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Forum Ringside => Players => Topic started by: Twinfan on July 03, 2007, 07:40:38 PM

Title: P-90, Mule and Riff Raff clips through my Matamp Little Rock
Post by: Twinfan on July 03, 2007, 07:40:38 PM

Right, straight off I apologise for the sloppy playing.  I'm knackered and not really in the mood tonight, but I promised Little Rock and BKP clips so here they are.

The chain is:

guitar -> Little Rock -> Marshall 2x12 with V30s -> cheapo recording gear (sorry   :oops:)

The amp is only at "living room" levels so you don't get that power valve oomph and the V30s sound shrill and brittle.  I've cut the treble way back to compensate but it still sounds a bit clean and shrill.  However, you'll get the general idea of the tone.

First up - my Les Paul Junior Lite with P90s.  Bridge pickup for The Feeling tune, both pickups for the Beatles and the neck pickup for Hendrix:

Title: P-90, Mule and Riff Raff clips through my Matamp Little Rock
Post by: Twinfan on July 03, 2007, 07:43:41 PM

Next up, my Les Paul Standard with Mules.  Bridge pickup throughout.

Title: P-90, Mule and Riff Raff clips through my Matamp Little Rock
Post by: Twinfan on July 03, 2007, 07:45:35 PM

Finally, my SG with Riff Raffs.  Bridge pickup throughout again.

Title: P-90, Mule and Riff Raff clips through my Matamp Little Rock
Post by: WezV on July 03, 2007, 07:56:58 PM

Thanks for that twinfan - good to actually hear a little rock since i still have around 3 weeks (all being well) untill mine turns up

Title: P-90, Mule and Riff Raff clips through my Matamp Little Rock
Post by: Twinfan on July 03, 2007, 08:00:22 PM

No probs Wez.  The trouble I have with my clips is that I just end up sounding like me and not showing the gear off very well  :(

Title: P-90, Mule and Riff Raff clips through my Matamp Little Rock
Post by: WezV on July 03, 2007, 08:42:17 PM

its good enough to get me exited about my matamp.  

I will try and get some clips of my little rock when it comes with one of my BKP equipped guitars and probably some of my pedals i have made as well - depending how they react with the amp.

It wont be me playing though, i spend too much time making stuff - then on bloody forums, very little time left to practice.

Title: Little Rock
Post by: Tellboy on July 03, 2007, 09:09:03 PM

Thanks for those clips Twinfan. Much more my tone than the Minimat which I could not really get on with without swamping it with pedals which I don't like doing. Also the Little Rock seems to be equally at home with SC and humbuckers - I got some reasonable SC coil sounds with the Minimat but didn't like the HB sounds.

Title: P-90, Mule and Riff Raff clips through my Matamp Little Rock
Post by: Twinfan on July 03, 2007, 10:13:19 PM

It's at home with everything!  I'm struggling to get it to sound really good at lower volumes with my Les Paul and lots of gain though, so I should really use a pedal.  It seems to work best at low to mid gain settings where every guitar I have seems to really shine.  Too much pre-amp gain with a low master volume and you get a bit of the bee in a jam jar problem, but that's only to be expected.  With a bit of power tube overdrive thrown in it sounds really thick, but I can't crank it that loud at home!

Title: P-90, Mule and Riff Raff clips through my Matamp Little Rock
Post by: Ted on July 03, 2007, 11:18:07 PM

Sounds great to me. Really nice P90 tones.

Title: P-90, Mule and Riff Raff clips through my Matamp Little Rock
Post by: Twinfan on July 04, 2007, 09:36:52 AM

Thanks Ted, I'm loving the P-90s.  I think I've finally found "my tone".  I always thought I was a P-90 person, but after having P-100s and a hot P90 (Mississippi Queen) I thought I was wrong.  Turns out I needed vintage spec P-90s for that clean, full yet dirty sound.  The Les Paul Junior Lite is a cracker too - funny how things just work out right sometimes isn't it?

Title: P-90, Mule and Riff Raff clips through my Matamp Little Rock
Post by: sgmypod on July 05, 2007, 03:29:44 PM

nice think I need a second amp *L*..love the 'dc

Title: P-90, Mule and Riff Raff clips through my Matamp Little Rock
Post by: Twinfan on July 05, 2007, 03:43:22 PM

Thanks mate.  I have real trouble playing anything other than 'DC convincingly at the moment.  That's what happens when you play in a 'DC band I guess   :roll:

Title: P-90, Mule and Riff Raff clips through my Matamp Little Rock
Post by: indysmith on July 05, 2007, 04:59:28 PM

clips sound really nice, but i can't help but wander what it would sound like with EL84s in it? Surely for a more classic rock sound EL84s would have been more suitable; breaking up easier than 6V6s?

Title: P-90, Mule and Riff Raff clips through my Matamp Little Rock
Post by: dave_mc on July 05, 2007, 09:46:32 PM

Quote from: Twinfan

Thanks mate.  I have real trouble playing anything other than 'DC convincingly at the moment.  That's what happens when you play in a 'DC band I guess   :roll:

i thought the non-DC clips were great, lol. Really nice playing, and nice feel.

the amp sounded pretty nice too (as did the pickups). I think i liked the p90 clips best.

:drink:

Title: P-90, Mule and Riff Raff clips through my Matamp Little Rock
Post by: Twinfan on July 05, 2007, 09:56:21 PM

Thanks Dave.  I love the P90 and Matamp combination.  I've just been playing my Les Paul through the "fat clean" setting on the Little Rock with a Maxon OD-9 - it really works well giving that hot and compressed tone.  What a cracking amp!

It doesn't like my Box of Rock though   :(

Title: P-90, Mule and Riff Raff clips through my Matamp Little Rock
Post by: Ted on July 06, 2007, 09:46:29 AM

Quote from: Twinfan

Thanks Dave.  I love the P90 and Matamp combination.  I've just been playing my Les Paul through the "fat clean" setting on the Little Rock with a Maxon OD-9 - it really works well giving that hot and compressed tone.  What a cracking amp!

It doesn't like my Box of Rock though   :(

Matamps dont like pedals which emulate other amps, as I discovered very quickly with my SansAmp TRI Ac  :cry:

Title: P-90, Mule and Riff Raff clips through my Matamp Little Rock
Post by: Twinfan on July 06, 2007, 09:54:23 AM

Yeah, it's strange Ted.  The tone goes all buzzy and flabby.  On the other hand, my Laney Klipps love the BoR but they stay pretty clean up to half volume.

I think the trouble with some pedals is that they work best with a clean or very nearly clean tone.  The Little Rock has crunch even at low gain settings on the clean settings so a pedal that needs a really clean tone sounds pretty pants.

The Tubescreamer works really well though, and my Marshall Guv'nor wasn't actually that bad either (if a little fizzy).  I'm finding I'm using the Clean setting more than the Drive, as it just sounds sooooooooo good!

Title: P-90, Mule and Riff Raff clips through my Matamp Little Rock
Post by: ericsabbath on July 06, 2007, 01:04:39 PM

damn good clips, man  :P

Title: P-90, Mule and Riff Raff clips through my Matamp Little Rock
Post by: DeanS on July 06, 2007, 01:40:29 PM

Yeah, thanks for that! I've now gotta go and buy another amp!! :shock:  :lol:

Title: P-90, Mule and Riff Raff clips through my Matamp Little Rock
Post by: dave_mc on July 06, 2007, 04:13:01 PM

Quote from: Twinfan

Thanks Dave.  I love the P90 and Matamp combination.  I've just been playing my Les Paul through the "fat clean" setting on the Little Rock with a Maxon OD-9 - it really works well giving that hot and compressed tone.  What a cracking amp!

It doesn't like my Box of Rock though   :(

yeah, the soundclips with the p90's just sounded right.

interesting that it doesn't like the box of rock, but i guess that's always the way, some amps match some stompboxes and not others...

Title: P-90, Mule and Riff Raff clips through my Matamp Little Rock
Post by: WezV on July 06, 2007, 04:39:44 PM

Quote from: DeanS

Yeah, thanks for that! I've now gotta go and buy another amp!! :shock:  :lol:

at least its well priced - i ordered mine 1 1/2 weeks ago, the wait is the hardest part

Title: P-90, Mule and Riff Raff clips through my Matamp Little Rock
Post by: indysmith on July 02, 2008, 11:29:14 AM

Re-listening to these clips, I like them now a whole lot more than I used to.
Perhaps my tastes have matured, or perhaps I'm just beginning to 'get' 6V6s.

Title: P-90, Mule and Riff Raff clips through my Matamp Little Rock
Post by: Twinfan on July 02, 2008, 11:47:58 AM

I'll have to do some more now I can do them 'properly'...

Title: P-90, Mule and Riff Raff clips through my Matamp Little Rock
Post by: Johnny Mac on July 02, 2008, 06:29:02 PM

Nice tones. Very convincing acdc tone

Title: P-90, Mule and Riff Raff clips through my Matamp Little Rock
Post by: kevincurtis on July 03, 2008, 09:15:10 AM

Quote from: Johnny Mac

Nice tones. Very convincing acdc tone

+1 to that, liked the DC a lot...but favourite was the p90, which is good cos that's what will be going in my tele project.

Nice clips fella :)

Title: P-90, Mule and Riff Raff clips through my Matamp Little Rock
Post by: Twinfan on July 03, 2008, 09:30:52 AM

I've just listened back to these and they're pretty rough aren't they?  Sorry   :oops:  Playing is a sloppy as hell, I must have recorded them late at night.

The 'DC one sounds not bad actually, and really shows the Riff Raffs off well.

Title: P-90, Mule and Riff Raff clips through my Matamp Little Rock
Post by: Johnny Mac on July 03, 2008, 05:20:18 PM

It wasn't sloppy, I thought it was good.

You can really hear the differences between the different pups with this setup
The riff raffs sound excellent!

Title: P-90, Mule and Riff Raff clips through my Matamp Little Rock
Post by: FernandoDuarte on July 04, 2008, 02:02:38 AM

Amazing tones!

Title: P-90, Mule and Riff Raff clips through my Matamp Little Rock
Post by: Twinfan on July 04, 2008, 08:39:03 AM

Err, I wouldn't go that far, but thanks Fernando!

Title: P-90, Mule and Riff Raff clips through my Matamp Little Rock
Post by: hunter on July 04, 2008, 05:20:19 PM

Cool tones!

Is there something wrong with your band website? It doesn't seem to go anywhere ...?

Title: P-90, Mule and Riff Raff clips through my Matamp Little Rock
Post by: Twinfan on July 04, 2008, 05:39:16 PM

It's still being built Hunter.  I've just put up a front page for now  ;)