Bare Knuckle Pickups Forum
Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: Twinfan on August 31, 2007, 12:39:19 AM
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I'm probably going to be buying a JTM45 clone in the near future and wondered if anyone else round here has one? Something in the tone of it just spoke to me.
I think with one of those and a couple of pedals I'll be in tone heaven...
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ANGUS YOUNG!! Get it!!
The glassy tone is immense.
You looking at original or reissue?
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Be sure to check out Ceriatone's version of the amp. Just under $1000 inc shipping for a fully assembled PTP handwired amp. I want their Plexi 50.
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Check out the Cornell 45/50, which can give you both flavours, the JTM45 which is closer to Bassman as well as the JMP50 which has more of the Marshall crunch (selectable rectifiers).
It's pricey but as far as I know the best Plexi clone out there at reliable quality (unless you're lucky and find a good vintage one).
Suhr Badger is interesting as well in that league but tonally different I think.
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It's a Ceriatone kit that this particular amp was built from by a local electrical engineer. I've seen the insides and believe me, this guy can solder! It's art. Plus it has a few upgraded bits like carbon-comp resisters and some Sozos.
I tried his Marshall 18w/36w clone too and I preferred the JTM45. Not as much crunch from the amp, but that's what pedals are for right? Plus the cleaner JTM tone was much sweeter to my ears.
I'm thinking one of my Mule'd Les Pauls might sound a bit tasty through it...
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Well it looks like the deal is done. I'm trying the JTM45 again on Tuesday or Wednesday just be sure, then the guy wil be building me a cabinet for the head. It'll be in black tolex, with black corners, white panels and chicken head knobs 8)
Tone City please driver, and step on it...
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You gotta give us clips, I've been interested in those Ceriatones for a long time.
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I'll see what I can do Hunter - although my clip recording gear isn't the best I'm afraid :(
This amp should be even better than the regular kits due to the cap upgrades it's had, although I believe it still has the original Ceriatone transformers which some people swap.
It's got JJ ECC83 and Sovtek KT66 valves which are the better newly produced ones knocking about.
I've got some old Brimars I may stick in the preamp though, and I'm thinking of getting some Valve Art KT66s :twisted:
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I hope yours will sound good.
This is a photo and clip of mine with the Heritage "budget" LP with "boutique" P/us ....
(http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f103/walter_w/CIMG6215.jpg)
The clip is here:
http://www.esnips.com/doc/838bdc7e-dbad-44cf-925a-3b8c5a258400/HERITAGE-1
Specs:
- JTM45 ( 5F6-A ) clone amp with a couple of Plexi era twists
- Made by the same guy who builds the amps for Carl Martin
- Hand wired, all point-to-point using terminal strips a là Hiwatt
- Combination of TAD Mustard, Sozo and Auricaps coupling caps
- Valves; 2 x KT66 GEC, 2 x Mullard ECC83, 1 Philips ECC83 with matched triodes for the PI, 1 x Philips GZ34. Naturally all NOS .
- Parallel FX loop with mixing pot and gain reduction switch
- Cathode bias operation switch
- Master volume pot
- Obsolete Electronics JTM45 repro output transformer wired for 16 ohms.
- Black Tolex covered
- 2 x 12” semi-closed cabinet, same tolex as head with two handles a là vintage VOX and BluesBreaker grille cloth.
- Weber Blue Dog and Silver Bell alnico speakers. 12”.
- Only the best components available used.
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Lovely tone :)
I've not heard a bad JTM45 clip yet. Can't wait to get the amp now :P
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stop it!!! i have just got a new amp - now is not the time for AmpAS
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Sorry Wez :lol:
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The clean tone from a JTM45 is just gorgeous - the best Marshall clean tone ever imo. They do a mean crunch tone as well, apparently :wink:
:twisted:
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The clip is here:
http://www.esnips.com/doc/838bdc7e-dbad-44cf-925a-3b8c5a258400/HERITAGE-1
Maybe I'm dumb but I can't see any mp3s behind this link. Maybe because I'm on a mac? :cry:
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The clip is here:
http://www.esnips.com/doc/838bdc7e-dbad-44cf-925a-3b8c5a258400/HERITAGE-1
Maybe I'm dumb but I can't see any mp3s behind this link. Maybe because I'm on a mac? :cry:
The song should start stright away after clicking on the link... uhmm.....
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I can't see you goiung wrong with one of these Twin, a JTM45...too me... is the classic rock sound & these Ceriatone kits sound like the bees knees
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I can't see you goiung wrong with one of these Twin, a JTM45...too me... is the classic rock sound & these Ceriatone kits sound like the bees knees
Cheers Horsey. I've been llistening to loads of clips of JTM45s and I really think it's the sound I'm looking for. Early Angus, ZZ Top, Jimi, SRV - there's elements of all of them in there.
Damn this waiting...
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whats the cost of those things fully assembled?
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Cheers Horsey. I've been llistening to loads of clips of JTM45s and I really think it's the sound I'm looking for. Early Angus, ZZ Top, Jimi, SRV - there's elements of all of them in there.
Damn this waiting...
You're such a big fan of the Shiva sound, so I was thinking if you wouldn't be better off selling all your current amps plus the money you intend to spend on the JTM and get a Shiva instead?
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A good point Hunter, but I don't want to spend Shiva money on one amp. Much as I like the sound of it, I find Bogner prices just too much at £1400. Plus I think it looks rubbish :oops:
I think a good JTM45 with a pedal or boost can do a lot of what the Shiva can.
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whats the cost of those things fully assembled?
Check out http://www.ceriatone.com
It's around $1000 for the complete amp built by Ceriatone, a cabinet and shipping. So that's around £500 plus import duty.
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Everybody help me out here and get Nik to build a Silverface Fender Super Reverb clone (most.underrated.amp.ever) and also something with KT88 tubes.
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Sod that, I want him to start making a JTM45/100 kit with four KT66s :twisted:
Should have my JTM45 in a couple of weeks. I'll get some pics up when I've got it here :D
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Didn't the old Marshall Major run KT88 tubes in the power stage?
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Yup, certainly did. Bet that was a loud bugger!
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Yup, certainly did. Bet that was a loud bugger!
Stupid loud, from what I understand, loud to the point of being useless unless you happen to be in Deep Purple or something.
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Well the extra cosmetic "bits" and my KT-66 valves turned up yesterday. The amp should be finished and ready for collection at the weekend 8)
Oh, and when I pick it up I'm dropping off one of my Klipps to be converted to Marshall Super Bass spec :twisted:
Knowing a good local amp tech is proving to be a GAS guzzler...
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awesome! I expect a full review telling us what you think :P
Those Ceriatones have got me drooling. That DC-30 looks like the sex.
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If an amp looks like sex mate you need to get out more :lol:
I expect a full report twin on this kit :D
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Ics and review will be done :)
I'll see if I can get a clip or two recorded aswell.
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God damn this thread :evil:
I haven't had JTM45 GAS for a while now, but now it's back with a vengeance :lol:
I may have to look into 1 of these Ceriatone things, a JTM45 Re-issue or a Celtic Edana (great sounding clone of a JTM45).
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Celtic Edana (great sounding clone of a JTM45).
whos-a-what-now?
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whos-a-what-now?
Celtic Amps - http://www.celticamplifiers.com/ :)
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Well it's here :D
(http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r267/junkacct/Martamp1.jpg)
(http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r267/junkacct/Martamp2.jpg)
Beeyoooooootiful clean tone at low volumes. Gorgeous. I've not had chance to wind up the volume a bit at home, but with an attenuator at the builder's place it sounded fantastic. I've tried running my ZVex Box of Rock through it and it sounds pretty good. It really needs to be wound up to a certain level though for all the syrupy goodness to really shine.
I can't believe it's a month to my next gig and no rehearsals inbetween :(
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come on Dave, we want gut-shots.
btw, if you should happen to have a 'booster' type pedal (as I know you do) then try it into the normal channel and prepare for a serious rawk tone.
:twisted:
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Waouh!You're very lucky!I would like so much to hear it! :wink:
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That
is
seriously
nice
I'm gassing now...damn you twin! :evil:
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Cheers guys. I'll see if I can get you a porn-like gut shot later ;)
I'm still playing around with settings HTH, but I'll try your booster through the normal channel later. The normal channel is very dark, but I'll give it a try...
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I've seen Martamp amps on ebay before didn't know you were buying it off him Dave. I think He was selling an 18W plexi copy for about £250 I wish I had snatched it up then!
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Yeah, he builds 18w and 36w clones. With and without tweaks. He also has a 10w combo he builds. He's going to lend me his 36w to try sometime.
My main gigging Laney Klipp is currently with him to be converted to Marshall Super Bass spec.
His work is of high quality, his prices are good, and he has a great no-nonsense approach. Top stuff in my book. And he's local :)
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I forgot to say - the clarity of notes on this amp is superb. Great note separation rather than the buzzy mush you get on a lot of other amps.
Awesome.
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How does it compare to a GH for rock? I've been wanting a Plexi ever since I got the ACDC discography :P
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A JTM-45 won't have enough gain for you Tom. They're more of a blueser's amp with a sweeter tone. If you want EVH levels of gain and grit then a 36w clone would be a good lower powered option. Most people prefer that Super Lead 100 "Plexi" tone for rock with loads of build-in gain and edgy bite.
Angus and Malcom have used a whole bunch of amps/speakers over the years:
JTM-45s
JTM-50s
JTM-45/100s
100w Super Leads
100w Super Basses
JMP-50s (with Master Volume)
JMP-100s (with Master Volumes)
200w Majors
Marshall clones eg Wizard amps
Greenbacks
G12Hs
Vintage 30s
Angus tends to use 100w heads for rhythmn and 50 watters for solos. The 45/50 watters sound a bit sweeter for lead lines.
My ears prefer a smoother, rounder tone with low gain and non-piercing treble. This is where the JTM-45 shines and it suits my heavy picking style(which adds gain itself).
This also explains why my Klipp is being converted to Super Bass (not Lead) spec...
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twin, who put it together for you please?
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His name's Martin Whelan. Here's his site:
http://www.martamp.com
Here's a couple of gut shots of my JTM-45 (with old gold panels):
(http://www.martamp.com/images/jtm45.jpg)
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OK, here's the full "money shot" for HTH and anyone else who's interested:
(http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r267/junkacct/Guts_full.jpg)
(http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r267/junkacct/Guts_left.jpg)
(http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r267/junkacct/Guts_right.jpg)
By the way, an MI Audio Crunch Box with this amp SCREAMS :twisted:
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twin which package did you get please
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It's a Marshall JTM-45 clone, built to Martin's specs. It's based on a Ceriatone kit with a couple of minor changes that Martin prefers to have. Nothing drastic as far as I can gather, and nothing that would alter the tone to any noticeable degree. It has Ceriatone transformers, JJ ECC83s and GZ34 valves, plus Shuguang KT-66s.
The cabinet was built by Martin and covered in my choice of regular black tolex, metal corners, stainless steel mesh over the venting holes and a silver handle. I also requested the white panels and the chiecken head knobs. Everything is customisable for a price.
He basically builds you what you want, although he's going to be introducing some standard models in the near future based on the 18w Marshall design.
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That does look terrific and I have been reading the thread and it sounds as if you are pretty pleased with it-great choice.
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you big meany!
I want one of ceriatone's line!
a decent enough bank balance doesn't help, but I think a feline guitar shall be first :lol:
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Smart guy, he's only used carbon comp resistors on V1 and V3 plates (i.e. where there is a large voltage across them). This is where you get the 'magic' that people associate with CC resistors.
I would have also used them for the plate load on V2a (the 100k on the valve base) and also for 100k cathode resistor on V2b but that's just my preference.
I remember tweaking my AC20 and I really couldn't believe how much the amp opened up when I used CC resistors in place of the CF ones I'd previously used.
Overall I'd say it's a nice neat build. I always use multiple star grounding over the bus-bar that he's used (and Marshall always used in plexis), but again that's just a personal thing. I'm just used to keeping grounds together for each node on the HT rail from when I've built high-gain valve amps where it's more critical.
I don't think you can grumble at all with that amp - it's built equal to the Marshall HW series amps I've seen and better than many vintage valve amps I've serviced (Sound City and Simms Watts spring to mind).
:twisted:
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Cheers HTH. As you say, he's used carbon comps in the key places for tone and not elsewhere (to keep background noise down). As you say, lots of things are personal preference and he has done his take on the JTM-45 circuit. It sounds good to me.
Can't wait to crank it at my next gig through my V30/G12H 4x12 :twisted:
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I rock a 1969 Marshall Major.
I will be rocking a Roccaforte DRRS or possibly a Splawn quickrod sooner or later....
Anything that's like an older Marshall, including older Marshalls gets a thumbs up in my book!
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Twin, your a scoundrel & a git...I ended up speaking to Martin today
I hope you know that a wife maybe after you & not in a good way
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Ha ha :lol:
WHat have you ordered/asked about???
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Did you order this amp in a kit from the USA and he built it for you and boxed it up etc? Or did he build it from scratch?
I ask because I don't see a JTM45 style amp on his website apart from yours :D
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He'd actually ordered some bits of the JTM-45 kit from Ceriatone in Malaysia (basically the chassis, transformers and circuit board), with a few component tweaks that he wanted. The rest of the amp parts he either had in stock or sourced locally (other caps, valve bases, fuse holders etc) . He wanted to try building a JTM-45 for his own experience (there was no order for one) and this amp was his first attempt.
When I first met him he'd built the amp with 6L6s, gold panels, standard Marshall knobs and no cabinet. He'd used it in rehearsal and decided it wasn't really his thing and he preferred his 36w. I tried it, liked it, asked him to switch it to KT66s, white panels, chicken head knobs and to build a simple cab for it to my spec.
He now really likes the amp and may build himself another. And I got the great sounding prototype :D
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Basically the exact same as yours mate with some cosmetic changes, he was knowledgable, funny & really helped me understand which is the best way to go with the amps i.e. I flirted with the idea of 36w but came back to the JTM45
she's gonna kill me!
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Nice one matey. Sounds good!
The 36w is a great lower powered Plexi, but they just don't do cleans or light crunch. It's gain all the way. Great in a rock band, not quite so good if you want a bit more flexibility.
I just dying to crank my '45 up!
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so are we! :P
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How long until you get yours? About a month?
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You guys need to shut up now about these amps, giving me mega JTM-45 GAS :twisted:
I may have to give him a call, see what price he'd quote for a JTM-45 with 5881 valves instead of KT88s :lol:
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It'll be pretty much the same as the other valves I'm sure.
KT88s???
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It'll be pretty much the same as the other valves I'm sure.
KT88s???
I meant KT66s :lol: :roll:
Bad day at work and my heads not on the job
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How long until you get yours? About a month?
christ mate, I haven't dared speak to the missu yet! She was in a right bad mood last night & I'm gonna have to sell my cornford first (snif, sniff :cry: )
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What's wrong with the Cornford???
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Nothing at all, but to raise the cash for this I'm going to have to either hock my body or sell the cornford. I'd prefer not to as it's lovely & one of the early models....unless I can come up with some money out of the blue, or save up for it! I've already got the bitsa going on as well, so I'm pretty much skint at the moment
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If you've got a Cornford, why get the JTM-45? I would have thought a Cornford does a similar job?
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Nah this is the 6 wat harlequin bud
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Gotcha ;)
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I've spoken to Martin about these amps too :)
I've enquired as to having 1 built with London power Scaling installed and the price he's quoted is cheaper than a new Marshall JTM45 RI. Now all I have to do is justify it to myself (and find a reason so that my girlfriend doesn't kill me :roll: :lol: ) and then it'll be being ordered :twisted:
And it's all your fault Dave!
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Sorry guys :oops: He's got a JTM-45 on the bench at the moment already - must be flavour of the month!
I'm meeting up with Martin next week with my collection of amps to try them out in a rehearsal room (i.e. cranked). He's bringing his too, plus we're both bringing a few pedals and guitars. Should be a great evening trying out some top gear :D
By the way, he's just modded my #1 Laney Klipp ("Brownie") to have a Marshall Super Bass spec pre-amp section (leaving the original Klipp power amp section as it is). I've christened it the Martaney Super Klipp ;)
It's a wall shaking MONSTER :twisted:
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Sorry guys :oops: He's got a JTM-45 on the bench at the moment already - must be flavour of the month!
It's not your fault mate. It's well known that us guitarists are fickle :twisted:
I'm meeting up with Martin next week with my collection of amps to try them out in a rehearsal room (i.e. cranked). He's bringing his too, plus we're both bringing a few pedals and guitars. Should be a great evening trying out some top gear :D
By the way, he's just modded my #1 Laney Klipp ("Brownie") to have a Marshall Super Bass spec pre-amp section (leaving the original Klipp power amp section as it is). I've christened it the Martaney Super Klipp ;)
It's a wall shaking MONSTER :twisted:
Sounds like a great night you have planned there mate!
I can't even find someone that sets guitars up in my area, let alone an amp tech that knows his stuff and lets you have jam sessions to try stuff out :lol:
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These JTM45 clips are awesome, perfect blues rock tone and I bet its even good for hard rock when you boost it - http://www1.gitarrebass.de/magazine/0607/marshall_jtm45.htm
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Yeah, there's some good tone there. Looking forward to cranking my '45 for the first time tonight :twisted:
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so any pics of the new beast?
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See pages 3 and 4 ;)
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ahh came in late on this one *L*
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I'm a bit late on this one too. Your new amp looks gorgeous TF, the insides just ooze quality!
Does it nail that Angus and Malcom crunch?
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yeah good question
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Well it got cranked last night :D
Take one SG
One guitar cable
Input into the high treble channel via the high input
Set the amp to:
Presence = 3
Bass = 3
Middle = 6
Treble = 6
Volume = 7
Did someone say Angus? ;)
Oh, and the KT-66s glow blue as you play. How cool is that?????
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Hey guys ! Sorry to butt in on this conversation. I was cruising the www this morning (as you do) looking for Jtm45 info, as I have been wanting one, but just couldn't decide between a Ceriatone and one of the Marshall RI's. The Ceriatone is almost certaily a better amp but I was nervous about getting it shipped from Malaysia (or wherever they are), and the lack of aftersales support.
Anyway, I came upon this thread - wowsers ! I became very interested.
After a couple of emails to Martin at martamps I was very, very interested. I couldn't believe he could produce the amp at the price point that he does. He sure can't make too much money out of it at the moment. Anyway, Martin seems like a top guy. And the long and the short of it is that I ordered a Jtm45 like Twinfan's, with Power scaling !!! All hand-wired, brand new, all for the sum of £730. I am almost wetting myself in anticipation.
I can't believe that eventually I'm going to get the "amp of my dreams" (cheesy though it sounds).
Twinfan - Martin said you made some great noise the other night, and that he liked the G12H's the best with the amp - he couldn't quite remember whether it was the heritage's or the anniversary model though ??
Anyway, I've got pretty reasonable recording gear, so when it arrives (Nov sometime), I'll defo be putting up some clips ("Back in Black" is likely to feature !).
Alan
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Hi Alan - welcome to the forum!
You made a good choice! Martin is a top bloke.
We didn't try my JTM45 with G12Hs last night, just my 2x12 with V30s and his 4x10 cab. It didn't like the pair of V30s as it wasn't giving them enough signal to truly bloom. We likened the tone of his 10inch speakers to a G12H and that's why I'll be using my G12H Anniversary equipped 2x12 in future with my JTM45.
I also have a 4x12 with an X-pattern of V30s and Heritage G12Hs in that I think will work well. A 2x12 with a G12H (either type) and a V30 may also be a good choice. Two V30s alone just give too many mids for a vintage style amp, although they work very well with more modern gear. The mix of speakers should be better balanced.
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I gotcha TF, I obviously misunderstood what Martin was saying.
I've got a 2x12 cab which I run as a detuned 1x12 with an Eminence Cannabis Rex in it. I plan to start off using that cab with the new '45 and maybe convert it back to a 2x12 (maybe add a G12H30) if I'm not enamoured with how the detuned 1x12 matches with it. I'll just have to see how it goes.
Alan
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Spoke to Martin Twinfan...says he could convert my slave amp to something similar to the jtm45......now what can I sell to fund(car's been a pain today)
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Sounds good matey - you want a shared cathode V1 preamp section ;)
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SG that's exactly what I started doing...can the cornford go...what about the yamaha acoustic...the missus? 8)
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Sorry for my stupidity but what will "shared cathode V1 preamp section" do or is this for the jtm sound
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Sounds good TF, Angus's tone is one of the best tones there is, man I'd love to have a go! :D
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yup kinda the tone I love..shame the jtm30 I had was screwed..oh yeah and didn't sound like a jtm45
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shared cathode V1 preamp section? twin fan
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It's just the way the initial part of the amp circuit is wired. The alternative is split cathode, which is how the late 60s Super Leads were done. They have a bit more treble and crunch, and sound like they have a bit more gain because of it.
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Cool something to think about..now do you, want to buy a kidney?
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After playing for years on my bluesbreaker RI'89, having lend the old plexi of a friend of mine, tried way to much to remember, the greatest 'plexi like' amp i have used is a original jcm800. I dont believe that there is anything that offers this tone and versatility, and still they arent that hard to find for just the amount of cash a new copy-plexi would cost. Watch out for modded ones though.
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Hey guys ! Sorry to butt in on this conversation. I was cruising the www this morning (as you do) looking for Jtm45 info, as I have been wanting one, but just couldn't decide between a Ceriatone and one of the Marshall RI's. The Ceriatone is almost certaily a better amp but I was nervous about getting it shipped from Malaysia (or wherever they are), and the lack of aftersales support.
Anyway, I came upon this thread - wowsers ! I became very interested.
After a couple of emails to Martin at martamps I was very, very interested. I couldn't believe he could produce the amp at the price point that he does. He sure can't make too much money out of it at the moment. Anyway, Martin seems like a top guy. And the long and the short of it is that I ordered a Jtm45 like Twinfan's, with Power scaling !!! All hand-wired, brand new, all for the sum of £730. I am almost wetting myself in anticipation.
I can't believe that eventually I'm going to get the "amp of my dreams" (cheesy though it sounds).
Anyway, I've got pretty reasonable recording gear, so when it arrives (Nov sometime), I'll defo be putting up some clips ("Back in Black" is likely to feature !).
Alan
For anyone that's interested (apart from Alan of course ;)) his JTM45 is all built up and ready to go. Final shakedown tests were performed last night and it's looking and sounding good. Alan's taking delivery tomorrow :D
Both Alan's and my amp sounded identical through the same cab, which is good news for those interested in Martamps consistency.
I've also managed to convert Martin himself to my way of thinking. As he said last night - "The JTM45 is just the perfect amp".
:D
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TF,
I am physically dribbling at the thought of finally getting my hands on the amp and cab tommorow. I hear you gave it a good blasting yesterday !!
The "meet" is all arranged with Martin. He's been a top bloke throughout the whole thing.
I'd really like to have heard it through your cab too. I gather it was a fair bit brighter than my new G12-65 Martamp cab. I've got a G12H anniversary I will certainly try instead of one of the 65's at some point. The highs and lows of the "H", with the mids of the 65 might just prove to be a winning combo. As always with speakers, it'll be a case of just trying various ones until I get a match with the amp that I'm happy with. I just thought I'd start off with G12-65's this time as I haven't used them before.
I'll keep you all updated.
Alan
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Yeah, my cab was brighter (1936 Marshall 2x12 with V30/G12H Anniversary mix) and I preferred it. But then I would, wouldn't I? ;)
I'm expecting pics and a review sometime tomorrow :)
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OK tomorrow's here....where's the pics :P :D
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OK tomorrow's here....where's the pics :P :D
hahaha. Patience, patience !!!
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Just to chime in anyway on the JTM45's, it looks like I'm gonna be getting the Metropolis JTM45 kit with the mercury magnetic's & sozo upgrades, Martin been really helpful for me & now I've had to join a band just to start getting the money together!
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Nice one - is Martin building it for you then?
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Right, I picked up the Martamp Jtm45 and cab from Martin today. Here she is :-
http://www.box.net/shared/tahnglggnd
I can't even play it yet as my wife is asleep upstairs, so I'm resigned to just looking at it for a while.
Alan
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You've got power scaling Alan - keep it low and you can play it ;)
It sounded good even at whisper levels......
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I really want to hear that amp especially with the power scaling set to low volumes soundclips please CHOP CHOP! :)
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come on, this thread blatantly needs clips... and a wormhole to your music room so we can try the thing too ;)
edit: looking at amp sites all afternoon again. man! i want a marshall 18w with cascading channel switch : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_v4VzrEbm-o
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Nice job!
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Just found a picture of my old JTM45
I got it for a low price and foolishly sold it when I was hard up about 10 years ago - I have kicked myself many times over that
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v662/felineguitars/amps/jtm45002web.jpg)
It was slightly older than me (serial no 3143) and was supposed to be a bass amp, but did sound rather good with guitar.
To make things worse I also sold an old Sound City 4x12 which had original Celestion G12 speakers in (from about 1967/8) :cry: :cry: :cry:
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Doh! Block logo JTM45 mkII. '65 to '67ish.
That's worth about £10,000 now....
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oh don't make the poor bloke cry. :roll:
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Doh! Block logo JTM45 mkII. '65 to '67ish.
That's worth about £10,000 now....
Ouch!
I did wonder - serial number put it at March 1965
Still had all original valves etc
Single speaker jack, Bulgin socket and fuse on white rear panel
2 owners before me- last guy had it since 1969- still had a sticker on the back from Carlsboro sound where he bought it
Think I need to go and lie down
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someone make a time machine for feline please 8)
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It was slightly older than me (serial no 3143) and was supposed to be a bass amp, but did sound rather good with guitar.
Dave Gregory ex of XTC always preferred the old Marshall bass amps for guitar solos (especially when he as doing his Hendrix tribute tracks)
It's amazing the lack of forsight that guitar players have when it comes to selling kit :(
Rob...
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Doh! Block logo JTM45 mkII. '65 to '67ish.
That's worth about £10,000 now....
Yup, Musicground had a white panel one from '65 last time I went. They were asking £15000 for it.
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Doh! Block logo JTM45 mkII. '65 to '67ish.
That's worth about £10,000 now....
Yup, Musicground had a white panel one from '65 last time I went. They were asking £15000 for it.
And i thought Marshall amps were cheaper in the UK ! :lol:
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Andy are you using a 4 x 12" cab with your JTM45 or a 2 x 12" please?
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(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v662/felineguitars/amps/jtm45002web.jpg)
Im sorry, im not usually like this BUT
DROOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!
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Andy are you using a 4 x 12" cab with your JTM45 or a 2 x 12" please?
Andy? You got my name wrong again?
If you're asking me, I'm using both depending on venue.
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serious apologies! I will get it right one day :oops:
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Ha ha! No problem!
You not bought a JTM45 yet then?
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It's geting worse! I keep trying to find ways to fund it, considered selling my motorbike, looks like the cornford is definately going to fund it & I'm trying to sort out a cab as well. Parents are wonderful things when you have no money!
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Just found a picture of my old JTM45
I got it for a low price and foolishly sold it when I was hard up about 10 years ago - I have kicked myself many times over that
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v662/felineguitars/amps/jtm45002web.jpg)
It was slightly older than me (serial no 3143) and was supposed to be a bass amp, but did sound rather good with guitar.
To make things worse I also sold an old Sound City 4x12 which had original Celestion G12 speakers in (from about 1967/8) :cry: :cry: :cry:
I feel for you man, I sold my '67 plexi to Music Ground for £1600 around four years back. I still cry when I think of that one, what an amazing amp.
On the good side, my '76 Superbass gets pretty close and everyone that hears it says it's the best Marshall they've ever heard. Unfortunately for me, I've had a '67 plexi that was f'in amazing.
:twisted:
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Twin/Dave (did I get it right this time?) just a quick question, do you think a 4 x 12" of greenbacks would work well with this amp? I think it would give a nice warm rounded sound, but having never owned a cab or anything like this would appreciate the help
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You got it right mate ;)
Greenbacks would sound good - nice and warm. That would have been the original pairing for the amp.
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horsehead are you getting a Martin to build you a Metro JTM45 kit? Do you know if you'll get charged for customs and VAT for them? How much is it going to cost you altogether? I've heard a few people say you don't get charged for customs or VAT for kit items. Thinking of building a 1987 myself and I heard that Metro's instructions are much better than others.
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twin's really the man to ask on this as he's already had the set put together. From what I can remember from Martin though he's got some kind of deal with Ceriatone set-up...I may have that wrong though. From my expreience you'll always get charged import tax etc.
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Anything over about £50 gets charged import tax - guitars/amps/parts/shoes - anything. To calculate it, it's:
(Cost of item + shipping) x 1.037 x 1.175 + £25 = total cost
which is:
(Cost of item + shipping) + 3.7% import duty + 17.5% VAT + £25 handling fee for the courier/Royal Mail = total cost
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Speaking hypothetically, if someone was to label a package as "Engineering Sample", then there is only VAT to pay, plus normally about £6 admin in the case of DHL.
Also, the VAT is charged at the stated invoice value, which it might be possible for the sender to make a mistake with....hypothetically. They might put a value of, say $100 on an amp for instance.
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ofcourse this is all hypothetical...ahem...get ready for a call soon Martin
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My prices have sneaked up a little.... :oops:
However, as you spoke to me about it a while back, I'll try to get in or around the prices we talked about :D which I can't remember now!
My new day job...oh blimey, there's a story. TF can tell you :wink: ... is slowing me down a bit now too.
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eh up, what you been upto? :lol:
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Martin's been a busy boy now he has a "proper" full time job. ;)
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I for got to ask Dave, how does the 45 work clean in a band enviroment?
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I will get a 60's plexi at some point, just gotta wait until I inherit a ridiculous amount of money from bill gates in a random selection of his fortune when he dies.
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I for got to ask Dave, how does the 45 work clean in a band enviroment?
The '45 is great in my blues band. I use it on about 2 or 3, which is pretty clean, then add pedals for overdrive. Lovely sweet sound, very Fender-y.
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Hiya
I built a metro JTM45 clone. My first build. Went together very well, forum is great many helpful people there
here's a pic of mine
(http://pic40.picturetrail.com/VOL362/1881120/15963528/250736909.jpg)
(http://pic40.picturetrail.com/VOL362/1881120/15963528/250736625.jpg)
and here's the guy who designed it playing one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSmVcxG6SGA
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Hi Twinfan , play around with rectrifiers and you may find very different levels of sag, which can sound great.
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I can't be bothered! I'm using a JJ GZ34, JJ ECC83Ss and SHuguang KT-66s at the moment and the amp sounds great. If it ain't broke why fix it!
My JTM45/100 will be similarly specified.
The only think I'm looking at now is a nice speaker cabinet. I'm thinking of getting a Matamp.
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the JJ GZ34's are great, work well and no matter what all the guys on the LPF say , they're very reliable
I just got some Russian spec Military rectifiers which I've been playing with , even more compression and sag, .... great, work real well with a JTM 45
Good luck with your build
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I just listened to this on youtube...sounds killer!
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ucIR00si7nk
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This is a great JTM45 tone - shows it off perfectly:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=tSmVcxG6SGA