Bare Knuckle Pickups Forum
Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: Hell Hound on July 03, 2007, 09:07:10 PM
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In search for a low wattage head I was browsing the Laney website and came accross this:
(http://www.laney.co.uk/images/products/zoom/l20h.png) (http://www.laney.co.uk/show_prod.php?prod=l20h)
Power RMS 20 Watts
Inputs 2x Jack, Hi & Lo
Channels Clean & Drive
Equalisation Passive Bass, Middle and Treble
Bright Switch Yes
Preamp Valves 3x 12ax7
Output Valves 4x EL84
Class Class A
Reverb Yes
Footswitch FS2 (Included)
Speaker connections 3x Jacks
FX Loop(s) Yes
Impedance 4, 8 and 16 ohm
Baffle Marine Grade Plywood
Cabinet Design Marine Grade Plywood cabinet with retro banding strip, leather strap handle.
Weight 17 Kg
Dimensions (mm) 250 x 559 x 250
Channel Controls Gain (Clean), Gain & Volume (Drive)
Master Section Global EQ, Reverb and Tone controls[/list:u]
Those looks nice, seems to be new, and from the samples seems to sound quite nice. 20w is my perfect power ratting to run it almost full blast on reharsal (like 7 on the master) I just wonder how it'll does metal with a good clean boost or OD :twisted:
I always fancyed those low wattage vintage amps, ironicaly I'm somewhat of a metal head. Do you think it'll do the "vintage" high gain Opeth sound with an OD? Or should I be better of with an Orange Tiny Terror? (you know the toaster wich makes your wallpaper fall of the wall :lol: )
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Well, Opeth do use the all valve Laneys, albeit the slightly more modern ones. I think it'd probably get close, especially with a high quality OD pedal in front.
Oddly, although I've been a Laney user my entire playing career, in my search for a new amp they just aren't figuring at all. Dunno why.
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let me tell you something about this amp
AMAZING sound. afghan dave and me ran it through a couple of paces at the LGS. real rock machine. it can play jazz cleans (as again, afghan dave can atest to, since we spent way too long listening a jazz dude play through it) without a pinch, turn it up, you got paul gilbert in a box. put a drive in front and yea it will do opeth (as pretty much any modern laney will, to some extent), but only for recording. if you intend to play any mid and more sized gigs, forget it, it will run out of power. use a clean boost for solos too, preferably.
but for practice, recording, home and small pub gigs, it would do real good.
i really liked it.
now to the amp in a lunchbox.. COMPLETE ripoff. inferior construction, made in china, questionable components, not to mention the already mentioned lunch box cab. for that money you will be not just treated better, but will have a MILLION (and this is an uderstatement) times better product, if you buy the MatAmp Little Rock. for the same price you get TOP quality components, UK handmade and top customer service.
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Thx for the review, I'm totaly in love with the look and feature of this L20R. If it sounds as good as it seems I'm buying one, no hesitation. for the power problem, well, it won't be a problem. First I plan on using a 2x12" (still hesitating on a TT or an Earcandy) with G12 Century (wich I already have) wich are freakin loud (102Db sensitivity). Then if I ever need more power I could still run the thing miced through the PA.
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Anyone know where the Lionheart is made? England?
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My amp (a TF300) was Brit-made, but it's 8 years old now. Best guess would be British made, but with the number of Brit manufacturers having stuff built abroad now, hard to say for sure.
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Anyone know where the Lionheart is made? England?
I think they are PTP hand wired in good ol' Birmingham.
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Those use gold plated PCB, it seems they're made in England with a hand stamped 'build number'. I'll mail them :)
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Using those high sensitivity Celestion Century speakers will make that amp seem alot louder than 'only' 20w, I think it'll see you fine.
I also think that 20w is a very conservative power rating for a quad of EL84s too - maybe Laney are quoting clean output ???
:twisted:
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it's a special design, basicaly you have 4x 5w single ended EL84 poweramps running in parralel. So you keep that single ended class A sound (I love that tone) but with more power. Superb idea!
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Dear god, for some reason i'd dissmissed these amp's, biggest mistake of my life....
I've just been listening to the clips on the laney website, it sounds like this machine can do just about every sound i've wanted, a decent clean tone, a qotsa-style crunch (track 4) a vai-style lead tone (track 3) and a big american crunch tone (track 2) AND at bedroom levels with only minor attenuation required...
...and their blue! a very bedroom friendly colour.
I'm going to guess they used the head version for the clips :) davey, is the tone/sound pretty close to what you heard at LGS?
So, how much? :D
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The 20W head is £450 new. Not bad imo especially as competitors like Marshall 2061x, Cornford etc are much more expensive.
I didn't know they had soundclips now they didn't have one last time I checked. Can't listen to it now but I'll have a listen later at home. Ive always been very curious about these amps.
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I know it's not important... but what a bloody stupid name. It reminds me so much of "Lisa Lionheart" from The Simpsons.
Sounds like an attempt to be overly English to me...
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i remember it to be a bit crunchier... but i did test it with my charvel with a warpig/trilogy
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I know it's not important... but what a bloody stupid name. It reminds me so much of "Lisa Lionheart" from The Simpsons.
Sounds like an attempt to be overly English to me...
reminds me of squall lionheart off final fantasy VIII
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These amps are in Guitarist magazine this month, with a demo on the CD. They sound great and get a top review.
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cool beans looks like a great format.. 20w EL84 amps are somewhat special.
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I was gonna get one of the Lionheart cabs to go with my GH as they have great specs, but the RRP was something like £450 which seems excessive when you could get a good 4x12 or something for about that.
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It's the speakers upping the price a bit. They have the Heritage G12Hs in them - twice the price of the regular G12Hs.