Bare Knuckle Pickups Forum
Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: JDC on July 25, 2007, 02:46:12 AM
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someone recommend me a not so stupidly expensive 2x12 with vintage 30s in the UK for modern metal tones
I want an engl but they are too much and you can get a marshall 412 with vintage 30s for the same price
so far all I've found are these
FRAMUS FR212 CB £200 (any good???)
HARLEY BENTON G212 VINTAGE £133 (some shops own brand and I wouldn't be surprised if it was rubbish)
what's the link for that place that makes custom cabs I saw on here ages ago
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I'd get the Framus. Can't argue at that price and I believe the Framus stuff is good.
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Someone told me that the harley benton can't be opened up to allow for speaker change - which, if true, is pretty cac - so i'd go for the Framus
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Someone told me that the harley benton can't be opened up to allow for speaker change - which, if true, is pretty cac - so i'd go for the Framus
There has got to be a way, even if its not the usual back panel access - after all, someone got them in there!!
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The custom cab maker you saw a while back was zilla music - here's the link http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=50103788
If memory serves right, 2x12 with V30s from them was about £270 or so.
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ENGL 212VH
Mark
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The custom cab maker you saw a while back was zilla music - here's the link http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=50103788
If memory serves right, 2x12 with V30s from them was about £270 or so.
nar it was someone else, it just showed a picture of the cab as pure wood with no speakers
but I'll look into this zilla music as well
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was it this:
http://www.tube-town.net/ttstore/product_info.php/info/p1816_TT-British-Speaker-Cab-2-12-.html/XTCsid/2a6c2855b35dd2fe655a73f5ae88735b
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If possible go and try them. You would be astonished how different different cabs will sound.
Rather wait another month or two and get the best you can get for what you need.
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[There has got to be a way, even if its not the usual back panel access - after all, someone got them in there!!
chainsaw, or failing that, some C4. :twisted:
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One thing, heaviest/most agressive sounding 2x12 cab I ever played was a Brunetti 2x12 with V30s. Was quite small, but had a big, scooped sound and screamed/crunched very nice.
It lacked a bit of resonance for my taste, I like my cabs to be resonant and to move some wood as well, not just speaker cone.
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was it this:
http://www.tube-town.net/ttstore/product_info.php/info/p1816_TT-British-Speaker-Cab-2-12-.html/XTCsid/2a6c2855b35dd2fe655a73f5ae88735b
ye that's it, thx
anyone know much about them, like how they compare to the major brand stuff, the prices do look good though
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Tom loves his and it has a flex thing on the back so you can have it open or closed back (same as the Framus). It was £140 unloaded I think.
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[There has got to be a way, even if its not the usual back panel access - after all, someone got them in there!!
chainsaw, or failing that, some C4. :twisted:
exactly--- whatever it takes!!!!
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I have a Harley Benton and for the money, it's $%&#ing great.
It's front mounted and totally sealed, whom so ever said it was totally sealed is a fool!!! This front mounted jazz makes it REALLY $%&#ing tight sounding, a bit bright but nothing an amp with a presence control can't solve... Not only that, it's alot bigger than a number of other 2x12's on the market, it's a really good deal.
With a couple of modifications, such as G12K-85 speakers it now looks like this:
(http://photos-d.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v81/108/93/551480256/n551480256_737671_6451.jpg)
one this I will say is that the front grille had to go, it is only stuck on with Velcro and it just kept blasting off!
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I own the Framus cab and its brilliant, very well made (17x birch ply) and it handles my Engl Fireball admirably. Probably not the best 2x12 out there but I'd say easily the best bang for your buck.
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Tom loves his and it has a flex thing on the back so you can have it open or closed back (same as the Framus). It was £140 unloaded I think.
Yep, £140 unloaded. I dont know how it'll do for metal as its not the largest cab ever, so maybe doesnt have as much bass as the Framus might. Seems durable enough, I've allready gigged it loads and it holds up to that! I find that the flex-back is a really good idea, as I prefer open back for playing in a band (easier to hear myself, spreads the sound out more), whilst I prefer closed back for playing at home and recording - open back seems to sound too thin for that, at least with a SM57 close micing..
As for the Framus, I've heard that the tolex is thin and tears easily. Seems like a nice cab tho, and is definitely a good price..
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I own the Framus cab and its brilliant, very well made (17x birch ply) and it handles my Engl Fireball admirably. Probably not the best 2x12 out there but I'd say easily the best bang for your buck.
reading around it seems like a 2x12 version of the framus dragon cabs, are there lots of different types of plywood used in cabs?
because it only says that it's plywood on the framus site, it doesn't say if it's birch ply
and I take it birch ply isn't the same as the siberian birch ENGL use?
(just started reading about wood on wikipedia right now)
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I'm not going to concede that its better than the Engl cab, those are some of the best in the world. However yes I know its birch ply, not some random junk wood. Theres nothing to touch it at the price. In regards to the tolex, yes it is quite thin but I don't gig so it hasn't been a problem for me. It doesn't feel or look cheap for having thinner tolex though. Its actually very well constructed and presented.