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Forum Ringside => Pickups => Topic started by: gingataff on August 19, 2007, 01:12:06 PM

Title: My new BKP.
Post by: gingataff on August 19, 2007, 01:12:06 PM
I got my new BKP on Wednesday and installed it the same day.
A while back I was going to ask Tim for something with a Holdsworth type tone then I noticed on Feline's site that someone had already made such an order, so a message to Tim followed by several weeks (months?) procrastination and I was ready to order.
It's 16.4k and AV, similar to a Holy Diver I think. I'm not sure how close it is to the SD Holdsworth sig pickup, it's obviously not exactly the same as SD don't scatterwind, it may infact be a double screw HD for all I know but the most important part is the tone...

The Fernandes I put it in has a loud acoustic sound but it sounds a bit banjoey, and I'd previously tried the stock pickup, a DM Fred and then a DM made IBZ F1 which is also double screw coil;
The first thing I noticed was how hot this pickup is, the notes just fly out. The bottom end is fat but tight, the midrange is big and detailed and the treble is full and clear. As I was tuning up I had some fun playing BLS style riffs in B with gauge 9 strings, even then it sounded huge and tight.
I can get great Holdsworth style warm but clear cleans with my POD XT, his lead tones are much trickier but I reckon I'm a step closer with this pickup than any of the others.
The guitar has a switch that let's me bypass the volume & tone circuit and go straight to the jack. The vol & tone are 250k (controversial!) CTS pots that are cryo treated, and all the wiring and output jack are also cryo.

Big thanks to Tim and the crew for making great pickups and turning yet another guitar into a tone monster!
 
Here are some pics:
(http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l231/gingataff/D1000058.jpg)(http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l231/gingataff/D1000061.jpg)
(http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l231/gingataff/D1000064.jpg)
Title: My new BKP.
Post by: Woogie on August 19, 2007, 01:15:31 PM
NICE!! Does that Fernandes come in left handed form?

I bet it screams Rock N Roll Rebel (sorry I had to say it)!!
Title: My new BKP.
Post by: _tom_ on August 19, 2007, 02:17:09 PM
That guitar looks awesome, I thought I'd gone off superstrats but not when they look as cool as that  8) Can we expect clips any time soon?
Title: My new BKP.
Post by: gingataff on August 19, 2007, 02:28:19 PM
Cheers for the comments chaps.
I can make clips but I'm not sure about posting them cos as far as I know it's not an official BKP model and I don't know what name to give it in the title box :?
But maybe I can try Soundclick or something like that.
Title: My new BKP.
Post by: TwilightOdyssey on August 19, 2007, 03:05:37 PM
You can most definitely use the clips forum here!

Just put 'BK prototype' or something in the description.

Can't wait to hear it!!
Title: My new BKP.
Post by: Eric on August 20, 2007, 03:46:18 AM
Doesn't the double row of screws give the pickup more bass and smoother mids if I remember correctly?

I would be interested to know how this does compare to the Holy Diver.
Title: My new BKP.
Post by: Crazy_Joe on August 20, 2007, 12:31:24 PM
That looks awesome, be even better with a Floyd imo, but cool nonetheless.
Title: My new BKP.
Post by: 38thBeatle on August 20, 2007, 05:43:27 PM
I do like the simplicity of that guitar.
Title: My new BKP.
Post by: TwilightOdyssey on August 20, 2007, 05:54:35 PM
Quote from: 38thBeatle
I do like the simplicity of that guitar.

That guitar is very complicated by my standards. PDT_008
Title: My new BKP.
Post by: 38thBeatle on August 20, 2007, 06:16:23 PM
I was waiting for that Ben  :lol:
Title: My new BKP.
Post by: Woogie on August 20, 2007, 07:57:01 PM
Quote from: Crazy_Joe
That looks awesome, be even better with a Floyd imo, but cool nonetheless.


Floyd would spoil that. Even better with a hardtail ;)
Title: My new BKP.
Post by: _tom_ on August 20, 2007, 08:04:59 PM
Quote from: Woogie
Quote from: Crazy_Joe
That looks awesome, be even better with a Floyd imo, but cool nonetheless.


Floyd would spoil that. Even better with a hardtail ;)


+1, floyds/other floating bridges are for the weak!
Title: My new BKP.
Post by: Woogie on August 20, 2007, 08:06:14 PM
^^  :lol:
Title: Re: My new BKP.
Post by: WezV on August 20, 2007, 08:30:15 PM
the guitar is nice, just got me wondering about this -

Quote from: gingataff
The vol & tone are 250k (controversial!) CTS pots that are cryo treated, and all the wiring and output jack are also cryo.


do you feel you can tell the difference with the cryo treated electronic parts in a guitar?

I know it makes a lot of sense for high high performance stuff like tools and race car engines and apparently it helps tubes function better but i havnt tried those yet

I am trying to be open to these new fangled things but i must admit this struck me as a bit of a marketing gimmick and i would be really interested to hear real life experiences of these things to know if they are worthwile.

I saw another pickup manufacturer offering cryogenically treated pickups and this really struck me as marketing BS.  For a start i am fairly sure you cant super cool then super heat a pickup without serious damage to the magnet, bobbin and insulation on the pickup wire!! and why does a pickup need to be super hard anyway - maybe a bridge or tuner posts!  trem baseplates with cryo treated knife edges, that might make more sense
Title: My new BKP.
Post by: Crazy_Joe on August 20, 2007, 08:45:56 PM
Quote from: _tom_
Quote from: Woogie
Quote from: Crazy_Joe
That looks awesome, be even better with a Floyd imo, but cool nonetheless.


Floyd would spoil that. Even better with a hardtail ;)


+1, floyds/other floating bridges are for the weak!


It's not a tr00 superstrat without a floyd!
Title: My new BKP.
Post by: Woogie on August 20, 2007, 08:50:57 PM
Real men don't need a bar unless you're Satch cos he just pwns the guitar too much
Title: My new BKP.
Post by: TwilightOdyssey on August 20, 2007, 08:51:32 PM
This thread is ceasing to be about pickups. Let's keep it on track, please, or it'll have to be moved.
Title: My new BKP.
Post by: WezV on August 20, 2007, 08:59:14 PM
yeah sorry if i'm de-railing again - bad habits are hard to give up!!!
Title: My new BKP.
Post by: Crazy_Joe on August 20, 2007, 09:01:47 PM
Sorry Ben! :D

I am eager for clips of this guitar!
Title: My new BKP.
Post by: Woogie on August 20, 2007, 09:06:24 PM
I swear I just posted and it got deleted?

Weird
Title: My new BKP.
Post by: TwilightOdyssey on August 20, 2007, 09:20:31 PM
No need to apologize. Let's try to keep it on topic.
Title: My new BKP.
Post by: Woogie on August 20, 2007, 09:23:54 PM
Quote from: Woogie
I swear I just posted and it got deleted?

Weird


Yeah it did. Weird! Forum glitch?

I wanna hear that strat with the tone/vol disabled then with them enabled. I bet it's rawer and brighter without them engaged!!