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Title: New Guitar Day - Fender Baja Tele
Post by: hunter on September 12, 2007, 06:44:40 PM
just got it today, rocks like ass!!

Check Pos. 4 with S1 enabled, sounds not a bit like Tele but awesome anyways ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jITrZDFi8XY
Title: New Guitar Day - Fender Baja Tele
Post by: _tom_ on September 12, 2007, 06:56:47 PM
That looks awesome - that colour scheme is the ultimate for a tele! Sounds great as well, any chance you could do some clips of it with a proper mic through the shiva?
Title: New Guitar Day - Fender Baja Tele
Post by: Philly Q on September 12, 2007, 07:07:39 PM
Bugger, can't see the picture here.  I'll have to wait until I get home.
Title: New Guitar Day - Fender Baja Tele
Post by: hunter on September 12, 2007, 07:07:46 PM
Quote from: _tom_
That looks awesome - that colour scheme is the ultimate for a tele! Sounds great as well, any chance you could do some clips of it with a proper mic through the shiva?


Will do, might have to be at the weekend though.

Wondering whether this guitar needs BKPs, at the moment those custom shop fender pickups seem to do just fine ...

well always like this with new guitars though  :lol:
Title: New Guitar Day - Fender Baja Tele
Post by: hunter on September 12, 2007, 07:11:04 PM
Quote from: Philly Q
Bugger, can't see the picture here.  I'll have to wait until I get home.


Philly, it's just a blurry pic of a blonde Tele. The Baja is real good value for money, I paid 599 EUR which is pretty cool for this guitar.

Is 4Kg very heavy for a Tele?
Title: New Guitar Day - Fender Baja Tele
Post by: HTH AMPS on September 12, 2007, 09:32:54 PM
Quote from: hunter
Quote from: Philly Q
Bugger, can't see the picture here.  I'll have to wait until I get home.


Philly, it's just a blurry pic of a blonde Tele. The Baja is real good value for money, I paid 599 EUR which is pretty cool for this guitar.

Is 4Kg very heavy for a Tele?


hmm, 8.8lbs ain't really light for a Tele imo - you're in the lower end of Les Paul territory there mate.

 :twisted:
Title: New Guitar Day - Fender Baja Tele
Post by: Philly Q on September 12, 2007, 09:35:17 PM
Quote from: hunter
Is 4Kg very heavy for a Tele?

It's not exceptionally heavy for an ash bodied Tele (assuming it's not swamp ash).  My American Ash Tele is over 9lb, I'm fairly certain - but I'm replacing the body with an alder one.

I do find that a heavy Tele isn't quite as uncomfortable as other heavy guitars, because it's well balanced.  It just sort of hangs there, whereas with some very heavy (or very light) guitars the body tries to swing round behind your back and the neck sticks out at a funny angle.  Or maybe I just have a funny body shape.  :?
Title: New Guitar Day - Fender Baja Tele
Post by: Twinfan on September 12, 2007, 10:40:42 PM
I tried a Baja Tele the other day - very nice guitar but the weight put me off.  A Tele, to me, should be very light and resonant.  Mind you, if a heavy one sounds good then it must be OK!
Title: New Guitar Day - Fender Baja Tele
Post by: hunter on September 12, 2007, 10:49:44 PM
It's my first Tele, and I'm hooked. I can understand now that Gibbons and Page both liked Teles and Les Pauls, as they have somehow similar qualities. Tele is more rough than a LP, but anyway, gotta love that design. Maybe this is not gonna be my last :o)
Title: New Guitar Day - Fender Baja Tele
Post by: Elliot on September 12, 2007, 11:35:23 PM
WOW that looks and sounds the biz - damn I want one!
Title: New Guitar Day - Fender Baja Tele
Post by: indysmith on September 13, 2007, 09:14:54 AM
it's pronounced "ba-ha" not "badger" lol
SWEET guitar. It sounds like a sex too!
Title: New Guitar Day - Fender Baja Tele
Post by: 38thBeatle on September 13, 2007, 09:16:12 AM
My local store had one in and I was interested in having a go-even more so now but I am not in the market for one-quite happy with my Tele.
Title: New Guitar Day - Fender Baja Tele
Post by: horsehead on September 13, 2007, 01:45:48 PM
BAHA, BAHA, BAHA, BAHA MUSHROOM, MUSHROOM!

sorry


I love the look of it but I don't know if it's worth p/x my tele in for it, though guitarist give it a recomendation as well as yours Hunter
Title: New Guitar Day - Fender Baja Tele
Post by: Crazy_Joe on September 13, 2007, 01:46:16 PM
Nice! still got the tags on and everything :P
Title: New Guitar Day - Fender Baja Tele
Post by: hunter on September 13, 2007, 02:58:46 PM
Quote from: Crazy_Joe
Nice! still got the tags on and everything :P


Well it was really out of the box. Last night put new strings etc. Intonation was off in fact, and the neck needed some relief, but now it's very good. Was not too bad when I got it though to be fair.

When I did the video I was still not sure whether I'll keep it but now the tags have been removed.

Blonde ones are real hard to find but where I got mine, they have one left
http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=160154564684

Go for it :o)
Title: New Guitar Day - Fender Baja Tele
Post by: Deadstar on September 13, 2007, 03:33:06 PM
What the hell, every time i plan to go out and get something you seem to snap one up before I have a chance. It happened with the Tiny Terror and now this, exact same guitar - colour and everything. I think theres a conspiracy  :!:
Title: New Guitar Day - Fender Baja Tele
Post by: hunter on September 13, 2007, 03:49:16 PM
Quote from: Deadstar
What the hell, every time i plan to go out and get something you seem to snap one up before I have a chance. It happened with the Tiny Terror and now this, exact same guitar - colour and everything. I think theres a conspiracy  :!:


And you forgot that while you quote Einstein in your signature, I'm playing on him already  :P

Ok that was horrible, I apologise.

Well, good luck with the Baja, it's fun, those switching options are way cool, wondering if it would be similarly useful to be able to do phase and serial/parallel on my other (2xHB) guitars...
Title: New Guitar Day - Fender Baja Tele
Post by: Dakine on September 13, 2007, 06:27:24 PM
Just bought a 'proper' tele myself (not lumping my FlatHeads as such  :twisted: )

Highway 1 Texas Edt. and she truly rawks!

I went Texas edt. due to the 12" radius neck which is not currently offered on any other Fender bar the EJ Strat (my FlatHeads are 12" ya see).

(http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j279/DakineTX/DSC01307.jpg)
Title: New Guitar Day - Fender Baja Tele
Post by: hunter on September 13, 2007, 06:40:21 PM
Quote from: Dakine
Just bought a 'proper' tele myself (not lumping my FlatHeads as such  :twisted: )

Highway 1 Texas Edt. and she truly rawks!

I went Texas edt. due to the 12" radius neck which is not currently offered on any other Fender bar the EJ Strat (my FlatHeads are 12" ya see).

(http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j279/DakineTX/DSC01307.jpg)

wahhh that Bogner Cab and Nano head are a sweeet couple man

Teles are great. I might lose my interest in Humbuckers for a while ...
Title: New Guitar Day - Fender Baja Tele
Post by: Dakine on September 13, 2007, 06:56:22 PM
Thanks bud, the pair really do mesh well.

In fact believe am just gonna get another Bogner cube and run two when finally get my new head.
Title: New Guitar Day - Fender Baja Tele
Post by: Philly Q on September 13, 2007, 07:04:34 PM
Quote from: Dakine
I went Texas edt. due to the 12" radius neck which is not currently offered on any other Fender bar the EJ Strat

And the Classic Player '60s Strat (sorry, being a smartarse  :oops: )

Like the finish on that Highway 1!
Title: New Guitar Day - Fender Baja Tele
Post by: hunter on September 13, 2007, 07:08:38 PM
Quote from: Dakine
In fact believe am just gonna get another Bogner cube and run two when finally get my new head.


What's it gona be? I could talk amps for ages ... 8)
Title: New Guitar Day - Fender Baja Tele
Post by: Dakine on September 13, 2007, 07:09:03 PM
AHA, thanks Philly.
NOT interested in a Fender Strat though anyways :) Going diff. route for that :)

Kinda like the finish myself. And if ya look at it hard it begins to relic so should look beat up real soon from all the playing. The thin finish really lets her breath too. And, surprisingly (ssshhhhh) the three brass saddles are thus far behaving themselves lol.
Title: New Guitar Day - Fender Baja Tele
Post by: Dakine on September 13, 2007, 07:11:46 PM
Quote from: hunter
Quote from: Dakine
In fact believe am just gonna get another Bogner cube and run two when finally get my new head.


What's it gona be? I could talk amps for ages ... 8)


lol, you can be the second to know :)

Lets say the Suhr Badger, Fargen Mini-Plex II and Reinhardt (with PS) are all in running but am talking to a small custom amp builder here next week and testing some of his gear so will see.
Title: New Guitar Day - Fender Baja Tele
Post by: hunter on September 13, 2007, 07:14:21 PM
Quote from: Dakine

Lets say the Suhr Badger, Fargen Mini-Plex II and Reinhardt (with PS) are all in running but am talking to a small custom amp builder here next week and testing some of his gear so will see.


Hmm, sound wise it would be the MiniPlex for me, but the badger has a loop, which makes it more versatile and useable for some applications ... but who needs effects with an amp like the Plex ...
Title: New Guitar Day - Fender Baja Tele
Post by: Dakine on September 13, 2007, 07:20:44 PM
my internal jury is still out here.
My mate has heard some of this builders stuff and was blown away so am waiting to see there.
Lets be honest, when you price these things alot comes into 'name' and profit (just look what ceriatone sells their stuff for, kit-partial-complete). So, will await with baited breath what this guy has done so far and can do, money is money after all and the tone is what matters so if can get what I want without the 'name' and cheaper then I will be v.happy!

Also, have yet to try a Fargen yet to a/b with the badger I did, which makes a diff. to me too. Soundclips are all well and good,but.........
Title: New Guitar Day - Fender Baja Tele
Post by: Twinfan on September 13, 2007, 09:44:57 PM
Dakine,

Your reasoning is exactly why I'm picking up a Ceriatone-based JTM45 (built by a local engineer and amp guru) this weekend.  Half the price of a Marshall handwired and all the other boutique offerings...
Title: New Guitar Day - Fender Baja Tele
Post by: Dakine on September 13, 2007, 10:04:01 PM
Well, NOT putting down John Suhr, Reinhardt etc., BUT, the components are not THE most costly and tbh the job (if bought in kit form) is not rocket science.
Now, for mods and 'new' ideas, sure, 'known' amp makers are amazing. But nowadays it is very easy for someone to get what would be a high price booteek amp for way less money by assembling yourself or even getting a tech. to do it.
It is also a WONDERFUL way to learn more about tube amps etc. and become more educated on them.
He was ill but 'ampmaker' who is in the UK sells a VERY reasonable and easy kit which is highly regarded and a great intro to tube amps.

The power scaling box is $200 or about 100gbp, not a whole lot when ya think about attenuators etc. which do not come close to this. Just 1 example of the bits and pieces that don't actually add up to thousands.

Course, we are not trying to make a living, pay wages, pay overheads, pay taxes from amp building, but still ;) Nik at Ceriatone has ruffled ALOT of feathers this side of the pond thats for sure!

And I realise I am currently in the US but most venues here if needing great volume have a PA, and those that don't well ya just run ya amp.
What I mean is, really, who NEEDS a 100watt amp these days?
With PS (from my ears) tone is now not an issue (ie can get that sat. tone at low vol.) so with modern gigs (with PA) why go gung ho?

And this is coming from me sitting in a country that STILL builds V10 cars, sheesh  :roll:

18watt or even 30 if ya must is LOUD!!!!!!!!!!! and can now be enjoyed at bedroom levels.

I smell an amp revolution coming.

Statistics show guitar sales are historically VERY high and most are bedroom players. To me this means bedroom volumes but wanting that 'my hero' tone.

Exciting times me thinks.
Title: New Guitar Day - Fender Baja Tele
Post by: Twinfan on September 13, 2007, 10:09:45 PM
He can ruffle as many feathers as he wants as long as he stays in business for a bit.  I might want my amp dude to build me a twin transformer JTM45/100 and I'll need some bits off Nik...
Title: New Guitar Day - Fender Baja Tele
Post by: hunter on September 15, 2007, 08:02:49 AM
_tom_ was asking for a decent clip of the Bahhha Tele, here I did some

http://www.thegutbusters.com/temp/bahhhha.mp3
Title: New Guitar Day - Fender Baja Tele
Post by: _tom_ on September 17, 2007, 09:49:52 AM
Wow hunter that sounds bloody awesome :o Seriously making me re-consider even owning a strat, that just sounds like my strat +1 but with that additional 4th position that sounds huge! I may have allready asked you about this, but what do you use for your drums? They sound much more realistic than EZ Drummer.
Title: New Guitar Day - Fender Baja Tele
Post by: Deadstar on September 18, 2007, 12:56:24 PM
Ok, I went out and bought it, fell in love  :P damn you and your magical influence

Plays great and the addition of the S1 switch is a great idea, makes the guitar  have much more versatility.

Oh and I got a little bogner 1x12 loaded with a celestion V30 for my Tiny Terror, sound is absolutely brilliant now  :D
Title: New Guitar Day - Fender Baja Tele
Post by: hunter on September 19, 2007, 07:50:34 PM
Quote from: Deadstar
Ok, I went out and bought it, fell in love  :P damn you and your magical influence


...so which BKPs are you gonna throw in there?

Quote from: Deadstar
Oh and I got a little bogner 1x12 loaded with a celestion V30 for my Tiny Terror, sound is absolutely brilliant now  :D


Full of envy hunter now is  :cry:
Title: New Guitar Day - Fender Baja Tele
Post by: Twinfan on October 25, 2007, 09:38:46 AM
Quote from: Deadstar
Ok, I went out and bought it, fell in love  :P damn you and your magical influence


Join the club   :roll:

I chopped in my Epiphone Casino for a Baja Tele at the weekend.  I wanted a Tele for my new band and my Baja is a cracker.  They have to be the steal of the century?

Tele's are the Fender for Gibson guys  ;)
Title: New Guitar Day - Fender Baja Tele
Post by: Mr Ed on October 25, 2007, 10:16:53 AM
What makes the Baja Tele so special? Anyone?

 :D
Title: New Guitar Day - Fender Baja Tele
Post by: Twinfan on October 25, 2007, 10:50:16 AM
Quote from: Mr Ed
What makes the Baja Tele so special?


It's the spec versus the price:

* Vintage correct "ashtray" bridge with brass saddles
* Ash body (mine is three equally sized pieces)
* Chunky one-piece maple neck (full U shape, mine is lightly figured in a couple of places)
* Fender Custom Shop pickups that really suit the guitar (sorry Tim, no BKPs for this one...)
* Four way selector switch with S1 phase switching too

It's basically a great sounding traditional tele with all the twang you need, (and without the brash ice-pick treble), with the additional tone options of the S1 and four way.  For £400-ish.  Look on it as a Mexican version of the US '52 Hot Rod Tele.  95+% of the guitar for around a third of the price.

I played mine at rehearsal last night as was blown away by the tone.  Awesome through my Tiny Terror and G12H/V30 2x12.
Title: New Guitar Day - Fender Baja Tele
Post by: Mr Ed on October 25, 2007, 11:08:40 AM
Aces mate. :D

I've got the parts at home for building a Tele but I just can't see me getting round to it so I wanna sell them and buy a Tele but I don't think that "regular" Tele twang is for me... but a hot rodded one? Well that sounds just about perfect for moi seeing as I'm a gain whore!

One thing that always bugs me... I hear two different sides of the 3 or 6 bridge saddles argument for Teles:

1. Some say that 3 increases sustain and stability (as there are two strings worth of pressure on each saddle).
2. Some say that 3 don't stay in tune as well as 6 do.

Huh? :(

Also, so this position 4 with the S1 engaged, is that gonna be like a 'bucker tone?
Title: New Guitar Day - Fender Baja Tele
Post by: _tom_ on October 25, 2007, 12:36:22 PM
Quote from: Twinfan
Quote from: Mr Ed
What makes the Baja Tele so special?


It's the spec versus the price:

* Vintage correct "ashtray" bridge with brass saddles
* Ash body (mine is three equally sized pieces)
* Chunky one-piece maple neck (full U shape, mine is lightly figured in a couple of places)
* Fender Custom Shop pickups that really suit the guitar (sorry Tim, no BKPs for this one...)
* Four way selector switch with S1 phase switching too

It's basically a great sounding traditional tele with all the twang you need, (and without the brash ice-pick treble), with the additional tone options of the S1 and four way.  For £400-ish.  Look on it as a Mexican version of the US '52 Hot Rod Tele.  95+% of the guitar for around a third of the price.

I played mine at rehearsal last night as was blown away by the tone.  Awesome through my Tiny Terror and G12H/V30 2x12.


According to the Fender and Thomann websites the Baja has a soft v-profile neck :? These teles seem like such good value for money, only about £400 from thomann! I really want to get one, hopefully the prices on them stay low until I can afford one!

I'm guessing the neck feels like the strat neck I bought off Philking a while ago, only with a flatter radius which was the only reason I didnt like that neck!
Title: New Guitar Day - Fender Baja Tele
Post by: Mr Ed on October 25, 2007, 12:41:14 PM
I want one of these so badly... I need to see the vids/hear the soundclips but it sounds to me exactly like what I want in a Tele - the ability to hotrod the $%&# out of it and get some extra juice to suit my gainy style.
Title: New Guitar Day - Fender Baja Tele
Post by: Twinfan on October 25, 2007, 01:20:47 PM
Quote from: _tom_
According to the Fender and Thomann websites the Baja has a soft v-profile neck :?


Soft V or U?  Same thing innit  ;)

And yep, it's got the more modern flatter radius fingerboard.
Title: New Guitar Day - Fender Baja Tele
Post by: Philly Q on October 25, 2007, 01:40:34 PM
Quote from: Mr Ed
2. Some say that 3 don't stay in tune as well as 6 do.

Huh? :(

They stay in tune fine, but it's harder to get the intonation correct.  There are a number of manufacturers who make replacement saddles for better intonation, either by simply slanting them or by contouring the tops of the saddles.  Callaham, Wilkinson and Joe Barden spring to mind, but I'm sure there are others too.

The 6-saddle ashtray bridges always feel a bit flimsy and fiddly to me.  The more modern Gotoh bridges with thicker baseplates and 6 saddles are fine, but they definitely take away some of the traditional Tele tone (if that's what you want).

Quote from: Twinfan
Soft V or U? Same thing innit  :wink:
 
Dunno, I think a soft V should be a V with a rounded bottom (oo-er) but a U should have straighter sides.  Like a deeper D-shape I suppose.  That said, my American Ash Tele neck is supposed to be U-shaped but there's a hint of V, in my opinion.  Whatever, I like it.
Title: New Guitar Day - Fender Baja Tele
Post by: Ratrod on October 25, 2007, 01:51:31 PM
Tele GAS is getting to me again. There's so many nice and affordable Tele's around. The Baja Tele in this thread;

 the Lite Ash Tele. Tried it a while ago. Great guitar. Ash body, 3 brass saddles, birds eye maple neck and SD AII pro pickups. It screamed ZZ-Top;

the Squier standard Tele. Our bassist bought one. Agathis body in a walnut stain (gorgeous!), 6 saddle alumium bridge, maple neck with rosewood board. I haven't heard it through an amp yet but I was surprised by the excellent fretwork and super comfy and playable neck.
Title: New Guitar Day - Fender Baja Tele
Post by: badgermark on October 25, 2007, 04:04:00 PM
Well I bought a pristine MIM Tele off a friend at Christmas, and fell in love. Whap some 11s on it, followed by some Country Boys and a 4-way switch and it's godly. Such a great tone machine, and can even cope with chunky gain from my well loved Big Muff. I loves teles I do.

THIS (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdEfW6pQo1o) is an awesome Baja review, check out his other videos, takes the piss out of the shitety gearwire stuff out there.
Title: New Guitar Day - Fender Baja Tele
Post by: hunter on October 25, 2007, 04:16:10 PM
Quote from: Mr Ed
2. Some say that 3 don't stay in tune as well as 6 do.

Huh? :(

Also, so this position 4 with the S1 engaged, is that gonna be like a 'bucker tone?


Mine stays in tune rather well, depending on how extreme you go with those behind the nut bends.

Pos 4 with S1 in is more of a wah mid honk thing, but more subtle than a wah, where overtones jump out of the cab with ease and the sound is more about harmonics than teh actual base frequencies. Quite awesome if you up the gain.