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Title: Look at the price of this Tele!!
Post by: Johnny Mac on August 28, 2007, 09:53:55 PM
http://www.cowtownguitars.com/itemtest2.php?invno=ft201&itemtop=includes/fenderitemtop.txt
Title: Look at the price of this Tele!!
Post by: 38thBeatle on August 28, 2007, 10:02:33 PM
Pity my Grandmothers are both dead-they'd have been on Ebay by now.
Title: Look at the price of this Tele!!
Post by: noodleplugerine on August 28, 2007, 10:18:11 PM
So?

http://elderly.com/vintage/items/30U-14093.htm
Title: Look at the price of this Tele!!
Post by: WezV on August 28, 2007, 10:32:46 PM
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The ONLY thing we did to this was clean the pots & shim a couple of the nut slots with some epoxy


the buggers have ruined it :wink:

if anyone wants to buy me that lp custom feel free!
Title: Look at the price of this Tele!!
Post by: blue on August 28, 2007, 10:43:08 PM
i wouldn't buy that Les Paul, it hasn't got it's original case!

this reminds me, i must post about my first "vintage" guitar which i got last week! (it was slightly cheaper than these two)
Title: Look at the price of this Tele!!
Post by: HTH AMPS on August 28, 2007, 10:53:21 PM
Quote from: noodleplugerine
So?

http://elderly.com/vintage/items/30U-14093.htm


They could at least clean the damn thing - all the hardware is tarnished and the finish has dulled.  For that kind of cash I'd expect some Duncans or DiMarzios, a nice new glossy eggshell finish and new Schaller hardware buffed to a high shean  :roll:  :wink:

 :twisted:
Title: Look at the price of this Tele!!
Post by: Elliot on August 28, 2007, 10:54:29 PM
If it don't say 'Broadcaster' on the headstock it ain't worth shitee
Title: Look at the price of this Tele!!
Post by: Kilby on August 28, 2007, 10:55:29 PM
This one actually made me laugh out loud http://www.cowtownguitars.com/itemtest2.php?invno=fm78&itemtop=includes/fenderitemtop.txt

Can anybody tell me why the Strats seem to have higher price tags than most of the other guitars on that site ?

A lot of the SGs where actually affordable
Title: Look at the price of this Tele!!
Post by: Twinfan on August 28, 2007, 11:21:25 PM
That headstock repaired '67 Standard SG would get my money...
Title: Look at the price of this Tele!!
Post by: HTH AMPS on August 28, 2007, 11:24:30 PM
Quote from: Kilby
This one actually made me laugh out loud http://www.cowtownguitars.com/itemtest2.php?invno=fm78&itemtop=includes/fenderitemtop.txt

Can anybody tell me why the Strats seem to have higher price tags than most of the other guitars on that site ?

A lot of the SGs where actually affordable


Simple supply and demand, that's what the market dictates they're worth.  However, anyone who'd pay that much for a parts guitar (Strat) is f'in insane.

P90-loaded Gibsons from the 60s are still one of the true bargain guitars out there.  You can find a SG jr in the US and get it over here for around £1200-1500 depending on condition/year etc...

This one is a bargain... http://www.cowtownguitars.com/itemtest2.php?invno=gsg108&itemtop=includes/gibsonitemtop.txt

 :twisted:
Title: Look at the price of this Tele!!
Post by: maverickf1jockey on August 28, 2007, 11:35:56 PM
Quote from: HEAVIER THAN HELL

This one is a bargain... http://www.cowtownguitars.com/itemtest2.php?invno=gsg108&itemtop=includes/gibsonitemtop.txt

 :twisted:

WTF :o I could buy a NE[/u]W[/b][/size] one for less than that!  :lol:
Title: Look at the price of this Tele!!
Post by: HTH AMPS on August 28, 2007, 11:43:37 PM
Quote from: maverickf1jockey
Quote from: HEAVIER THAN HELL

This one is a bargain... http://www.cowtownguitars.com/itemtest2.php?invno=gsg108&itemtop=includes/gibsonitemtop.txt

 :twisted:

WTF :o I could buy a NE[/u]W[/b][/size] one for less than that!  :lol:


AND it's missing the wang-bar thingie too - total ripoff  :lol:
Title: Look at the price of this Tele!!
Post by: Kilby on August 28, 2007, 11:58:42 PM
Quote from: HEAVIER THAN HELL
Simple supply and demand, that's what the market dictates they're worth.  However, anyone who'd pay that much for a parts guitar (Strat) is f'in insane.

This one is a bargain... http://www.cowtownguitars.com/itemtest2.php?invno=gsg108&itemtop=includes/gibsonitemtop.txt


I guess I can't understand why the strat is held so much abouve the Tele, or the LP above the SG. I can understand the player associations in peoples heads but it's not enough to justify the higher prices.

Most of the P90 beasties I was interested where already sold though :( and I don't like the non reverse Firebirds

That was one of the SGs I found interesting (along with the Melody maker XII)

BTW I have a pricelist dating from 1984 from Gruhn Guitars if anybody wants to how frightening the price rises have been
Title: Look at the price of this Tele!!
Post by: Twinfan on August 29, 2007, 12:05:03 AM
HTH - that's the SG I was on about...
Title: Look at the price of this Tele!!
Post by: maverickf1jockey on August 29, 2007, 12:14:49 AM
The telecaster, whilst a fantastic instrument in it's own right, will never be as recognised as the stratocaster purely because of the period in the late 60s and 70's when they were played by every guitar hero worth his salt. The same goes for the LP. The only prevalent users of the SG that immediately spring to mind are Angus Young, Tony Iommi, Carlos Santana and Frank Zappa (Frank later changed to a hotrodded strat though.). A great many talented guitarists have used them over the years and there was a point where I truly considered the SG to be the coolest instrument ever. The SG is technically still a LP, or at least it's unappreciated teenage pregnancy, but Les actually hated them and so his name was removed. Coupled with the reliability issues inherent in the design meant that it remained relatively obscure compared to it's parent guitar, the LP.
Title: Look at the price of this Tele!!
Post by: noodleplugerine on August 29, 2007, 01:17:33 AM
Quote from: maverickf1jockey
The telecaster, whilst a fantastic instrument in it's own right, will never be as recognised as the stratocaster purely because of the period in the late 60s and 70's when they were played by every guitar hero worth his salt. The same goes for the LP. The only prevalent users of the SG that immediately spring to mind are Angus Young, Tony Iommi, Carlos Santana and Frank Zappa (Frank later changed to a hotrodded strat though.). A great many talented guitarists have used them over the years and there was a point where I truly considered the SG to be the coolest instrument ever. The SG is technically still a LP, or at least it's unappreciated teenage pregnancy, but Les actually hated them and so his name was removed. Coupled with the reliability issues inherent in the design meant that it remained relatively obscure compared to it's parent guitar, the LP.


Pretty much every guitarist that played a Les Paul also played an SG.

ie, Jimmy Page..

And pretty much every guitarist that played a Strat also played an SG.

ie, Eric Clapton, Jimi Hendrix.
Title: Look at the price of this Tele!!
Post by: maverickf1jockey on August 29, 2007, 10:17:19 AM
yeah but are those the names that you immediately think of when the instrument is mentioned.
Clapton's 'The Fool' was used only as a stand in for his Les Paul, which was stolen, I think (feel free to correct me on this). Jimi only really used the SG quite rarely compared to his strats and V and I have never come across Jimmy Page playing an SG unless you count the EDN-43chickencluck (whatever the model is) which is not really an SG. It was a double necked semi-hollowbody guitar like an extension of the ES line but it was too heavy so they went for the SGish shape.
Title: Look at the price of this Tele!!
Post by: HTH AMPS on August 29, 2007, 12:59:41 PM
Quote from: Twinfan
HTH - that's the SG I was on about...


Looks gorgeous eh, those pickups will be T-Tops though - I'd change 'em out for Riff Raffs.  At todays £/$ rates that's a '67 SG std for under a grand, just insane.

We're gonna have to stop this, I'm almost talking myself into it and thinking how much I have on my credit card (bad HTH!!! bad HTH!!!)  :lol:

 :twisted:
Title: Look at the price of this Tele!!
Post by: noodleplugerine on August 29, 2007, 01:57:54 PM
Quote from: maverickf1jockey
It was a double necked semi-hollowbody guitar like an extension of the ES line but it was too heavy so they went for the SGish shape.


We're talking about image here.

It looked like an SG - So it was an SG as far as popularity etc is concerned.
Title: Look at the price of this Tele!!
Post by: Simon D on August 29, 2007, 06:27:37 PM
Sorry to break up the flow here, but what got me from the 52 Tele page was this little gem - "Original HSC & strap included (we're working on the orig. reciept)" - which makes it sound just a little like they're in the back room cooking up a fake one.

I'm sure we all know what they mean, but it sure could have been phrased better!
Title: Look at the price of this Tele!!
Post by: PhilKing on August 29, 2007, 06:59:14 PM
I like Cowtown guitars - they sold me my 1960 Les Paul Special for $500 in 1993!  I guess they're trying to make the money back now  :D
Title: Look at the price of this Tele!!
Post by: Johnny Mac on August 29, 2007, 08:47:00 PM
They're a cool shop eh Phil! I bought a couple of Hbe pedals in there last year and told them about Bkp's, seem like they're a dealer now too.
Title: Look at the price of this Tele!!
Post by: JJretroTONEGOD on September 01, 2007, 05:29:58 PM
I'm buying that after my first album goes platinum, lol