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Forum Ringside => Pickups => Topic started by: wintersun on June 25, 2007, 09:18:13 PM

Title: Air Norton and BK question
Post by: wintersun on June 25, 2007, 09:18:13 PM
I was wondering. Which BK pickup would be most similar to DiMarzio's Air Norton in NECK position? My guess is that it would be the NAILBOMB, am I right?
Title: Air Norton and BK question
Post by: TwilightOdyssey on June 25, 2007, 09:43:55 PM
Sorry, I don't know the answer to this question, but if memory serves, it has come up quite recently. You might want to try the search function.
Title: Air Norton and BK question
Post by: JamesHealey on June 26, 2007, 11:40:25 AM
Cold Sweat!!!!!!! It's like the Air Norton but better!
Title: Air Norton and BK question
Post by: dave_mc on June 26, 2007, 03:05:00 PM
^ now you mention it, mine does feel/sound a wee bit like the AN. Best to take this with a pinch of salt though, i certainly haven't tried them head to head.
Title: Air Norton and BK question
Post by: wintersun on June 26, 2007, 08:02:07 PM
Well, I don't know why, maybe it's my ear, but i don't think air norton has so much highs in it. And so I checked the specifications on dimarzio.com:

treble 5
mid 7
bass 6.5

Cold sweat kinda sounds too scooped to be compared with Air norton, IMHO. But maybe I'm wrong?
Title: Air Norton and BK question
Post by: Johnny Mac on June 26, 2007, 08:12:01 PM
Quote from: dave_mc
^ now you mention it, mine does feel/sound a wee bit like the AN. Best to take this with a pinch of salt though, i certainly haven't tried them head to head.


Am I reading this correctly David? You have a Cold Sweat?

I need to lie down!
 :wink:
 :lol:
Title: Air Norton and BK question
Post by: sambo on June 26, 2007, 09:19:18 PM
^+1..... well-observed!!! i scrolled straight past that...


surely dave.... .... surely not..?  :o  :lol:
Title: Air Norton and BK question
Post by: pagan7 on June 26, 2007, 09:35:55 PM
Can only compare the AN on my LP copy with the Naibombs on my RGT...so not a direct comparison..though both are mahogany bodied....one with a glued neck and one with a through neck..but..I'd say there was no doubt that th NB neck pup is way beyond anything the AN can do...its just got more of everything, even though on paper the spec might look similar.
The only time I got the NB neck sounding anything like an AN was when I was experimenting with pup height and had it screwed right down almost flat to the pup surround about 6mm from the strings when fretted at the 24th fret.
So I guess I'm saying that the AN sounds a bit like a NB that's not close enough to the strings  :wink:
Title: Air Norton and BK question
Post by: Peter Antal on June 26, 2007, 10:17:28 PM
Quote from: pagan7
So I guess I'm saying that the AN sounds a bit like a NB that's not close enough to the strings  :wink:

The magnetic field of the Air Norton is weaker than that of regular Alnico V 'buckers thanks to the 'airbucker' trick (small spacers between the magnet and the polepieces), so it could indeed result in a softer attack and less focused sound, as if the pickup was lower under the strings. :)
Title: Air Norton and BK question
Post by: ericsabbath on June 27, 2007, 04:22:06 AM
cold sweat is not as hot as air norton and is voiced different
it's a little scooped, like a paf and it's dc resistance is 8.35k, like air classic, not air norton
but it's plenty of fluid sustain for soloing, the best cleans i've heard (a lot better then my miracle man neck) e and it's tight enough even to play neck rhythm

but maybe the nailbomb could sound closer to air norton
Title: Air Norton and BK question
Post by: dave_mc on June 27, 2007, 06:52:37 PM
Quote from: Johnny Mac
Quote from: dave_mc
^ now you mention it, mine does feel/sound a wee bit like the AN. Best to take this with a pinch of salt though, i certainly haven't tried them head to head.


Am I reading this correctly David? You have a Cold Sweat?

I need to lie down!
 :wink:
 :lol:


haha, yeah, my legra came in on saturday. miracle man, too. I was impressed i got BKP's before i hit 3000 posts...

 :lol:

Quote from: wintersun
Well, I don't know why, maybe it's my ear, but i don't think air norton has so much highs in it. And so I checked the specifications on dimarzio.com:

treble 5
mid 7
bass 6.5

Cold sweat kinda sounds too scooped to be compared with Air norton, IMHO. But maybe I'm wrong?


my cold sweat sounds very warm. that might be the fact it's in a mahogany/maple neck thru guitar though. From what i remember of the AN, it was very warm too. It is a while since I've tried it, though, so as i said previously, take anything i say on the matter with a pinch of salt, lol.
Title: Air Norton and BK question
Post by: Johnny Mac on June 27, 2007, 08:14:12 PM
Sounds nice Dave! What's the new guitar like?
Title: Air Norton and BK question
Post by: dave_mc on June 27, 2007, 11:49:35 PM
^ very nice, jonny, thanks for asking! it's a really nice feeling to get something you specced- i'm sure you're looking forward to your feline too (if it hasn't arrived yet!)!

i'll make a thread in a day or two. I took some pics today, so now i just have to write the thread.

 :lol:

:drink:
Title: Air Norton and BK question
Post by: Johnny Mac on June 28, 2007, 05:53:36 PM
Quote from: dave_mc
^ very nice, jonny, thanks for asking! it's a really nice feeling to get something you specced- i'm sure you're looking forward to your feline too (if it hasn't arrived yet!)!

i'll make a thread in a day or two. I took some pics today, so now i just have to write the thread.

 :lol:

:drink:


Nice one Dave,I bet you have the silly grin factor! Looks very well made. The MM is mad pickup isn't it, i bet it sounds good through your Engl. Look forward to hearing about what you think of your new axe!

Mine is still being made which is ok as I'm still saving to pay it off but I think of it every day!
Title: Air Norton and BK question
Post by: dave_mc on June 28, 2007, 06:24:24 PM
^ yeah, the MM is great! definitely silly grin time! haven't been able to crank the engl since i got it, but i've had it louder than bedroom volume, and it sounds great!

:drink:

EDIT: sorry for the hijack!  :oops: :drink: