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Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: CJ on August 06, 2007, 01:46:42 AM

Title: gibson xr-1 les paul
Post by: CJ on August 06, 2007, 01:46:42 AM
does anyone know much about this guitar? i bought one a little while ago, and its nice, but its not quite for me. it sounds very similar to my V, and with it being my only other guitar, its not quite worth it to me to have two guitars that sound so similar. i was thinking of selling it and grabbing an Agile LP.

my only hesitation would be that since they only made it for 2 years, could it possibly be worth something, or maybe eventually be worth something? i don't want to later regret selling it for a guitar that will not have any resale value.
Title: gibson xr-1 les paul
Post by: shaman on August 06, 2007, 03:27:03 AM
...seems like they were the first Studio...I dont really think they would bring any more than a Studio,even though they were only made for 2 yrs..they were "improved" and turned into the popular Studio,methinks
-sound slike it is a perfect guitar to drop some new KNUCKLES in..presto!new tone!!
Title: gibson xr-1 les paul
Post by: CJ on August 06, 2007, 03:32:36 AM
Quote from: shaman
...seems like they were the first Studio...I dont really think they would bring any more than a Studio,even though they were only made for 2 yrs..they were "improved" and turned into the popular Studio,methinks
-sound slike it is a perfect guitar to drop some new KNUCKLES in..presto!new tone!!


nah its not really just the tone i dont like. this things a bit beat up and just doesnt feel right. i've always wanted a cherry sunburst lp. i might just save up and get the agile lp w/ p90's and keep this one too.
Title: gibson xr-1 les paul
Post by: Will on August 06, 2007, 09:07:51 AM
gibson sent me the spec sheet

ok so it seems it won't let me upload pics of it, but there is a kahler flatmount on it... routed out with a knife and fork

i didn't like it so much at the beginning, but now it feels far more comfortable, and the perfect weight

if your not liking the dirty fingers, you could put the cold sweat in which should be the same kind of sound, just the BKP edge

(i would have done that by now if my phone didn't die :evil: )
Title: gibson xr-1 les paul
Post by: CJ on August 07, 2007, 08:31:12 PM
looking at the Agiles, how much of a difference in tone is there between a solid mahogany LP, and one with a 3/4'' maple cap?
Title: gibson xr-1 les paul
Post by: WezV on August 07, 2007, 08:48:15 PM
the solid mahogany ones can be a little dark sounding for some people.  The maple is said to bring 'top end sparkle' in mrketing speak

personally i like solid mahogany guitars - but certainly not for everyone
Title: gibson xr-1 les paul
Post by: CJ on August 07, 2007, 08:56:03 PM
Quote from: WezV
the solid mahogany ones can be a little dark sounding for some people.  The maple is said to bring 'top end sparkle' in mrketing speak

personally i like solid mahogany guitars - but certainly not for everyone


now i'm liking the one with p90's, but that one doesn't have the maple cap. i guess i maple cap isn't quite necessary for p90's? also, what does a mini humbucker sound like? the have the same LP with the p90 neck, mini humbucker bridge, and a wilkenson trem.
Title: gibson xr-1 les paul
Post by: WezV on August 07, 2007, 09:04:35 PM
like a smaller humbucker :P
Title: gibson xr-1 les paul
Post by: Will on August 07, 2007, 09:54:27 PM
smaller magnetic field makes it slightly twangier I think.
I am sure Steve Clark described them as like nothing else.
Not like humbucker, not like single coil, but has aspects of both
Title: gibson xr-1 les paul
Post by: Kilby on August 07, 2007, 09:55:45 PM
Mini humbuckers have more topend than the majority of humbuckers (or perhaps theyre a little bass light). theyre also quite low output.

Gunson used them to try and give the firebird models a bit of twang.

Theres a thread somewhere with more detail from around May or early june this year.

Personally I love them (makes mental note not to look at firebirds)

rob...
Title: gibson xr-1 les paul
Post by: Will on August 07, 2007, 10:02:34 PM
oo thinking about it
the XR2 and XR3 both have mini humbuckers I think
maybe relevant to this topic
there has been one on ebay US quite frequently
although all i can find atm is an XR1
how I yearn for a tune o matic XR1  :(
Title: gibson xr-1 les paul
Post by: CJ on August 07, 2007, 10:04:10 PM
Quote from: Will
oo thinking about it
the XR2 and XR3 both have mini humbuckers I think
maybe relevant to this topic
there has been one on ebay US quite frequently
although all i can find atm is an XR1
how I yearn for a tune o matic XR1  :(


want mine?

anyway, it sounds like your guys description of the mini humbucker sounds like a p90, but i've never played either. are they similar?

anyway, this is what i'm looking at right now, what do you guys think?
http://www.rondomusic.net/al-3000csbp90.html
Title: gibson xr-1 les paul
Post by: Will on August 07, 2007, 10:20:37 PM
can you upload any pics of yours?
thats mine, rather beaten up lol
won't let me upload the route cavity though  :evil:
Title: gibson xr-1 les paul
Post by: CJ on August 07, 2007, 11:05:21 PM
heres mine. looks like its the same as yours, except with the standard tailpiece.
Title: gibson xr-1 les paul
Post by: Will on August 07, 2007, 11:06:45 PM
mine has a mid boost switch too
someone had fun modifying it  :cry:
nice case!
Title: gibson xr-1 les paul
Post by: CJ on August 07, 2007, 11:19:04 PM
Quote from: Will
mine has a mid boost switch too
someone had fun modifying it  :cry:
nice case!


oh yeah yours does have an extra switch! and i'm pretty sure this is the original case for it. quite beat up.
Title: gibson xr-1 les paul
Post by: Will on August 07, 2007, 11:26:05 PM
original case SHOULD be protector. But that may just be for the upper end Gibsons of the time. so I don't know though. I missed the 80s anyway, born in 1990 lol
You're sure you want rid of it?
Title: gibson xr-1 les paul
Post by: CJ on August 07, 2007, 11:40:00 PM
Quote from: Will
original case SHOULD be protector. But that may just be for the upper end Gibsons of the time. so I don't know though. I missed the 80s anyway, born in 1990 lol
You're sure you want rid of it?


what the hell is that thing. the case says gibson. brown outside, most of them are black now. i can tell the case is real old. might not be original, but definitely an old gibson case. but i don't know, i might not get rid of it. maybe it'll be worth something someday.

and yeah i was born in 90 too.
Title: gibson xr-1 les paul
Post by: Will on August 07, 2007, 11:53:35 PM
tis Gibsons uber strong case. it was marketed as being able to float in water!
well, if you want to sell it eventually just let me know!
 am a bit short of cash at the moment, working my arse off for a feline LP :D, then I have to retake driving test :shock:
Title: gibson xr-1 les paul
Post by: CJ on August 08, 2007, 12:09:56 AM
Quote from: Will
tis Gibsons uber strong case. it was marketed as being able to float in water!
well, if you want to sell it eventually just let me know!
 am a bit short of cash at the moment, working my arse off for a feline LP :D, then I have to retake driving test :shock:


how much did you buy yours for? i wonder how much these are worth...
Title: gibson xr-1 les paul
Post by: Will on August 08, 2007, 12:57:04 AM
£600 posted GBP and the ebay auction is for $1099 USD
bear in mind the modifications on mine though, don't know if that increases or decreases.
from my perspective they both work out as £600 to get to the UK anyway
Title: gibson xr-1 les paul
Post by: CJ on August 08, 2007, 02:48:00 AM
yeah i bought mine for $750 shipped. comparitively it was a good deal compared to the other gibson les pauls out there. most of them are more around $800 unless you want a plain black finish or something.