Bare Knuckle Pickups Forum
Forum Ringside => Players => Topic started by: hunter on June 02, 2007, 07:57:30 AM
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Some 80s hardrock with my recently acquired 100 EUR cab (G12-65 Rola).
This speaker asked for a Les Paul, some real man's pickups (BlackDogs) and some Scorpions :twisted:
The Vintage30 sounds lame against it - I think I want some Greenbacks now ...
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Sounded great! 8) However, I prefer your clips with the Einstein. :) I don't know if it's the speaker, the amp or the volume level but that sound seems to cut through better.
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Awesome tone - love it! Luvvin' the Shiva :D
Why do you say the Vintage 30 sounds lame? :?
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Mmmm
"No-one like you" - good choice
Nice variation on Jabs solo guitar
Sounds good Christoph!
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I agree with Feline, this is one of Scorpions best and you sound great playing it! I still prefer the Diezel though haha.
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I agree with Feline, this is one of Scorpions best and you sound great playing it! I still prefer the Diezel though haha.
Keep forgetting you like the Scorps
Got my concert tix through to see the Scorps and MSG at Hammersmith in July :D
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Why do you say the Vintage 30 sounds lame? :?
Because the Rola 12-65 that was mic'ed in this clip has this dirty upper mid thing going, which is exactly the frequency that I always hate with the V30 and with this speaker it's just awesome...
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Mmmm
"No-one like you" - good choice
Nice variation on Jabs solo guitar
Sounds good Christoph!
Haha, I did think of you when I played it Jonathan, thanks for the compliments, could do better but I am also happy given the time invested was quite limited.
Check Jabs' gear when you see them, let us know if he still plays those SLO100s. Still enjoying the SP77?
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Sounded great! 8) However, I prefer your clips with the Einstein. :) I don't know if it's the speaker, the amp or the volume level but that sound seems to cut through better.
Volume level, guitar, speaker, many aspects. This Rola65 is old, so it might be a bit softer. Surely the Shiva has less treble than the Diezel, so does the Epiphone have less treble than the P91/92 Gibson Special. When I compared my clip to the original, I realised mine has too much bass, probably should have EQ'ed it a bit ...
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Check Jabs' gear when you see them, let us know if he still plays those SLO100s. Still enjoying the SP77?
Is your Shiva the 6l6 or the EL34?
And did you get the reverb one?
Ha - I'm in a weird sort of amp hell at present - a good one that is
Been trading some gear and am having fun too
I love my racks - one has the Soldano preamp, An Engl E530 preamp,Lee Jackson and a Rocktron Pirhana
I also have my ADA rack which has all the modified MP1s and an MP2
But my main Marshall 2205 JCM 800 has been acting up - all it needs is a good service I think , maybe has a faulty relay - or maybe a loose valve base. Will have to get that sorted - wonder about swapping it for a Splawn or Bogner Shiva at times - will have to see.
Also spending way too much time on the SLOclone forum and thinking about making a Soldano SLO of my own.
But I just got a Cornell Romany, which will be nice to try agaainst the Wolftone and also an Atomic amp that lets you insert a POD or whatever into a capsule and use it.
So plenty to mess about with
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Is your Shiva the 6l6 or the EL34?
And did you get the reverb one?
Ha - I'm in a weird sort of amp hell at present - a good one that is
Been trading some gear and am having fun too
Oh don't even get me started, hahaha.
At the moment I got the Diezel Einstein, the Bogner Shiva (of course EL34 and the non-reverb - the reverb is awesome but expensive and volume drops when you switch it on ... which sucks). Also got the VHT Pitbull, which I love again at the moment ha!
Talking of Cornell, have you seen the new Plexi7 yet?
http://www.dc-developments.com/cornell_plexi.htm#Cornell-Plexi%207%20Combo
7/1/0.25 W switchable Class A combo for 645GBP. Tempting tempting ...
Which are your preferred speakers for rock?
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Which are your preferred speakers for rock?
G12H30s 8) I just got a 2nd one for my 2x12, and even though its not broken in yet, it allready sounds a lot better than the Eminence its taken the place of.
btw, this clip is really good. Not as nice as some of your other clips in terms of tone imho, the rhythm sounds a bit "boxy" maybe?
edit - the lead tone and playing is awesome :twisted:
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Which are your preferred speakers for rock?
btw, this clip is really good. Not as nice as some of your other clips in terms of tone imho, the rhythm sounds a bit "boxy" maybe?
Thanks you say that, I found it really good but now as I'm listening again, it indeed lacks some "crunch" ? I think there's too much bass in the recording which might be it. This speaker is new to me and I gotta take some time to find its sweet spot.
The non plus ultra in rhythm tone in here is definitely Steve Stevens RY demo, can't be beaten.
Well that's the fun about the whole thing, the PURSUIT of tone, just having it is not half the fun :lol:
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I'm a bit unconventional as I tend to use S12-150s.
Or better known as Celestion Sidewinders
Have two in my Rivera cab and two Marshall 1912s loaded with them
Very efficient, and very clear - dont hide mistakes at all
Damn loud per watt too - my poor neighbours
Lacks a bit in bass - a trade-off from the high efficiency
They are a bit like a hybrid betweeen a EV and a Celestion
I have a classic 30 in the Wolftone and will be getting a few others to try soon
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That was awesome, Hunter. I was wondering what pickups for Matias' sound, and now I have my answer. You are gonna sell me off a VhII to a Black dog just yet! Always a joy to hear your clips. Don't stop bringin' it
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That was awesome, Hunter. I was wondering what pickups for Matias' sound, and now I have my answer. You are gonna sell me off a VhII to a Black dog just yet! Always a joy to hear your clips. Don't stop bringin' it
Thanks man :o)
I think any BKP pickup from the vintage/vintage hot section can get you that Jabs tone, given you have a mahogany guitar and something like a tubescreamer pedal and something like a marshall amp.
I wouldn't say that the VHIIs could do less a Jabs than the BlackDogs, he does usually play with more treble/less bass than me in this clip, so VHIIs might be as good, depending on what you like. I'd say BlackDogs would be a bit more dirty (awesome for lead playing, but be careful with gain and lower freqs when playing rhythm, see discussion above), VHIIs have more transparency and clarity (great for rhythm but they push back a bit more when you play single note lines).
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AMAZING
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Why do all these Black Dog clips sounds so #$%!& amazing!!
It's the Shiva.
Follow in his footsteps. Do not betray his truth.
;)
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It's the Shiva.
Nahhh, it's all in the fingers, obviously... :D :D :D
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It's the Shiva.
Nahhh, it's all in the fingers, obviously... :D :D :D
In Reinhold Bogner's fingers <rotfl>
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Ha ha - indeed!
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Shiva or not...all clips on the forum recorded with the 'Black Dogs' are freakin' amazing.
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What means the G12-65 ROLA??
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What means the G12-65 ROLA??
It's the speakers
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What means the G12-65 ROLA??
It's a Celestion Speaker. Standard is Celestion Vintage 30 these days. In the 80s, or early 90s most cabs came with G12T75 which have lots of bass and punch but are not very nice for blues or clean sounds. Then there were so called Greenbacks, or G12M25 in earlier days, which are great for Blues or Classic Rock, but don't have the punch. G12-65, which was a model manufactured in a time when Celestion was owned by Rola, they added the Rola label on the speakers, they are set in between G12M25 and G12T75 and are available again these days as a reissue speaker.
The clip was done with an original Marshall JCM800 1x12 Cab of the 80s with a G12-65 Rola speaker.