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Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: hunter on September 01, 2007, 05:34:05 PM

Title: Is this the best amp of all times, ever?
Post by: hunter on September 01, 2007, 05:34:05 PM
Very convincing set of videos here, showing off all the different modules for the Egnater Mod50:

http://www.indoorstorm.com/egnater/mod50.htm

I find the Vox, the Blackface DLX, the SL2 and the Recto all very convincing, and it's awesome how well tempered those overtones come across, and even on the almost clean settings the beast goes into harmonic feedback.

Seriously, check the vids and tell me, might this be the best amp ever or is it just an artificial rip-off of the real things?
Title: Is this the best amp of all times, ever?
Post by: Nadz1lla on September 01, 2007, 07:24:49 PM
Looks like the same idea as a Randall amp I tried a few weeks back, loads of separate modules you can get, so it's a pretty good amp choice for anyone with a studio who needs a range of different amps for their clients, without the hassle of storage. It's a great idea for sure!
Title: Is this the best amp of all times, ever?
Post by: Orkestra on September 01, 2007, 08:18:22 PM
hahah... that looks amazing! But yeah... it's the same as the Randall idea!
Title: Is this the best amp of all times, ever?
Post by: samoth2 on September 01, 2007, 08:46:57 PM
I think Bruce Egnater worked together with randall, and helped them with the modules..
Title: Is this the best amp of all times, ever?
Post by: hunter on September 01, 2007, 08:55:09 PM
Yes the MOD50 is even compatible, you can use the Egnater modules with the Randall RM amps, but only the first channel of Egnaters 2channel modules works.

However, the MOD50 from Egnater is significantly better quality than the Randall RM amps, I tested an RM100 a year back and it sounded nothing like those clips from  Indoorstorm.
Title: Is this the best amp of all times, ever?
Post by: sgmypod on September 01, 2007, 11:30:42 PM
can you get these in the uk?
Title: Is this the best amp of all times, ever?
Post by: viking on September 02, 2007, 02:02:03 AM
Quote
Seriously, check the vids and tell me, might this be the best amp ever or is it just an artificial rip-off of the real things?
It's incredible!Very good vids...the guy is also very good with singlecoil's guitars.I really need to check it myself first before i would say it's the best-ever though..But that's impressive stuff!I like it very much.NB:When i change my power tubes,it completely transform the amp's  sound but here (like Randall),they just change the "pre amp"'s....
Title: Is this the best amp of all times, ever?
Post by: noodleplugerine on September 02, 2007, 04:04:52 AM
The guy is an absolutely amazing player.
Title: Is this the best amp of all times, ever?
Post by: Adam.M on September 02, 2007, 05:36:20 AM
I have only one question.

Price?

I like the idea of getting the pre-amp model, or 100watt model. I'd want three channels at least.

Clean/Rhythm/Lead. Naturally.
Title: Is this the best amp of all times, ever?
Post by: samoth2 on September 02, 2007, 07:29:36 AM
$1.999 for the 50 watt head, and $389 for the modules

http://www.indoorstorm.com/advanced_search_result.php?keywords=egnater&x=0&y=0
Title: Is this the best amp of all times, ever?
Post by: Woogie on September 02, 2007, 10:38:01 AM
Big price tag!! It always seems to be the modules that bring the price right up. Over $3000 for a 50w head with 3 modules... sounds good though.
Title: Is this the best amp of all times, ever?
Post by: samoth2 on September 02, 2007, 10:42:16 AM
Quote from: Woogie
Big price tag!! It always seems to be the modules that bring the price right up. Over $3000 for a 50w head with 3 modules... sounds good though.


The $1999 includes two modules
Title: Is this the best amp of all times, ever?
Post by: Woogie on September 02, 2007, 10:45:43 AM
Ahhh bit better then!! I don't think I could choose just 3 modules though haha. I`d definitely have an SLP though.
Title: Is this the best amp of all times, ever?
Post by: samoth2 on September 02, 2007, 10:50:24 AM
Yeah, I also think SLP would be my number one 8)
Title: Is this the best amp of all times, ever?
Post by: 38thBeatle on September 02, 2007, 10:51:51 AM
I liked the Bassman module though the Vox was great too.I haven't listened to the blackface module-a bit busy today.
Title: Is this the best amp of all times, ever?
Post by: hunter on September 02, 2007, 10:58:19 AM
Quote from: 38thBeatle
I liked the Bassman module though the Vox was great too.I haven't listened to the blackface module-a bit busy today.


Bassman, Vox and Deluxe are all great, really great, Deluxe maybe in between the other two somehow. Twin not so much my cup of tea.

Guess if I'd have one, I'd start with Vox and SL2.
Title: Is this the best amp of all times, ever?
Post by: AdamB on September 03, 2007, 11:45:40 AM
That's very impressive!

I'd love an SL2 and ERECT
Title: Is this the best amp of all times, ever?
Post by: Orkestra on September 03, 2007, 03:13:36 PM
EG3/4 sounds $%&#ing great, as does the MHG
Title: Is this the best amp of all times, ever?
Post by: Orkestra on September 03, 2007, 03:16:43 PM
shite AND NOW I HEAR THE SL2... DAMN!!!!
Title: Is this the best amp of all times, ever?
Post by: Prawnik on September 04, 2007, 10:15:13 AM
I think Seymour Duncan had a similar concept back in the 1980's.  Called the "Convertible" or somesuch.

Supposed to sound good but wasn't reliable.
Title: Is this the best amp of all times, ever?
Post by: FELINEGUITARS on September 29, 2007, 02:44:09 PM
I have just looked at te modules again and so want one of these

Wonder if they can do a 4 module head.... :twisted:

Anyone want to buy my JCM 800 2205?
Title: Is this the best amp of all times, ever?
Post by: sgmypod on September 29, 2007, 02:52:51 PM
don't randall do something similar
Title: Is this the best amp of all times, ever?
Post by: Roobubba on September 29, 2007, 04:23:55 PM
yes, but from what I've heard (not tried first-hand, mind), the Randall isn't as convincing
Title: Is this the best amp of all times, ever?
Post by: AdamB on February 07, 2008, 10:01:35 AM
My Mod 50 is getting sent out today!!!

I've been waiting for this day for so long!

With EG5, SL2 and ERECT modules :D
Title: Is this the best amp of all times, ever?
Post by: hunter on February 07, 2008, 10:10:35 AM
Quote from: adammato
My Mod 50 is getting sent out today!!!

I've been waiting for this day for so long!

With EG5, SL2 and ERECT modules :D


Not bad, just 3 months delay >lol<

Seriously, that's great news. Now you HAVE TO post clips as soon as it arrives.

So you got 3 high gain modules? You are a crazy dude, but very sympathetic  :P
Title: Is this the best amp of all times, ever?
Post by: Prawnik on February 07, 2008, 10:58:24 AM
Seymour Duncan (yes, that Seymour Duncan) made a similar amp in the '80's called the "Convertible".  I think it had also different tube effects that could be plugged in in various orders.  

I haven't seen, heard or played one for years, but it was supposed to sound good but have serious reliablility problems.  I remember it sounding awesome, but the guy playing it was a freakishly good player, so that's not surprising.

This guy could play a Wal-Mart/ASDA guitar through the cheeziest knock-off amp and in his hands it would sound divine.
Title: Is this the best amp of all times, ever?
Post by: AdamB on February 07, 2008, 11:04:10 AM
Well i should be recording with my new band in a month or so, so i'll post them up as soon as it happens!

A full review will be done as soon as i get a good few hours with it :D
Title: Is this the best amp of all times, ever?
Post by: Mr Ed on February 07, 2008, 12:02:15 PM
Quote from: samoth2
$1.999 for the 50 watt head, and $389 for the modules

http://www.indoorstorm.com/advanced_search_result.php?keywords=egnater&x=0&y=0


TWO DOLLARS?!

 :wink:

I want an Egnater Mod100 so bad it makes me ache.

EDIT: Listened now! Fuuuuck, I want one more than ever now! The MHG and Erect make me, well, erect!
Title: Is this the best amp of all times, ever?
Post by: samoth2 on February 07, 2008, 01:45:21 PM
Quote from: Mr Ed
Quote from: samoth2
$1.999 for the 50 watt head, and $389 for the modules

http://www.indoorstorm.com/advanced_search_result.php?keywords=egnater&x=0&y=0


TWO DOLLARS?!

 :wink:

I want an Egnater Mod100 so bad it makes me ache.

EDIT: Listened now! Fuuuuck, I want one more than ever now! The MHG and Erect make me, well, erect!


$1,999 then  :lol:
Title: Is this the best amp of all times, ever?
Post by: Mr Ed on February 07, 2008, 02:25:27 PM
Hehe, that puts it in the pricerange of uberamps... I wonder if there'll ever be any over here to try?
Title: Is this the best amp of all times, ever?
Post by: Dakine on February 07, 2008, 02:31:35 PM
Played one cpl months ago and was'nt overly impressed.
Course the concept is great but it seemed to lack somewhat the feel/tone of a 'single purpose' amp.
Also, and this is not proven just experience in mechanical field, switching out modules could in long run cause problems. Breaking contacts on a reg. basis can cause loose fitting parts and shorts, but of course this is just my overal speculation.
Title: Is this the best amp of all times, ever?
Post by: AdamB on February 08, 2008, 10:42:33 AM
I've not heard anyone on the forums complaining about anything like this yet.

I'll have to take extra special care
Title: Is this the best amp of all times, ever?
Post by: hunter on February 08, 2008, 11:11:50 AM
Quote from: Dakine
Played one cpl months ago and was'nt overly impressed.
Course the concept is great but it seemed to lack somewhat the feel/tone of a 'single purpose' amp.
Also, and this is not proven just experience in mechanical field, switching out modules could in long run cause problems. Breaking contacts on a reg. basis can cause loose fitting parts and shorts, but of course this is just my overal speculation.


I never heard a single bad review from an owner, neither regarding sound nor regarding reliability - even in the unlikely case that something went wrong, the guys at Egnater are great when it comes to servicing their loyal customers.

But hey, there's no harm in being careful and sweet to the babe when you're switching out the modules.
Title: Is this the best amp of all times, ever?
Post by: MrBump on February 08, 2008, 12:40:45 PM
Those clips are really good.  That's EXACTLY what you need when creating a shortlist...

Ditto the Randall comments.  I was really tempted by the 100 watt modular Randall combo, but it was well over a grand at the time.  Potentially the same price as the 50watt version of the Egnator in the UK?

I'd be really tempted though.  Very nice.  Don't buy into the Jack of All Trades, Master Of None.  I think that with things like this you're not cloning a sound, you're getting into that particular ball park, then making it your own.

Mark.
Title: Is this the best amp of all times, ever?
Post by: Mr Ed on February 08, 2008, 12:46:31 PM
Quote from: MrBump
I'd be really tempted though.  Very nice.  Don't buy into the Jack of All Trades, Master Of None.  I think that with things like this you're not cloning a sound, you're getting into that particular ball park, then making it your own.


Nicely put.
Title: Is this the best amp of all times, ever?
Post by: Gizmo on February 08, 2008, 12:54:57 PM
how much are they in the UK then? The US prices are there but in the UK there is always a premium for importing and then some just for measure.

Can the rack (that holds 4 modules) be linked to the amp so you can have 6 or 7 modules or are they separate entities?

What would these sound like at lower volumes?.... Going back the debate about a gd sound at low volume and some people's opinions that large amps sound better then low watt ones!?
Title: Is this the best amp of all times, ever?
Post by: AdamB on February 08, 2008, 01:06:39 PM
They're releasing the E2 (i think it's called that) that hold a few more modules and can be linked up with the mod 50

The m4 (that holds 4 modules) is only a pre amp

My mod 50 with an extra module (3 in total) and shipping including insurance has come to roughly £1400

I may have to pay some tax on that which i'm not looking forward to
Title: Is this the best amp of all times, ever?
Post by: AdamB on February 08, 2008, 01:07:59 PM
I'm kind of tempted to get an Egnater 4x12 too, just so it matches even though the spec is virtually identical to my mesa

I'm just being vein now, but it would look lovely!
Title: Is this the best amp of all times, ever?
Post by: Dakine on February 08, 2008, 02:44:56 PM
Quote from: hunter
Quote from: Dakine
Played one cpl months ago and was'nt overly impressed.
Course the concept is great but it seemed to lack somewhat the feel/tone of a 'single purpose' amp.
Also, and this is not proven just experience in mechanical field, switching out modules could in long run cause problems. Breaking contacts on a reg. basis can cause loose fitting parts and shorts, but of course this is just my overal speculation.


I never heard a single bad review from an owner, neither regarding sound nor regarding reliability - even in the unlikely case that something went wrong, the guys at Egnater are great when it comes to servicing their loyal customers.

But hey, there's no harm in being careful and sweet to the babe when you're switching out the modules.


I havnt heard anything either, just thinking out loud. Bruce Egnator sounds a great guy, just 'moving parts' and all that.

As for sound, I just did'nt like it. Then again I don't like the Diezel Herbert after playing it alot either :)

As for it all, this is akin to what's being done here (not technology wise but theory wise, 'swiss army' and all that);

http://www.fractalaudio.com/

Guess am just abit 'old fashioned' :)
Title: Is this the best amp of all times, ever?
Post by: AdamB on February 08, 2008, 09:20:39 PM
The FedEx site says the estimated delivery is the 13th!

Lets hope it doesn't get stuck in customs for ages like my guitar did (3 weeks!!!)
Title: Is this the best amp of all times, ever?
Post by: AdamB on February 10, 2008, 12:00:54 PM
It's in Stansted at the moment!
Title: Is this the best amp of all times, ever?
Post by: Mr Ed on February 11, 2008, 10:21:07 AM
When does it arrive at my house? :)
Title: Is this the best amp of all times, ever?
Post by: hunter on February 11, 2008, 05:33:13 PM
Quote from: adammato
It's in Stansted at the moment!


Maaan, it's about time you post some jealousmaking clips dude!

I wanna hear that EG5 scream now pushed hard by some BKPs  :twisted:
Title: Is this the best amp of all times, ever?
Post by: AdamB on February 14, 2008, 09:17:43 AM
Looks like it's stuck in customs

The estimated delivery date was the 13th, it now doesn't have an estimated delivery date :(

It's been in Stansted since the 9th, grrrr!
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Post by: Mr Ed on February 14, 2008, 10:29:57 AM
Customs, what a bunch of arseholes!  :x
Title: Is this the best amp of all times, ever?
Post by: AdamB on February 14, 2008, 10:36:24 AM
They probably think a valve is a bomb
Title: Is this the best amp of all times, ever?
Post by: Mr Ed on February 14, 2008, 11:02:34 AM
Haha probably. The Foos latest album probably won't have helped things either:

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/68/Foos-ESPG.jpg)
Title: Is this the best amp of all times, ever?
Post by: hunter on February 14, 2008, 05:54:15 PM
Quote from: Mr Ed
Customs, what a bunch of arseholes!  :x


Well, customs are built for the sake of making international trade difficult (cost and process wise).

They are a protectionist action from the government, for the national manufacturers and against the consumers and international manufacturers.

Customs suck coz they're supposed to.

I suggest you go vote on the next elections for an economically liberal party, maybe it's gonna change something.
Title: Is this the best amp of all times, ever?
Post by: AdamB on February 14, 2008, 08:51:00 PM
My flight case is now being made for it, if they came at the same time, that'd be good :)
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Post by: AdamB on February 19, 2008, 04:56:27 PM
Just paid £272 something vat/customs

It should be here soon :)
Title: Is this the best amp of all times, ever?
Post by: DeanS on February 19, 2008, 05:06:48 PM
Quote from: hunter
Quote from: Mr Ed
Customs, what a bunch of arseholes!  :x


Well, customs are built for the sake of making international trade difficult (cost and process wise).

They are a protectionist action from the government, for the national manufacturers and against the consumers and international manufacturers.

Customs suck coz they're supposed to.

I suggest you go vote on the next elections for an economically liberal party, maybe it's gonna change something.


Right on Comrade! :wink: