and if they got a nice orange glow to them. he probably needs new tubes and a bias. get all the connections checked out to be sure too
Title: WHat should an ashdown fa60 (fallen angel) sound like
Post by: Transcend on May 28, 2007, 08:47:16 PM
Quote from: Davey
Quote from: hate_growth
Quote from: Sifu Ben
Seriously, the sound he is describing is channel 1 with the gain all the way up.


and he isnta  retard and neither am i.

i'll give him the benefit of the doubt... you however ...  :roll:  lol .. kidding aside

check the tubes, and if they got a nice orange glow to them. he probably needs new tubes and a bias. get all the connections checked out to be sure too


:D

well when ever he gets off his ass ill get him to check this thread as he actually does have an account on here he's just lazy.
Title: WHat should an ashdown fa60 (fallen angel) sound like
Post by: Sifu Ben on May 28, 2007, 09:01:12 PM
Are you changing using the pedal or the amp?
Title: WHat should an ashdown fa60 (fallen angel) sound like
Post by: Tyrian on May 28, 2007, 09:03:28 PM
Quote from: hate_growth
Quote from: Davey
Quote from: hate_growth
Quote from: Sifu Ben
Seriously, the sound he is describing is channel 1 with the gain all the way up.


and he isnta  retard and neither am i.

i'll give him the benefit of the doubt... you however ...  :roll:  lol .. kidding aside

check the tubes, and if they got a nice orange glow to them. he probably needs new tubes and a bias. get all the connections checked out to be sure too


:D

well when ever he gets off his ass ill get him to check this thread as he actually does have an account on here he's just lazy.




Just don't let them know who I am ok?

Also, I've had the damn thing on for about an hour now, on a reasonably low volume, so can't expect too much gain, but I have a considerable amount and my valves are glowing orange. They'd probably be bright if that light wasn't there though (The VU metre in the amp has a light which lights up all insides too lol.)

and to the other dude, I know the difference between channels. Cheers for patronising me though, much appreciated.

Cheers to everyone here.
Title: WHat should an ashdown fa60 (fallen angel) sound like
Post by: Sifu Ben on May 28, 2007, 09:52:15 PM
I'm not trying to be patronising, it's just he perfectly described what channel 1 with maximum gain sounds like. A) the amp switch and pedal have to be set up just right initially else the pedal doesn't work properly, B) if your last amp was a single channel Laney, it would be an easy mistake to make. How low are you playing at? It needs to be 3-4 or more to come alive, otherwise it just sounds flat and muddy, without much gain.
Title: WHat should an ashdown fa60 (fallen angel) sound like
Post by: Tyrian on May 28, 2007, 10:11:40 PM
Quote from: Sifu Ben
I'm not trying to be patronising, it's just he perfectly described what channel 1 with maximum gain sounds like. A) the amp switch and pedal have to be set up just right initially else the pedal doesn't work properly, B) if your last amp was a single channel Laney, it would be an easy mistake to make. How low are you playing at? It needs to be 3-4 or more to come alive, otherwise it just sounds flat and muddy, without much gain.


It's all good, my last amp as a pos crate gt1200h, which I only got cause it was cheap as chips.
I've basically got it sorted out now, my footpedal is just the one from the crate, and only switched between channel 1 and 2, but i've rewired it to change channels with 1 switch, turn boost on and off with 2nd switch and switch master volumes with 3rd. and I've got gain sorted.
Title: WHat should an ashdown fa60 (fallen angel) sound like
Post by: LazyNinja on May 28, 2007, 11:24:32 PM
So yours is sorted now? :?  Mine must have been a real dud or it could be that the new ones are cr@p. I was glad to see the back of it in any case.
Title: WHat should an ashdown fa60 (fallen angel) sound like
Post by: Tyrian on May 29, 2007, 01:58:34 AM
yeah, all seems fine now lol. I'm gonna get a tubescreamer anyway. TS808 or TS9.

I'll post a clip tomorrow, when I become alive lol.
Title: WHat should an ashdown fa60 (fallen angel) sound like
Post by: Transcend on May 29, 2007, 11:46:38 AM
Quote from: LazyNinja
So yours is sorted now? :?  Mine must have been a real dud or it could be that the new ones are cr@p. I was glad to see the back of it in any case.


apparently the DSP on them takes a lot out of the tone for some reason.
Title: WHat should an ashdown fa60 (fallen angel) sound like
Post by: Orkestra on May 30, 2007, 09:51:09 AM
so... in effect the guy who was 'patronising' you, was correct?


amazing.
Title: WHat should an ashdown fa60 (fallen angel) sound like
Post by: Transcend on May 30, 2007, 11:25:45 AM
Quote from: Orkestra
so... in effect the guy who was 'patronising' you, was correct?


amazing.


not exactly it was on channel 2 which is the distortion channel.

there was just a boost function to add that bit more gain

the guy said that it was on channel 1.
Title: WHat should an ashdown fa60 (fallen angel) sound like
Post by: Tyrian on May 30, 2007, 11:43:20 AM
Quote from: Orkestra
so... in effect the guy who was 'patronising' you, was correct?


amazing.



And also I've got more gain out of the non boosted Channel 2.
Title: WHat should an ashdown fa60 (fallen angel) sound like
Post by: Orkestra on May 30, 2007, 12:00:23 PM
ehehehe  :D
Title: WHat should an ashdown fa60 (fallen angel) sound like
Post by: Tyrian on May 30, 2007, 12:40:26 PM
Quote from: Orkestra
ehehehe  :D


What?
Title: WHat should an ashdown fa60 (fallen angel) sound like
Post by: Transcend on May 30, 2007, 12:49:10 PM
Quote from: Tyrian
Quote from: Orkestra
ehehehe  :D


What?


just a creepy laugh..... like on code veronica when your going up those steps to the house......
Title: WHat should an ashdown fa60 (fallen angel) sound like
Post by: Tyrian on May 30, 2007, 01:03:42 PM
Quote from: hate_growth
Quote from: Tyrian
Quote from: Orkestra
ehehehe  :D


What?


just a creepy laugh..... like on code veronica when your going up those steps to the house......


Wouldn't that make this Orkestra dude like, a schizo transvestite or something though? That's not a nice thing to say.
Title: WHat should an ashdown fa60 (fallen angel) sound like
Post by: Orkestra on May 30, 2007, 02:27:50 PM
...i am a schizo transvestive....






COME IN MY HOUSE
Title: WHat should an ashdown fa60 (fallen angel) sound like
Post by: Tyrian on May 30, 2007, 03:01:06 PM
Quote from: Orkestra
...i am a schizo transvestive....






COME IN MY HOUSE




Um, well if you are then I guess there's no harm done. But how do I know that when I get to your house your other personality that isn't a transvestite is there and turns me away? :S
Title: WHat should an ashdown fa60 (fallen angel) sound like
Post by: Transcend on May 30, 2007, 03:02:23 PM
Quote from: Tyrian
Quote from: Orkestra
...i am a schizo transvestive....






COME IN MY HOUSE




Um, well if you are then I guess there's no harm done. But how do I know that when I get to your house your other personality that isn't a transvestite is there and turns me away? :S



 :|
Title: WHat should an ashdown fa60 (fallen angel) sound like
Post by: sgmypod on May 30, 2007, 03:13:55 PM
Damn not another schizo transvestite, I thought I was the only one on the forum...
oh yeah and cheers Tyrian for messing me around, PM would have been nice
Title: WHat should an ashdown fa60 (fallen angel) sound like
Post by: Tyrian on May 30, 2007, 03:28:56 PM
Quote from: sgmypod
Damn not another schizo transvestite, I thought I was the only one on the forum...
oh yeah and cheers Tyrian for messing me around, PM would have been nice


shite sorry mate, I got this Ashdown given for my birthday on sunday. I was gonna PM you but it slipped my mind, sorry about that.
TBH I wouldn't blame you for being really pissed at me, I know would be.
Title: WHat should an ashdown fa60 (fallen angel) sound like
Post by: sgmypod on May 30, 2007, 03:38:10 PM
nah just turn up in my trany outfit
Title: WHat should an ashdown fa60 (fallen angel) sound like
Post by: Tyrian on May 30, 2007, 03:40:48 PM
Quote from: sgmypod
nah just turn up in my trany outfit


So you want me to turn up in your trany outfit?
What's wrong with mine?
Title: WHat should an ashdown fa60 (fallen angel) sound like
Post by: sgmypod on May 30, 2007, 08:22:58 PM
because my thongs are bedazzelled