Bare Knuckle Pickups Forum
Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: Catalyst77 on June 20, 2007, 11:13:09 AM
-
Was seriously considering buying a Les Paul custom; anyone got any tips hints - years to avoid?
There are some really nice silverburst 2007 re-issues, but I kind of had my heart set on someting from the late seventies.
-
tip: don't get a gibson one, lol. Unless yu got money to waste.
My Greco LP custom cost £180, has mahognay body, maple top, mahogany neck, rosewood fretboard, long neck tennon, stock SD '59s, a big fat 50s style neck.
It's a cracker.
-
:D Yamaha pre lawsuit LP rip offs are said to be amongst the best LP`s ever made. Greco are said to be great to. Gibson were so worried at how good these guitars were they took the factorys in Japan to court to have them prevented from being able to make such good & acurate replicas. Check out Ebay & second hand sections of guitar shops.
:D 8)
-
If you got that money to spend, check out Legra or Feline guitars. Will make you something way better with better hardware for the same or less.
Tokai, Edwards, Burny and Greco (to name a few) are also good if you get a good one.
-
tip: don't get a gibson one, lol. Unless yu got money to waste.
My Greco LP custom cost £180, has mahognay body, maple top, mahogany neck, rosewood fretboard, long neck tennon, stock SD '59s, a big fat 50s style neck.
It's a cracker.
Too the words right squaa out of my mouth. To reiterate:
FORGET GIBSON!!
The build quality on a lot (note: not all) of them, even the Customs, is appalling. Take this for example, it's been around for a few years:
(http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j86/Miles_photos/tenon1.jpg)
The shoddy one at the top is an actual example - provided by Gibson themselves - of the neck joint on current Les Pauls. The one at the bottom is on historic models and custom shop (ie, specially made) ones. Note the difference in how much wood is in contact and to think, that's supposed to aid that "legendary" Les Paul sustain.
If you want a Les Paul, I suggest as already said - lawsuit models:
Greco
Burny
Orville
Edwards ESP
Fernandes
Yamaha
You'll pay 3-4 times less and get an all-round better instrument. As long as you don't care about what's on the headstock, you'll scoop a bargain and a half.
In fact, do what I just did as I was typing this (by pure coincidence) - go to eBay and just simply search for "japan" under musical instruments and filter it to show guitars. Behold the bargains!!
-
:D Thanks for that tip Mr Ed i`ll check it out
:D 8)
-
I agree, go for the lawsuit models, I got a beauty for £230. I had a 2002 Gibson les paul custom before, and the lawsuit model blows it out of the water.
Also with the change you can buy two and still equip them with pickups for less than it'd cost to buy a secondhand custom!
-
also look into the lawsuit ibanez les pauls
those things are sexual
same with the explorers
-
the early Jap Tokais are really good value too.
if I had money to spend on a (non Gibson) LP these days I'd be looking very closely at the ESP Edwards line.
:twisted:
-
£180? £230? These are awesome bargains!!
-
Hmm
Any arguments for?
Trying to take a level view point here; as it appears from above that all gibsons are shite always - which I'm sure isnt the case.
I know there have been bad years and dodgy quality issues, but this cant always have been the case; otherwise the whole "kudos" of having a les paul in general would never have come about.
Are we saying that the likes of jimmy page/ john sykes/ zakk wilde would be better off with a jap copy from the 70's?
-
If you want a REALLY good Gibson; to match the quality of the Lawsuit models, nowadays you're going to be having to pay upwards of £2000, which is totally extortionate. The quality of Gibson's guitars hasn't always been in the state it is today; all we're saying there is a lot of far more economical options than spewing the £28,999 for the the 1959 les paul custom on ebay right now. The big famous people you've mentioned are all endorsed by gibson - so will get quality instruments hand made for them for free, to make gibson look good, and people will buy the cheap (£1500) factory replicas...
-
^^^
Zactly.
Of course it's in Gibsons best interests to provide the best quality guitars to the big guys, they're hardly going to give the same treatment to Zakk Wylde, someone who's now synonymous with Les Pauls, as you or I.
It's shitee but that's what happens with the massive companies like that.
-
Not wanting to be funny here but how many of you guys saying not to get a Gibson actually have one.
I wanted one for ages and was put off by all the internet doom merchants. I bought a new standard before xmas and couldn't be happier, no issues with the build quality, I cannot say anything negative about it, it's amazing. I tried a couple of others at the same time and they seemed fine too. I’m sure there are issues with some, the same way there are with any mass produced item. I had one of my Apaches cr@p out on me earlier this year and I think we all know how good BKP are in every department as a company, s**t happens sometimes.
Ultimately it's a separate argument how much more you are getting for your money with a genuine Gibson vs one of the copies, an argument that exists for pretty much every high end guitar manufactures like Fender, PRS etc.
For me the name was a big draw, I am not embarrassed to admit it. I could have probably got an instrument that was 95% the same for about 1/4 of the price but it wouldn't be a Gibson and I would have not been totally happy and still wanted the genuine thing.
If you want a Gibson, for me, there is no reason not to get one.
-
:D Its fair to say that not all LP`s are cr@p. There are good ones out there. I allways pull a LP off of the shelf in 2 of my local guitar shops for a play & to see how they sound. To be honest when setup correctly they play OK but to my ears at least the sound varies. The suggestion of trying to track down a pre lawsuit Jap copy is they by & large again to my ears sound better & the build quality of the 70`s is renowned for being very high as the Gibbo`s were noterious for being very badly made.
Page played early LP`s 58, 59, 60 & 61`s very good build quality & great sounding. Sykes hunted high & low for a decsent sounding LP & your right to point out he found one & yes i think i`m right in saying it`s a 70`s model as well, so there are some good LP`s out there you`ve just got to track`em down.
The suggestion of trying to track down a Jap pre lawsuit is that if as has been admitted your not interested in having the name Gibson on the headstock then there are better, cheaper & better sounding guitars with the single cut shape.
:D 8)
-
Slash has his made by a luthier called "Max".
Gibson used to be good but they are like Marshall now, knocking out pricey gear which isn't top quality like it used to be.
I`m sure Gibson do produce some good guitars but surely the customer shouldn't have to go through 10 les pauls to find a good one they want. They also stopped making lefty guitars.
-
I`m sure Gibson do produce some good guitars but surely the customer shouldn't have to go through 10 les pauls to find a good one they want.
Is that really the case ?
-
I`m sure Gibson do produce some good guitars but surely the customer shouldn't have to go through 10 les pauls to find a good one they want.
Is that really the case ?
Really, really, really, yes.
-
A few Gibson owners I know have had to go through a few instruments to find one that they like. They seem to be very inconsistent with the stuff they produce. Have you seen the picture of a newer Gibson Les Paul standard without the maple cap? It has 9 (yes 9!!) gaping holes in it because Gibson are trying to lower costs etc. From what I`ve heard also, it only costs about $400 - $500 maximum for Gibson to make a Les Paul because they buy in such big bulk. Feline or Legra (not to mention countless other guitar builders) will make you a Les Paul that wipes the floor with a Gibson for about £1700 - £2000. To get a Gibson to those standards think about what would need upgrading. You would need pickups, nut, tuners, swish neck joint (possibly), a new bridge, volume and tone pots and possibly inlays. Plus with them you`d be getting superior customer support and you know your getting a quality instrument that is built with some of the finest materials available and you know that it will be individual to you with lots of love put into the building of it.
I`m not saying all Gibson guitars suck because they don't. I`d love a really old Les Paul but the prices aren't realistic and I`d be worried about taking them on the road. Gibson make great guitars if your name is Zakk Wylde but they aren't gonna make hundreds of mass produced guitars like that are they.
Take it all with a pinch of salt :wink:
-
I lust for a Les Paul Silverburst , we went to see all kind of custom Gibson and Fender guitars while in Atlanta , hand picked, we ended up buying a custom 62 reissue telecaster though. But that Silverburst stood outthere, it has a darkness to it. Holydivers or Crawlers seem the way to go. :wink:
-
I had considered Feline, and still intend on get somethin made,but I liked the idea of a well worn in guitar with a bit of history. Maybe the name does appeal a little bit - even if its just psychological, but to be honest I am impatient person and I dont think I could wait 9 months to have one built! especially as this is a 30th B day present (and unfortunately my 30th b day is not 9 months away!)
-
My Legra has taken only since like March, should be ready anytime soon. We are just sorting the bridge out at the moment. Then I`ll send Bob the final payment (shouldn't lighten my wallet too much!!). They can make you a worn in guitar too. Why not make its history yourself? The guitar may have been round the world twice but surely its better if you went with it!!
-
I used to have a great 72 Les paul custom, it weighed about 8lbs (3.5 kg for all you youngsters), and played great. I worked in a music shop and had my pick of what came in, whihc was how I picked it out. I was young and stupid though and sold it....
Then in 1991 I decided to buy a Custom Plus. I had a friend who worked at Sam Ash in New Jersey and she let me go through all of the ones that they had (about 10). I liked 2 of them and in the end the colour sold me (even though the 'bookmatch' was under the D string instead of between the D & G). I traded it in 1996 for a 1972 reissue black beauty (with the Alnico & P-90), which I still have. Most of my other Les Pauls are all either vintage, or custom built replicas. However in 2000 I found a 1986 limited edition Darkback Goldtop, which is a great guitar (it has a set of PG Blues in it now and sounds incredible). If I could find the 1972 Custom, then I would buy it in a heartbeat, but since I doubt that I will find it, I am thinking of getting a Greco or other Japanese make.
I can also tell you that buying a custom one is well worth it, as you will get exactly what you want and can specify the neck size, weight, nut width, finish, etc.
-
I think this internet gospel of new Gibsons has gotten out of hand - I've played plenty of Gibsons off the rack and have never played a real dog yet. More people should make decisions based on their own thoughts and not popular concensus.
:twisted:
-
Maybe you were lucky HTH?? I`m going by what I have seen in the flesh.
My local guitar shop has LP Standards for sale @ £2500 which is a bit overpriced.
-
tip: don't get a gibson one, lol. Unless yu got money to waste.
My Greco LP custom cost £180, has mahognay body, maple top, mahogany neck, rosewood fretboard, long neck tennon, stock SD '59s, a big fat 50s style neck.
It's a cracker.
Too the words right squaa out of my mouth. To reiterate:
FORGET GIBSON!!
The build quality on a lot (note: not all) of them, even the Customs, is appalling. Take this for example, it's been around for a few years:
(http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j86/Miles_photos/tenon1.jpg)
The shoddy one at the top is an actual example - provided by Gibson themselves - of the neck joint on current Les Pauls. The one at the bottom is on historic models and custom shop (ie, specially made) ones. Note the difference in how much wood is in contact and to think, that's supposed to aid that "legendary" Les Paul sustain.
If you want a Les Paul, I suggest as already said - lawsuit models:
Greco
Burny
Orville
Edwards ESP
Fernandes
Yamaha
You'll pay 3-4 times less and get an all-round better instrument. As long as you don't care about what's on the headstock, you'll scoop a bargain and a half.
In fact, do what I just did as I was typing this (by pure coincidence) - go to eBay and just simply search for "japan" under musical instruments and filter it to show guitars. Behold the bargains!!
That looks like it's been done to adjust the neck angle (the set) to the body to overcome manufacturing tolerances. It's not shoddy it's definitely deliberate.I've never seen anything like it!! Just imagine what that does to the tonal qualities of a "set neck" if only the sides of the neck are glued to the body. A cheap bolt on is gonna sound better.
-
Woah Bob, you lost me there...
Are you saying the top one is better tonally?
-
Maybe you were lucky HTH?? I`m going by what I have seen in the flesh.
My local guitar shop has LP Standards for sale @ £2500 which is a bit overpriced.
are you sure they're standards and not VOS spec or something? - that sounds VERY expensive.
:twisted:
-
It is a stupidly expensive shop, just normal LP standards!! My friend asked "How much for an SG Standard?" and the tit said "Too much for you!!" and then he walked off laughing. 1 minute up the road is a better shop with much better prices and its way more friendly also!!
-
Your friend needs to go back in that shop with guitars hanging of his body; pretty women style.
-
Yeah, I`m gonna take my Legra in when I get it. Whenever we pass we ask how much super expensive guitars are like Gibson Zakk Wylde Les Paul's haha. Theres one ok guy who knew what we meant but he still didn't like hearing the truth!!
-
Woah Bob, you lost me there...
Are you saying the top one is better tonally?
To be frank I wouldn't be proud of either one; look at the voids in the mating surfaces of the bottom one.
What I was refering to was the curved sole on the heel of the top picture. It's definitely (notice the correct spelling of DEFINITELY you lot) a manufacturing feature; probably, in my view, there to facilitate the adjustment of the neck angle. What it also does is reduce the contact area between the neck and the body; something you'd expect to be much better in an instrument with a glued set neck.
-
i haven't tried any of the horror story gibby's that you hear mentioned, but I guess I've been lucky. That being said, none of the ones I've tried have been worth £1500 either.
Needless to say, I'm looking into edwards at the moment... can't really justify £1500 for a custom guitar which isn't really geared towards my main style of music... from what i can tell (though obviously i'll have to wait till i can try it), edwards is exactly what i'm after.
-
I've tried quite a few gibson's in my time (which though isn't a lot, is still enough!) & there have been some lovely Gibsons...but they were all either orignal models ('59's etc) or high end custom shop jobs. I spoke to a guy called Paul Guerin from the quireboys & he recomended that I try a Tokai as it was his main guitar & he loved it & that he didn't want me to spend my money unwisely. I tried one in my local guitar shop to replace my fender that they lost (long story) & it was amazing. Totally thick & wonderfully woody. Yeah It fight's back, but I love that & compared to some of the gibsons not even half as much. I would always recomend that you go for a tokai against a les paul standard anyday of the week
-
Maybe the name does appeal a little bit - even if its just psychological
to me there is nothing wrong with that, everyone does a similar thing everyday reflected in the clothes they wear and car they drive etc etc.
There are 2 questions here,
1) do you want a "Gibson" - if you do then only something with Gibson on the headstock will scratch the itch
2) is there any fundamental reason you shouldn't get one - in my experience, no, nothing over and above what applies to the majority of other guitars. I would recommend you do not mail order, go and try a few. I'm sure you are aware of the different neck profiles but even from an aesthetics point of view. the way a guitar looks is going to affect how you feel about it so make sure you get one you like the look of, the tops do vary quite a bit
let us know how you get on
-
On a slightly difference note, does anybody know of any pre-lawsuit 70's Flying V Copies?
I'd def pick one of those up for a reasonable price.
-
I've played a few Gibsons in shops and was not that impressed. The first Les Paul I played I thought it was terrible. I've had a go on Tims Custom with Cold Sweats and that is very tasty. Felines Les Pauls feel, look and sound fantastic, you can just feel the quality. Personally I could never buy anything let alone a guitar on what the name is. It's actually got to be quality in your opinion. I spent years trying out amps until i found one i liked and i bought that purely on how it sounded not what injection moulded plastic badge it had on it.
Also my car is shitee and I buy corpses trousers in charity shops! :wink:
-
I feel it's only fair to say when Gibson get it right they really get it right.
That being said I've found that the lawsuit copys and for that matter most quality oriental guitars (Yamaha, Tokai, ESP, Ibanez) are far more consitant in terms of build quality.
It all comes down to brand identity vs sound, do you want to look good or sound good. (check your underpants, if they say "Calvin Klein" or "Tesco" your choices may be clear :D )
-
Maybe the name does appeal a little bit - even if its just psychological
to me there is nothing wrong with that, everyone does a similar thing everyday reflected in the clothes they wear and car they drive etc etc.
If lots of people do something stupid, it doesn't make it any less stupid. What you're saying is that it's okay to be a tool and pay thousands for a name that used to stand for quality, because everybody else does. Gibson are laughing.
BTW I'm not having a go - this is just something i have a strong opinion on. Obviously it's your right to pay what you want for what you want
-
There is somewhere on the net that makes replica Gibson necks but replacing a set neck Les Paul isn't really worth it for the logo imo.
-
Some interesting and enlightening reading about Gibson.
http://www.dinosaurrockguitar.com/interviews/MrX.shtml 8)
-
Maybe the name does appeal a little bit - even if its just psychological
to me there is nothing wrong with that, everyone does a similar thing everyday reflected in the clothes they wear and car they drive etc etc.
If lots of people do something stupid, it doesn't make it any less stupid. What you're saying is that it's okay to be a tool and pay thousands for a name that used to stand for quality, because everybody else does. Gibson are laughing.
BTW I'm not having a go - this is just something i have a strong opinion on. Obviously it's your right to pay what you want for what you want
yeah, I think the point I was trying to make was if having the name Gibson on the headstock is important then I can understand why.
-
I've tried quite a few gibson's in my time (which though isn't a lot, is still enough!) & there have been some lovely Gibsons...but they were all either orignal models ('59's etc) or high end custom shop jobs. I spoke to a guy called Paul Guerin from the quireboys & he recomended that I try a Tokai as it was his main guitar & he loved it & that he didn't want me to spend my money unwisely. I tried one in my local guitar shop to replace my fender that they lost (long story) & it was amazing. Totally thick & wonderfully woody. Yeah It fight's back, but I love that & compared to some of the gibsons not even half as much. I would always recomend that you go for a tokai against a les paul standard anyday of the week
Tokai's are ace as are Burny's and Grecos. My Gibson Les Paul is the least reliable guitar out of all of my axes, certainly would not gig it without backup...
I had to rewire the damn thing, my Korean PRS SE has better tuners etc etc :x I'm never buying Gibson again, unless its cheap as chips...OR Custom Shop ...but for that money you can go custom built from a quality luthier in the UK.
-
Some interesting and enlightening reading about Gibson.
http://www.dinosaurrockguitar.com/interviews/MrX.shtml 8)
that was excellent, thanks!
-
Some interesting and enlightening reading about Gibson.
http://www.dinosaurrockguitar.com/interviews/MrX.shtml 8)
I enjoyed that - thanks for the Link Bird
I often get to play a great guitar that is brought into the workshop and am pleasantly surprised to see that it isn't one of the high price brand.
Just a guitar where all the pieces go together to produce a great mix of sustain, tone & sound.
Sometimes they may just need a good set up (as do many high end Fenders, Gibsons etc etc) and maybe the hardware and electronics might be improved upon, but the raw acoustic sound is just right from the start.
We currently have such a guitar in for set-up - it's a £129 Squier Affinity strat.
It's a real beauty and makes you want to play.
It does seem odd to be trying to tell the customer that upgrading to a higher price guitar with a big brand name wont necessarily be an upgrade and that he might be better off sticking with the Squier (maybe stick a set of BKPs in). I fear that his wish to impress his mates or feel that he has moved up in the world will lead him to blindly go and buy a NAME guitar without necessarily finding one that just sings in his hands.
Oh - I have played many Fenders and Gibsons that have been fantastic, but am just making the point that budget price guitars can be great too.
It's like the wood when it was still part of a tree didn't know if it would end up as a PRS, Fender, Gibson or as a Squier, Cort , Epiphone or even as a table leg, chair or chopsticks.
As a custom builder I strive to find woods that will be lively and work well together . I think this is also true for most custom guys (guys like Bob at Legra, Nathan Sheppard and Doug at Black Machine too..... and all the ones who I havent listed here)
-
On a slightly difference note, does anybody know of any pre-lawsuit 70's Flying V Copies?
I'd def pick one of those up for a reasonable price.
ibanez. IMO .. though i cant recollect how the necks on those things were.
-
Some interesting and enlightening reading about Gibson.
http://www.dinosaurrockguitar.com/interviews/MrX.shtml 8)
that dude DOES have some valid points.. but he's very very grumpy about it
-
I bought a 1980 Greco Super Real last week and it's pretty good. The prices for all the '78 to '83 jap guitars have been rising slowly for about five years as far as I can make out, and such a guitar, which is still cheaper than a secondhand LP Standard, would make a better investment than a new Gibson or a totally 'custom' Les Paul, if you get the right one.
Check out japanguitars.co.uk to see just how much some people are selling vintage jap stuff for...most people agree this guy's charging really top-whack prices, yet his guitars still sell within weeks. I noticed about a month ago he raised the price of one of his less popular guitars he'd had hanging around for months by £150, and it then sold within a couple of weeks. I think you can draw your own conclusions from that!
Remember too though - and I'm trying not to sound corny here - that every guitar is different no matter who it's made by. This is something I've finally realised after years spent on internet forums taking advice from people who say 'this guitar make is better than that one', and is partly the reason why this is my first post on this forum for weeks.
Nobody makes totally rubbish guitars these days.
If I could go through the LP buying process again, I'd take my mate's advice and just go to Denmark St and try out 30 Les Pauls and buy a genuinely 'flukey' special one, instead of hedging my bets on one guitar by one maker which the guitar forum community says is really good.
He went through the Denmark St process for a Strat, and ended up with the most ridiculously resonant (for no apparent reason) strat I've ever played. The whole thing shakes and feels like it's about to self destruct, while at the same time feeling completely solid. It's amazing. It cost him a grand second hand, but we played about half a dozen other custom shop strats in that shop which cost a lot more money, and they all felt dead in comparison.
If you're really bothered about getting an above average guitar, which you probably are if you've gone to the effort of asking on a forum, just try as many guitars as you can and wait 'til you find one that feels great to you.
-
Double post, I'm out of practise :lol:
-
I had considered Feline, and still intend on get somethin made,but I liked the idea of a well worn in guitar with a bit of history. Maybe the name does appeal a little bit - even if its just psychological, but to be honest I am impatient person and I dont think I could wait 9 months to have one built! especially as this is a 30th B day present (and unfortunately my 30th b day is not 9 months away!)
Ben welcome to my world!!!
BTW, a couple of interesting coincidenses for Wide World of Webbing.
1) Your name is Ben. Thats my sons name.
2) you turn 30 this year. Same as me.
3) your looking to buy a Gibson Les Paul for a 30th present to yourself. Me too!
and here is the Killer....
4) you really want a Silverburst. Same here!
Mate have you been following me. I know I live on another continent but man this is just freaky.
I have not bothered with posting the same type of post as this before as I, well kinda know just about everyone 'round here hates gibbo's . :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
I do have to agree with some people about inconsistency issues. I spent ages trying out some Les Pauls in a major "supermarket" type music shop.
They had about 15 LP's and some of the detail work was pretty Lousy. The Binding on the neck of a LP classic had "shrunk" into the grain.
anyway keep us posted. I started looking at the GT range as I'm a bit of a sucker for the classic car Hotrod era.
*edit*
I just re-read that in your first post you have seen some reissues of the Silverburst. I just looked through gibson.com and cant see that referred to. care to share a link?
-
I think the LP Silverbursts were part of the GUitar of the Week series, the SGs certainly were...
-
Great article Bird, thanks. Jp there's an store in Atlanta (midtown music ), that has 2 Silverburst from the batch of 40 made( that's front , back and neck )like the originals.
-
I have 4 Les Pauls and like all of them. I also have 2 Charvels made in Japan and these are more "perfect" than the Gibson's i.e. no file marks or signs of a human having made them.
It's all up to personal taste. Having grown up seeing people play Gibsons and Fenders I want one. I am sure the copies today are as good or better than all of the big names. But if Bare Knuckle switched manufacture to China and flooded Woolworths with pickups would everybody here still feel the same about them????????? Even if quality was exactly the same.
Andy
-
Jp
At least I'm not alone in this apparent madness!
Seems the only place you can find a silverburst is on ebay, problem there is obviously you can try before you buy - enhancing the possibility of getting a turkey. - Most of them are from the US too.
The earlier link to that les paul article was very interesting though, however I'm now paranoid about buying any les paul that does not weigh beween 8-9lbs.
On a seperate note - saw Aerosmith last night at Hyde Park Joe perry only used a les paul for a couple of songs - and it wasn't his boneyard signature model!
-
I just read through that interview. Good reading but when he says "a pretty finish sells a guitar quicker than tone"
My eyes shot over to my Desert yellow ibanez...... :lol: :lol:
-
^ haha, ditto, my ibanez rg is glittery pink/purple. even when i was brand new to playing, i (luckily) had the good sense to buy a guitar based on its tone and playability.
shame i didn't have the same sense about amps, though. :oops:
-
I've done a bit of scouring over the internet and it seems the likelihood of getting my hands on a sweet piece of gibson ass is pretty remote, unless I can sit down in a shop and try a few hundred. Thats seeming very unlikely as they only made silverburst customs for about 3 years i've decided against the ego boosting gibson name.
It also seems that epiphones are even worse! I think balsa wood and glue was one description i came across. Saying that I have two epi's and the difference in quality between them is massive.
In order to satisfy my lust of the silverburst I've decided to get a feeline custom build - hopefully with the oxidised silverburst colour - based on the specs of the les paul custom.
In addition to have something to play for my 30th my girlfried has purchased me a lovely Greco 1983 mint series black beauty custom. Long neck tennon and all. And it only cost £240 with shipping!
Sweeeet!
Any suggestions for a Bareknuckle three pickup combo?
-
Be careful with the 3PUPs, some people complain of finding them a bit arsey to play because - when picking - you hit the middle pickup. I think they look great but I don't see the point in the 3rd pickup to be totally honest.
WARNING! THIS LINK CONTAINS FILTHY ARTICLES OF GIBSON-REPLICA GUITAR PORN BY EDWARDS! (http://musical-instruments.search.ebay.co.uk/edwards_Guitars_W0QQ_trksidZm37QQcatrefZC12QQcoactionZcompareQQcoentrypageZsearchQQcopagenumZ1QQflocZ1QQfromZR10QQfsooZ1QQfsopZ1QQftrtZ1QQftrvZ1QQga10244Z10425QQsabfmtsZ1QQsacatZ3858QQsaobfmtsZinsifQQsaprchiZQQsaprcloZQQsaslcZ2)
Fit.
-
I know what you mean about the middle pick up getting in the way.
But since I'm having one custom built and I already own two epis (which I'll prob sell) i wanted something a little different.
Plus I'm a weirdo when it comes to pickup wiring. I have all my pickups wired to volume. This means I can effectively have all three pickups on in the middle position and them blend them all together for that sweet sweet spot.
-
Yey there is one lefty LP in that link!! $769 or something..
-
Yey there is one lefty LP in that link!! $769 or something..
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/LEFTY-Edwards-ESP-LP-CTM-Black-DUNCAN-PU-S-NEW_W0QQitemZ120136819882QQihZ002QQcategoryZ33038QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
-
Yep, thats what I was looking at!! I don't need another LP custom for a while though.
-
I had considered Feline, and still intend on get somethin made,but I liked the idea of a well worn in guitar with a bit of history. Maybe the name does appeal a little bit - even if its just psychological, but to be honest I am impatient person and I dont think I could wait 9 months to have one built! especially as this is a 30th B day present (and unfortunately my 30th b day is not 9 months away!)
I got a gibson that was well worn in, 600 off of ebay, for the model before the studio. slightly more features etc. has the character with some mods that happened in the 80s. and it plays very nice. better than epiphones 'custom shop' for a start atleast
-
better than epiphones 'custom shop' for a start atleast
epiphone don't have a custom shop :? and if you're talking about the elitist range; they OWN the US gibsons as far as I'm concerned.
-
better than epiphones 'custom shop' for a start atleast
epiphone don't have a custom shop :? and if you're talking about the elitist range; they OWN the US gibsons as far as I'm concerned.
Epiphone do have a Custom Shop line - it produces limited editions such as my '65 SG with vibrola, and the John Sykes Les Paul Custom etc. They're all made in Korea.
The Japanese Epiphones are called the Elistist range.
-
ooo i stand corrected. i never knew that!
-
the zakk wylde models are in it too apparently
according to the stamp on the headstock anywya
-
meh....I have a 2003 standard (in avatar) plays great...sounds great...never had any problems with it, I have played many a terrible gibson, but this one surely is not one of them. I wouldnt say skip over gibson completley..I would however recommend playing it alot before buying it if at all possible.
-
Dont let the model number put you off but I got an old 1976 Yamaha SG for sale - it's more like a Les Paul with twin cut aways - this one is loaded with Mules too:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Vintage-Yamaha-SG1500-SG-1500-with-Bare-Knuckle-Pickups_W0QQitemZ130139740044QQihZ003QQcategoryZ33049QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem