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Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: 5F6-A on August 25, 2007, 09:39:14 PM

Title: strings touching the back of the bridge
Post by: 5F6-A on August 25, 2007, 09:39:14 PM
My guitar has the nashville bridge. My strings do not clear the back of the bridge as I use a B7 bigbsy. My question is if whether or not there is consensus on the negative impact of strings touching the back of the bridge.

Thanks
Title: strings touching the back of the bridge
Post by: WezV on August 26, 2007, 11:21:38 AM
its not going to help the trem function well
Title: strings touching the back of the bridge
Post by: Twinfan on August 26, 2007, 11:52:51 AM
I've found it strangles sustain a bit on the affected strings.  This was with a stop bar tailpiece.
Title: strings touching the back of the bridge
Post by: Ratrod on August 26, 2007, 12:14:49 PM
Swap it for an ABR-1 Tune-O-Matic.
Title: strings touching the back of the bridge
Post by: Will on August 26, 2007, 01:22:49 PM
Doesn't the ABR1 have a different post spacing?
Title: strings touching the back of the bridge
Post by: 5F6-A on September 02, 2007, 09:06:14 PM
Quote from: Will
Doesn't the ABR1 have a different post spacing?


exactly the ABR-1 and nashville bridges are very different.. I'm thinking about using some washers to raise up the bigsby a bit,. Also I'll whack the saddles all the way back for max clearance and then adjust th intonation.
Title: strings touching the back of the bridge
Post by: WezV on September 02, 2007, 10:32:25 PM
the problem is that if you raise the bigsby too much you wil loose sound quality and sustain because of a lack of pressure on the bridge - the better solution is to find a roller bridge that you can make fit, so even if it still touches the back of the bridge it still only has one place to snag
Title: strings touching the back of the bridge
Post by: Ratrod on September 04, 2007, 11:13:23 AM
Here's some roller bridges for ya.

http://www.guitarvalue.com/brtp.htm
Title: strings touching the back of the bridge
Post by: Philly Q on September 04, 2007, 01:30:51 PM
Quote from: Will
Doesn't the ABR1 have a different post spacing?

I think it may depend on the manufacturer, but 74mm seems pretty standard for tune-o-matic post spacing - I have a Gotoh ABR-1 type sitting on Nashville posts and it fits perfectly.

Another thought - Graphtech string saver saddles?  They're a bit taller than the metal saddles.  I put some on my The Paul and the strings are now clear of the back of the bridge.  Only the two E strings were touching though, I'm not sure how low the Bigsby sits?
Title: strings touching the back of the bridge
Post by: Ratrod on September 05, 2007, 06:07:48 PM
The B7 has a tension bar wich means the strings are kept down more and are at a sharper angle. A Les Paul with a B7 really needs a rolling bridge or graphite saddles. Not only because the strings touch the back of the bridge but also because of potential tuning stability problems.

Guitars with a bridge on a base and a B6 don't have that problem. The angle and presure of the strings on the bridge are lower and the bridge wiggles along a bit with the vibrato.
Title: strings touching the back of the bridge
Post by: 5F6-A on September 07, 2007, 09:06:26 PM
I think I'm going a drastic yet the best option. Plug those holes in and install a ABR-1 bridge with titanium saddles....

A good friend of mine is an excelent luthier and he'd do it for me gladlywhen he finds some time....
Title: strings touching the back of the bridge
Post by: Philly Q on September 08, 2007, 12:31:48 AM
Quote from: 5F6-A
I think I'm going a drastic yet the best option. Plug those holes in and install a ABR-1 bridge with titanium saddles....

Before you go for drastic surgery, why not try the ABR-1 on the Nashville posts?  It worked fine on my V.
Title: strings touching the back of the bridge
Post by: Will on September 08, 2007, 12:45:09 AM
Suppose it would be cheaper to play with alternative bridges rather than go in for guitar surgery so quickly?

Just my opinion, but I always find it a bit weird seeing the two filled holes of a bigsby removed. Doesit affect the value?
Title: strings touching the back of the bridge
Post by: 5F6-A on September 08, 2007, 08:44:56 PM
Quote from: Philly Q
Quote from: 5F6-A
I think I'm going a drastic yet the best option. Plug those holes in and install a ABR-1 bridge with titanium saddles....

Before you go for drastic surgery, why not try the ABR-1 on the Nashville posts?  It worked fine on my V.


I'll try although the bridge might wobble a bit... oh well if it does hopelessly I'll go on with the "drastic" option. I'll keep you posted......

;)
Title: Re: strings touching the back of the bridge
Post by: cjdean1 on May 30, 2009, 09:39:02 AM
I have a Gibson LP-295 (Les Paul goldtop with a factory installed Bigsby).
The strings touch the back of the tune-o-matic bridge as supplied by Gibson. This has graphtech saddles standard, so I would not consider this as a fix!
I am considering having a reduced diameter tension bar machined up for the bigsby, which would reduce the angle on the strings back onto the bridge.

But you know, I really don't think it matters a lot. This guitar sounds incredible, and holds tune very well.
I think the main drawback of this issue is restricted range of the Bigsby, but how much? Couldn't be sure.