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Forum Ringside => Pickups => Topic started by: maxter on July 12, 2007, 10:47:00 AM

Title: Wrong spacing
Post by: maxter on July 12, 2007, 10:47:00 AM
Damn! I installed my Nailbomb in my Ibanez S1220 yesterday, haven't restrung it yet, but today I was just checking it out and it just hit me, I took the ruler out and compared it to the QM2 that was once sitting there and yep, sure enough, the original pickup is 50mm, whereas I ordered a 53mm Nailbomb. shite! How much of a difference will this make? I've soldered it in place and all, the box it came with is a little tortured and the strings have already been used on another guitar. Is it worth sending it back for a 50mm?
Title: Wrong spacing
Post by: Philly Q on July 12, 2007, 10:52:16 AM
I thought the S1220 had a Floyd :?:, in which case I'd be very surprised if the 53mm spacing doesn't match.

Have you actually got it strung up yet?
Title: Wrong spacing
Post by: maxter on July 12, 2007, 10:56:14 AM
It's got an original Edge, I think. I was surprised too. I haven't strung it, but what made me take out the ruler was the fact that I was checking out the bridge and just "draw lines" from there over the pole pieces and it didn't seem to match. :? And I'm confident the QM2 is 50mm.

The shipping fees are quite the bitch so I'm wondering, is the difference audible enough for it to be worth it? I'd guess it is.  :(

EDIT: Yep, using a ruler to decide where the strings will go, they're definietly offset compared to the pole pieces. They are supposed to be straight over them, no? shiteeshiteeshitee.
Title: Wrong spacing
Post by: indysmith on July 12, 2007, 11:08:58 AM
You're right the QM2 does have 50mm spacing. I replace mine with a 53mm nailbomb aswell and it lines up witht the strings far better. nothing to worry about - Your S series will sound as great as mine :D
Good luck wiring it up btw - they have ridiculous switching.
Title: Wrong spacing
Post by: maxter on July 12, 2007, 11:10:36 AM
You have a ZR tremolo though, right? Ah well, I guess I'll buy some strings today anyway and try it out, but it doesn't look like it'll line up well at all on mine. :/
Title: Wrong spacing
Post by: Philly Q on July 12, 2007, 11:14:52 AM
What's the actual spacing across the bridge saddles themselves?
Title: Wrong spacing
Post by: maxter on July 12, 2007, 11:17:24 AM
Hmm, I measured across where the strings actually "come out" (or rather, in) the bridge, and it's about 54-55mm. I'll buy strings now anyway and try it out and take some pictures, so I'll be coming back later today.
Title: Wrong spacing
Post by: Philly Q on July 12, 2007, 11:29:50 AM
Quote from: maxter
Hmm, I measured across where the strings actually "come out" (or rather, in) the bridge, and it's about 54-55mm.

That's typical Floyd spacing, just a little less than vintage Fender spacing.  That being the case, the 53mm pickup will line up better than 50mm.  I'll stake, er, somebody else's life on it.
Title: Wrong spacing
Post by: samoth2 on July 12, 2007, 11:52:07 AM
Quote from: indysmith
You're right the QM2 does have 50mm spacing. I replace mine with a 53mm nailbomb aswell and it lines up witht the strings far better. nothing to worry about - Your S series will sound as great as mine :D
Good luck wiring it up btw - they have ridiculous switching.


Yeah it's a bitch, how have you wired yours? 'Cause right now I only got my bridge pickup wired   :oops:
Title: Wrong spacing
Post by: Antag on July 12, 2007, 11:52:31 AM
Quote from: Philly Q
That's typical Floyd spacing, just a little less than vintage Fender spacing.  That being the case, the 53mm pickup will line up better than 50mm.  I'll stake, er, somebody else's life on it.

+1 :)
Title: Wrong spacing
Post by: WITH FULL DISTORTION on July 12, 2007, 03:29:22 PM
i didnīt understand this
i had the same guitar you have.
Ibanez S1220 WNF Prestige.natural finish. qm1 and qm2. pickups.
the qmpickups arenīt floyd spaced. thats $%&#ign Weird.
since you have a floyd spaced nailbomb and it ALLIGNS with the strings.. theres no problem with that
If the nailbomb 53mm isnīt matching the string spacing.. then it could be a problem.
otherwise,no.
Q:)
JP
Title: Wrong spacing
Post by: maxter on July 12, 2007, 03:34:38 PM
Pics

(http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h311/svalgis/DSCN1507kopiera.jpg)

(http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h311/svalgis/DSCN1505kopiera.jpg)


It sounds alright to me, but I've never played a BKP or a pickup with wrong spacing so I'm unsure.
Title: Wrong spacing
Post by: Transcend on July 12, 2007, 03:37:36 PM
it will be fine where it is. it isnt really out.
Title: Wrong spacing
Post by: Crazy_Joe on July 12, 2007, 03:39:35 PM
^ i have played a 53mm in a 50mm guitar and to be honest i can't hear any difference so it doesn't really matter.
Title: Wrong spacing
Post by: Philly Q on July 12, 2007, 03:42:08 PM
Either the bridge is a bit far to the left, or the pickup's a bit far to the right, but it's the correct spacing.  If you had a 50mm pickup on there now the low E would miss the polepiece altogether.
Title: Wrong spacing
Post by: dave_mc on July 12, 2007, 05:51:47 PM
^ i agree, from the looks of it, 50mm would be even worse.
Title: Wrong spacing
Post by: Will on July 12, 2007, 06:09:53 PM
Quote from: Philly Q
Either the bridge is a bit far to the left, or the pickup's a bit far to the right, but it's the correct spacing.  If you had a 50mm pickup on there now the low E would miss the polepiece altogether.


on mine its the high E  :?
either way, doesn't sound different
and the local guitar tech said its no real issue
Title: Wrong spacing
Post by: ericsabbath on July 13, 2007, 03:39:58 AM
Quote from: maxter
Pics

(http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h311/svalgis/DSCN1507kopiera.jpg)

(http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h311/svalgis/DSCN1505kopiera.jpg)


It sounds alright to me, but I've never played a BKP or a pickup with wrong spacing so I'm unsure.


looks aligned to me
you can bend the extremities to push it to the left (i did it)
Title: Wrong spacing
Post by: WITH FULL DISTORTION on July 13, 2007, 05:54:30 AM
did you apply any finishing to your guitar body?
mine didnīt have that finish. it was NATURAL finish
iīll post a pic of it..

(http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/1049/yeah4bn.jpg)
By wfd666 (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/wfd666) at 2006-02-12
Title: Wrong spacing
Post by: maxter on July 19, 2007, 05:14:05 PM
Alright guys, thanks for the inputs, I've tried the guitar out and I really can't hear that anything is wrong. I'm having second thoughts about the pickup itself though, so I think I'll send Tim another email.
In short, I like how thick it is, and I like it's cleans, but I'd like some more chug. AV Warpig? And how long after I recevied the pickup can I send it back? Maybe I'm better of trying to sell it and buy a brand new one?

Oh, nevermind, the absence of chug was mostly because of my still quite poor palmmute technique with the Edge bridge, lol.
I'll keep this pickup for now, it sounds great. :)


WFD: No man, it came like this from the factory as far as I know, the finish is called TKS if I remember correctly, Transparent Black "Something"? (not satin, cause it's really gloss as you can see). It's more or less natural with a slight black burst and natural binding.