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Forum Ringside => Pickups => Topic started by: opprobrium_9 on July 14, 2007, 08:07:43 PM

Title: Frequency Response
Post by: opprobrium_9 on July 14, 2007, 08:07:43 PM
I'm sure this has been suggested numerous times, however, i think it is something that would greatly benefit the buyer.  If, on the products section of the website, every one of the BKP pages for the different pups were outfitted with a Hz graph - such as one would find on the back of a microphone package in the store - i think it would help the buyer quite a bit.  

Undoubtedly the "players" section of the forum is a wonderful resource, however, the tones which are produced via the individual depend largely on said individual's set up (I.E. - Head, Cab/Speakers, Recording software/competency, petals, etc.).  This produces a very limited vantage point with which to really understand the true tonal qualities, more specifically the frequency response, of the pickups used.  This is why I think it is almost essential to the buyer to have this resource close at hand.  

I for one, even though i now own a set of BKPs, would have really liked to have that available to me... and i am sure i am not alone.  If it is a work in progress, i understand, but seriously this is something that should be done, IMO.  

Of course, each BKP is different due to the brilliant handwinding and tailored-to-your-needs attitude that Tim and Friends give to each pickup and customer, but obviously there is a gerneral norm that exists with say, just Riff Raffs, or just Cold Sweats - otherwise there would be no need to give them a catagorical title right?  Anyways, you all probably get what i am saying by now, so i will stop whining. :wink:
Title: Frequency Response
Post by: plastercaster on July 14, 2007, 08:14:55 PM
In the new website (arriving around the same time as chinese democracy), I think there is going to be frequency response charts.
Title: Frequency Response
Post by: Alex on July 15, 2007, 09:46:45 PM
I think that would be a good idea too.
Title: Frequency Response
Post by: hunter on July 15, 2007, 10:41:55 PM
Quote from: Alex
I think that would be a good idea too.


What, Chinese Democracy?
Title: Frequency Response
Post by: ericsabbath on July 15, 2007, 11:07:26 PM
Quote from: hunter
Quote from: Alex
I think that would be a good idea too.


What, Chinese Democracy?


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Frequency Response
Post by: Alex on July 16, 2007, 05:36:21 PM
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What, Chinese Democracy?


Yeah, that too.  :D
Title: Frequency Response
Post by: TwilightOdyssey on July 16, 2007, 05:52:31 PM
The official clips do exist, as do the EQ graphs, but they are all awaiting the new site which will be ready ... when it's ready. :)
Title: Frequency Response
Post by: hunter on July 16, 2007, 06:15:18 PM
Quote from: TwilightOdyssey
The official clips do exist, as do the EQ graphs, but they are all awaiting the new site which will be ready ... when it's ready. :)


So that is then indeed like Chinese Democracy ...

Who cares, due to the lack of info on pickups we just have to get them all, trying will be more worth than any graphs or clips, it's easy as that.

 :twisted:
Title: Frequency Response
Post by: Philly Q on July 16, 2007, 07:15:56 PM
Quote from: hunter
Who cares, due to the lack of info on pickups we just have to get them all, trying will be more worth than any graphs or clips, it's easy as that.

A millionaire speaks.  :wink:
Title: Frequency Response
Post by: Ratrod on July 17, 2007, 04:48:42 PM
Quote from: hunter
Quote from: Alex
I think that would be a good idea too.


What, Chinese Democracy?


The actual Chines Democracy or the new Guns n' Roses album.

I wonder wich will come first and wich will be the most expensive to realise.
Title: Re: Frequency Response
Post by: deg0ey on July 17, 2007, 06:25:20 PM
Quote from: opprobrium_9
Undoubtedly the "players" section of the forum is a wonderful resource, however, the tones which are produced via the individual depend largely on said individual's set up (I.E. - Head, Cab/Speakers, Recording software/competency, petals, etc.).


This is very true, although would it not also be the case for the person compiling the EQ graphs?

I am assuming it would be created by someone listening to it and approximating a level (very un-scientific, i know), but forgive me if there is some sort of machine or technique which removes this ambiguity which I am unaware of.
Title: Re: Frequency Response
Post by: TwilightOdyssey on July 17, 2007, 06:45:48 PM
Quote from: deg0ey
This is very true, although would it not also be the case for the person compiling the EQ graphs?

Not in this case because all of the clips are made with the same guitar/amp/mic  setup playing the same riff with the amp or guitar only changing when the pickups change (ie, single coil, humbucker, P90, tele, etc).

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I am assuming it would be created by someone listening to it and approximating a level (very un-scientific, i know), but forgive me if there is some sort of machine or technique which removes this ambiguity which I am unaware of.

Once the clips are completed the overall levels are matched for consistency. All that's required after that is someone with a lot of time to listen to all the clips and cross check them against each other and double blind his/her results, as well as the OCD necessary to complete such a mammoth task. PDT_008
Title: Frequency Response
Post by: deg0ey on July 17, 2007, 09:39:45 PM
Ah - I now understand...and I also understand why it hasn't been done yet :lol:
Title: Frequency Response
Post by: hunter on July 17, 2007, 09:48:35 PM
Quote from: Philly Q

A millionaire speaks.  :wink:


If that was the case I'd own this place by now

... and you would have diagrams and clips  :twisted:
Title: Frequency Response
Post by: Philly Q on July 17, 2007, 09:53:56 PM
Quote from: hunter
Quote from: Philly Q

A millionaire speaks.  :wink:


If that was the case I'd own this place by now

... and you would have diagrams and clips  :twisted:

Ah, but are you any good at scatterwinding?
Title: Frequency Response
Post by: deg0ey on July 17, 2007, 09:56:45 PM
Quote from: Philly Q
Quote from: hunter
Quote from: Philly Q

A millionaire speaks.  :wink:


If that was the case I'd own this place by now

... and you would have diagrams and clips  :twisted:

Ah, but are you any good at scatterwinding?


He'd obviously keep Tim and crew on as a general workforce :P
Title: Frequency Response
Post by: hunter on July 17, 2007, 09:57:18 PM
Quote from: Philly Q
Quote from: hunter
Quote from: Philly Q

A millionaire speaks.  :wink:


If that was the case I'd own this place by now

... and you would have diagrams and clips  :twisted:

Ah, but are you any good at scatterwinding?


You can never know Philly, you can never know  8)