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At The Back => Time Out => Topic started by: Crazy_Joe on August 19, 2007, 06:24:04 PM
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http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=2vfdl7-E80Q
I know i might be being a bit critical but if you were singing Beat It on Channel 4 primetime viewing would you hire this guy to play your Beat It solo?!
I think it's really bad, though i like his strat :lol:
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Perhaps a singer to accompany charlotte Church would also have been a good idea.
Ms Winehouse was so bad it took my mind of the guitar solo completely.
Then again I suppose what do you expect when the appearence fee is a bottle of Buckfast and 2 wraps of smack
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lol she was pissed as $%&#, that ruined the song too, though if she was singing properly she would ruin the song :o (apologies to winehouse fans haha)
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Oh come on Joe I thought the bloke did the solo alright, I couldn't have done it better, perhaps you can though! :P
Ms Winehouse on the other hand was dreadful, which is a shame as I've seen and hear her signing much better than that.
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I like it when they do that on the CC show, she can really sing.
but I don't like Amy Winehouse's style at all, seems jamaican to me
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Relistened to the vid again (well the solo part), lets say I also thought he was fine, and he did a better job and Mr Eddie is likely to do these days (which is a sad thing to have to admit)
As for miss whinehouse (my preferred spelling), she was really dreadful on the Jules Holland thing on newyears eve, it was embarrising when she was onstage with Paul Weller.
Between trying to pull her skirt up and sounding like she is hiding her stash in her mouth, I was truely embarrised both for her and Paul Weller
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ok, who's who.. cos the chick with the black hair should be shot for that performance.
the solo was pretty good though
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I like Amy Winehouse's latest album, but I gotta admit she always sounds piss poor live due to the booze.
The guy doing the solo was no EVH, but not many are. I thought there was nothing wrong with it.
:twisted:
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The solo was fine imo.
He's a good player - Clearly not a super expierienced tapper though.
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The solo seems a bit quiet and awkward as he doesn't hit the notes in the original or does half the notes of the original in places, it's mainly the first half of the solo, the second half is good. Maybe it would sound better with some backing guitars for the start of the solo.
If you listen to the original, in comparison it sounds a bit bad, though it is live i'll give him that.
I have been attempting this solo (again) and i have definatley got better at it, if i get to crank my amp anytime in the remainder of these holidays i might record the solo.
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The guy plays the solo about 100 times better than any live EVH version I've seen. A whole sh!tload better than Slash too.
Amy Winehouse is horrendous in that clip - she's like one of those Japanese cover-band singers who've learned the lyrics phonetically without understanding them. Except they sing in tune.
But kudos to Charlotte Church - she's really good. Shame she got caught up in all the wild-child bullsh!t, but - unlike Amy, Britney, Lindsay et al - she's managed to pull herself back from the brink without getting totally $%&#ed up.
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I have to jump in for Amy Winehouse at this point. Whenever i have seen her on Tv recently she has been pissed and her reputation as a skank seems to be deserved...
...but i went to see her live on the last tour and it really was extremely professional and a lot better than i was expecting. For a start she had two great backing singers,a great band and said she couldnt believe they let her sing after them .
she seemed totally togther at all times and seemed thrilled to be on stage singing for us - thats something i always like to see
anyway, when she is on form her voice is perfect!!!
Also have to say she gets judged worse for being a woman, we have loads of male rock stars that act like that and they dont get half as much stick!
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+1 with most replies, solo is played very very well, those squeals and right hand tap harmonics are not easy. The guy could have used a lot of delay to cover things up but he used a very direct sound with his Tyler strat and it sounded spot on, would never have expected it that good.
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Also have to say she gets judged worse for being a woman, we have loads of male rock stars that act like that and they dont get half as much stick!
I dunno, she seems to get exactly the same treatment from the press as that clown Pete Doherty.
But he is their favourite whipping boy I suppose.
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tbh, i would say his issues are more severe than hers.
hers seems to be mainly too much drink and an obvious eating disorder, still bad but not sure she quite qualifies as the self confessed heroin addict that he is - -
her hair is silly - his hat is worse :wink:
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The guy plays the solo about 100 times better than any live EVH version I've seen. A whole sh!tload better than Slash too.
Amy Winehouse is horrendous in that clip - she's like one of those Japanese cover-band singers who've learned the lyrics phonetically without understanding them. Except they sing in tune.
But kudos to Charlotte Church - she's really good. Shame she got caught up in all the wild-child bullsh!t, but - unlike Amy, Britney, Lindsay et al - she's managed to pull herself back from the brink without getting totally $%&#ed up.
I've only ever seen one EVH live version there's only like 1 on youtube, and it was better, but i do agree slash murdered that solo so badly.
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More embarrasment, watch Wellers experssion in the 2nd vid
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtfxfb9Tl6o
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WTzhWACsHc
Saw her on TV quite a while ago she was ok (especially for her age), but nothing special (to me). It must be cr@p to be known simply for being wasted.
The beat it solo was a one off, I have the isolated track on a van Halen bootleg (somewhere) and what you hear is a section of a longer solo (I think I also have a couple of alternate takes)
I don't wish to patronise but it's a cover version, not a youtube stalker version, they probably only decided to do Beat It a day or so before, along with a whole bunch of other music for the show.
Personally I'd be incredibly happy with that version if I had played it
Jeniffer Batten dosn't do much better than the guy in that clip and the other versions have heard are mostly worse (thinking about it I would like to hear what Adrian Belew & Allan Holdsworth would make of that solo though)
Rob...
Cue posting of my favourite youtube clip (again) from the days when Eddie was still turning his back while tapping http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1zBYF6PrFk
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Live yes i would be happy, but in the studio i wouldn't, it's the first bit of tapping where he only plays half the tapped notes of the original, i am being over critical, i just thought that part was a bit meh compared to the rest.
By the way do you have that EVH long solo? i'd like to hear it if that was possible :D
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By the way do you have that EVH long solo? i'd like to hear it if that was possible :D
I'm heading back home tomorrow (15 hours on the scum bus), and I will have a search (hopefully the wife hasn't thrown out my collection).
Damn I wish Eddie would get himself together.
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Damn I wish Eddie would get himself together.
Have you seen the September issue of Guitar World? He is at least looking a lot better - haircut, gained a few pounds, finally got his teeth fixed.
Unfortunately the "interview" - with Ed and his tech/personal manager Matt Bruck - is nothing more than a sales pitch for the new EVH amps.
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^ Have you seen the press conference for the Van Halen Reunion? He looks good there and they have announced a tour, no UK dates yet.
Diamond Dave says that they could have half arsed it but they didn't want to, that's why they waited after they first announced it and why EVH went to rehab. They then went on to say that this is no a one off and that they are a new band and it will lead to news albums etc.
Edit - here it is: http://www.g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/678441/Van_Halen__Diamond_Dave_Are_Back.html
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Unfortunately the "interview" - with Ed and his tech/personal manager Matt Bruck - is nothing more than a sales pitch for the new EVH amps.
Yeah read that ... hillarious ... left his amp full on feedbacking for a month time ... right ... :roll:
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^ Have you seen the press conference for the Van Halen Reunion? He looks good there and they have announced a tour, no UK dates yet.
Yeah, I watched the press conference. Ed's like a completely different man than he was in those NAMM clips a few months ago. But he still seems kind of frail and... remote.
Roth's ever the showman though! :D
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Haha yeah DLR chats so much cr@p in that press conference he can't shut up! But hopefully that gives us a taste of what he will be like on stage :D
They all look in great shape and it's great to see.
I'm interested to hear Wolfgang playing bass and to hear this "deep rhythmic sense" and groove that he has.
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Oh come on Joe I thought the bloke did the solo alright, I couldn't have done it better, perhaps you can though! :P
Ms Winehouse on the other hand was dreadful, which is a shame as I've seen and hear her signing much better than that.
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I was expecting the guitarist to be really bad , but he pretty much nailed the solo (tone wasnt EVH but wasnt bad)
Amy (dead by Xmas ) Winehouse was pretty awful
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Amy (dead by Xmas ) Winehouse was pretty awful
are we gonna start a book on that one or is that considered too much like bad taste :wink:
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The solo was fine imo.
He's a good player - Clearly not a super expierienced tapper though.
+1 - I think Joe you're being a little over critical for a live TV performance.
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lol alright alright, i still don't like the tapping bit at the start though.
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what was wrong with the solo?
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he only does half the tappy bits at the start of the solo which makes it sound a bit lame
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the point is, he got the job to play guitar on the charlotte church show and none of us did. He can't be a bad player from in those terms, I doubt that I'll ever play on a show like that. Winehouse is better than Church, it's a more exciting performance, beside's I can't stand mrs Church, she thinks she's special, but in reality she's a fookin mess, GET OFF lol
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the point is, he got the job to play guitar on the charlotte church show and none of us did. He can't be a bad player from in those terms, I doubt that I'll ever play on a show like that. Winehouse is better than Church, it's a more exciting performance, beside's I can't stand mrs Church, she thinks she's special, but in reality she's a fookin mess, GET OFF lol
lol I think you have the names mixed up, winehouse was wasted, were you watching the same video haha!
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lol I think you have the names mixed up, winehouse was wasted, were you watching the same video haha!
+1
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the point is, he got the job to play guitar on the charlotte church show and none of us did. He can't be a bad player from in those terms, I doubt that I'll ever play on a show like that. Winehouse is better than Church, it's a more exciting performance, beside's I can't stand mrs Church, she thinks she's special, but in reality she's a fookin mess, GET OFF lol
lol I think you have the names mixed up, winehouse was wasted, were you watching the same video haha!
do you understand irony?
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That tapping bit of the solo is so hard, I always forget the order of notes! This is the best I can do it at the minute (I've only been learning the tapping for half an hour or so though), my little finger is so sore now - massive blister! :( Cant work it in smoothly with the 1st lick either yet.
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=U0RDEZKJ
The bit after that is even harder though, 12h15h19 stretch!
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Miss WineWarehouse actually sounds quite lucid there, and you can actually say in her defense that it wasn't one of her own songs.
I've seen clips on the news recently of her massacring her own tunes at her own gigs due to being too pissed/stoned/whatever
Pete Doherty might be the medias other coke and heroin addict, but at least he seems mainly able to perfom at Babyshambles gigs. Winelake has got her bad rep by hacking off her own fans by being totally unable to perform at gigs where her fans have paid good money to see and hear her. You can only cheat your fans so much before they stop forgiving you and turn on you.