Bare Knuckle Pickups Forum
Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: Will on August 30, 2007, 11:42:52 AM
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Would just like to know what cables are good, not going over the top £££, 10-20ft leads I guess
£50 a good enough budget?
any makes/models that are good?
and websites/shops that stock them would be good too if anyone can
Thanks!
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I use custom planet waves leads really good quality. Monster are very good too. If you want a less trebley tone, try a 100ft foot lead.
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Great price/sound ratio: Sommer Spirit Cables (6m = 23 EUR)
http://www.thomann.de/de/sommer_cable_spirit_instrument_60_winkel.htm
This used to be my cable, it's a bit stiff but sounds really good and is great quality.
Since about a year I use exclusively VoVox, which are very expensive but deliver awesome sound quality and are very flexible.
http://www.thomann.de/de/vovox_protect_a600_kliwikli.htm
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If you want a less trebley tone, try a 100ft foot lead.
Ehm, 100ft lead used with a passive pickups guitar will sound cr@p. As far as my experience goes 6m is a good length - if you use effects before the amp I would go 6m and make sure I have at least one pedal with a good buffer amp (good means not Boss Pedal or Dunlop Wah buffer). But that's just me ...
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Some blues player (I forget the name) uses 100ft leads into a Fender Twin to roll off the treble a bit. It was in a magazine, will try to find it. Don't the coiled leads give warmer tone also?
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I used Monster Cables for ages, but they are NOT cymbal proof!!! They got stolen also, so I now use DiMarzio cables... they are pretty damn good for the cost.
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Some blues player (I forget the name) uses 100ft leads into a Fender Twin to roll off the treble a bit. It was in a magazine, will try to find it. Don't the coiled leads give warmer tone also?
Hmmm, fair enough ... I'd still prefer using the tone pot or amp EQ though ... :wink:
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Some blues player (I forget the name) uses 100ft leads into a Fender Twin to roll off the treble a bit. It was in a magazine, will try to find it. Don't the coiled leads give warmer tone also?
Albert Collins (RIP) used 100ft leads to roll off the treble into his cranked Super Reverb. Also allowed him to walk out into the audience and play, or do his favourite trick of playing outside the venue. Great player, awesome tone - totally unique style. He used some wierd tuning too with the guitar capo'd up high (open Cmin seems to ring a bell).
As for cables, I just buy Van Damme cable from Maplins and get some Neutrik plugs. I've tried George-L cables and they were WAY too bright and coiled up all the time. I've used my own 'homebrew' cables for the past 10+ years - they sound great and don't cost the earth.
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I've got planet waves but I dunno how they compare to other brands but john petrucci uses them in his monster rig so that must say something (not sure what though, I guess that makes my comments useless lol)
I read last night on some youtube comment that cables with all metal connectors are less noisey than plastic covered ones, is there any truth to this or is this someone talking rubbish?
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I bought a 15' George L cable last year and it's sounds really nice.
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man, i even notice a trebel rolloff when going from my 12' to my 20'. I find planet waves cables suck ALOT of trebel.
Try mogami cables, they're cheaper than monsters and have less effect on your tone than monsters do. :):):). I got one of these and never bought another monster again... theyre too expensive.
Gotta love them FAT gauge cables.
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I use these myself: http://www.award-session.com/cleartone_cables.html
They sound good, and aren't overly expensive neither :)
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I've been using the same 2 Whirlwind leads since 1995 without a single problem with them. They're the best leads I've ever owed.
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All my cables are George L's, yes they can be a bit bright sounding but they really brought my rig to life..
I like them so much i became a dealer.
Mark
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All my cables are George L's, yes they can be a bit bright sounding but they really brought my rig to life..
I like them so much i became a dealer.
Mark
I use George Ls in my loop but never in front as they take away the low-mid punch of my BlackDogs :twisted:
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Hunter mentioned Sommer Spirit and I also like Klotz La Grange. There are some silly priced cables out there though.
George L's are good for pedalboards IMO.
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You won't get better or more improtantly QUITER than George Ls! I use them for everything! even patch bays. They're well worth the money!
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I use a Spectraflex. Pricey but worth it.
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I use a cheap wireless with cheap patch cables and cheap 20ft cables in the FX loop. The only decent cable I have is a Planet Waves one which goes between the Big D and amp. It all sounds fine to me.
TBH - I swear that the whole 'treble loss' thing is psychological on anything under 30ft. Yeah, it does affect your tone to an extent but who has the treble on their amp up to 10?
Andy!
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eah, it does affect your tone to an extent but who has the treble on their amp up to 10?
Andy!
Jake E Lee :P
well anyway, it seems like its best that I go for one of the mid price ones. thanks for all the help!
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Van Damme cables are excellent; 99.99% OFC, no handling noise and totally faithful reproduction.
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mogami
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TBH - I swear that the whole 'treble loss' thing is psychological on anything under 30ft.
Andy!
I agree. Also the strings thread a few months back. Can anyone really hear the difference from one brand to another from a fresh set of strings? Maybe it'll all go Eric Johnson in here and they'll be a thread, 'Which batterys give the best tone in an overdrive pedal' :?
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TBH - I swear that the whole 'treble loss' thing is psychological on anything under 30ft.
Andy!
I agree. Also the strings thread a few months back. Can anyone really hear the difference from one brand to another from a fresh set of strings? Maybe it'll all go Eric Johnson in here and they'll be a thread, 'Which batterys give the best tone in an overdrive pedal' :?
I agree to a certain extent; if you stay away from really shitety cheap cables everything else is pretty much the same in terms of treble response. But I have three reasonable quality cables right here that definitely have different characteristics partlicularly when used wtih electro- acoustic guitars. My band use Van Damme for guitars, microphones and speaker cables because they meet the criteria for what is known as "broadcast quality" reproduction. that is the sound is not coloured in any way by the cable. One of the key factors in this is reducing handling noise. The way the screen is laid up affects its impedence when it is bent, moved, or compressed which can affect the resulting sound and generate noise. Our lead guitarist is a session guitarist and recording engineer and as a result is totally anal about cables; even to the way they are coiled and stored after a gig so I guess some of it has rubbed off. If you want to get onto strings (another good thread) most of them come out of a handful of factories from the same wire and the same machines.
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String wise, there is certainly a difference. GHS sound different to rotosound. although I can't tell much difference between Rotosound and Erny Ball, Erny Balls cost more, and seem to break faster
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String wise, there is certainly a difference. GHS sound different to rotosound. although I can't tell much difference between Rotosound and Erny Ball, Erny Balls cost more, and seem to break faster
I've always used EB's and never had them break. I just change them when they get dull. I still can't hear the difference from different makes if they're new and the same gauge. It's all marketing.
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String wise, there is certainly a difference. GHS sound different to rotosound. although I can't tell much difference between Rotosound and Erny Ball, Erny Balls cost more, and seem to break faster
I've always used EB's and never had them break. I just change them when they get dull. I still can't hear the difference from different makes if they're new and the same gauge. It's all marketing.
Maybe I got a dodgy lot, 2 of my EB pack broke within the first week. and since rotosound give an extra free 1st string and cheaper...
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I think the BBC and Abbey Road both use Van Damme cabling in (some of) their studios - it was in the VD bumph I got way back. I've never used anything else for yonks now - it just gets the job done with no fuss, is tough enough for road use and has good handling noise.
Oh, another vote for VD cable - last time I was at the Leeds festival I noticed that many of the looms were Van Damme.
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TBH - I swear that the whole 'treble loss' thing is psychological on anything under 30ft.
Andy!
I agree. Also the strings thread a few months back. Can anyone really hear the difference from one brand to another from a fresh set of strings? Maybe it'll all go Eric Johnson in here and they'll be a thread, 'Which batterys give the best tone in an overdrive pedal' :?
Man, i can hear a difference and that is why i $%&#in hate Ernie Ball strings, they sound like shite. I haven't tried out too many brands, but they are awful, everything in comparison sounds better.
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TBH - I swear that the whole 'treble loss' thing is psychological on anything under 30ft.
Andy!
I agree. Also the strings thread a few months back. Can anyone really hear the difference from one brand to another from a fresh set of strings? Maybe it'll all go Eric Johnson in here and they'll be a thread, 'Which batterys give the best tone in an overdrive pedal' :?
Man, i can hear a difference and that is why i $%&#in hate Ernie Ball strings, they sound like shitee. I haven't tried out too many brands, but they are awful, everything in comparison sounds better.
Good for you.
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TBH - I swear that the whole 'treble loss' thing is psychological on anything under 30ft.
Andy!
I agree. Also the strings thread a few months back. Can anyone really hear the difference from one brand to another from a fresh set of strings? Maybe it'll all go Eric Johnson in here and they'll be a thread, 'Which batterys give the best tone in an overdrive pedal' :?
Man, i can hear a difference and that is why i $%&#in hate Ernie Ball strings, they sound like shitee. I haven't tried out too many brands, but they are awful, everything in comparison sounds better.
Good for you.
Yes it is
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And batteries do change the tone of a pedal - Dramatically in some cases.
If you're using poor quality batteries, then the pedal won't get nearly enough power, compared to a good stable Transformer.
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:lol: :roll: ffs!