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Title: Gibson Tuning system
Post by: Will on September 13, 2007, 08:47:22 PM
http://www.gibson.com/en-us/Lifestyle/Features/Introducing%20Powertune_%20Gibson_/

Well a friend just showed me that, just thought i would let the rest of you know about it.

(in time out as i guess it fits here)
Title: Gibson Tuning system
Post by: noodleplugerine on September 13, 2007, 09:49:18 PM
So they're really taking it on..

I was suprised when I first heard about it - I doubt anybody will buy it.
Title: Gibson Tuning system
Post by: WezV on September 13, 2007, 10:03:14 PM
you can buy the system seperately for about £600

http://www.tronical.com/


maybe when they get it down to around £150 it will be worth considering
Title: Gibson Tuning system
Post by: indysmith on September 13, 2007, 10:04:41 PM
Noone will buy it partly because it just doesnt fit with Gibson's image. If Ibanez used it then maybe, but only maybe because it's clearly going to cost a BOMB, have many drawbacks and hiccups, and just not be RAWK enough. plus it's just another thing to go wrong.
Title: Gibson Tuning system
Post by: Dakine on September 13, 2007, 10:20:41 PM
I do believe I saw Jimmy Page using this (maybe a prototype).
Title: Gibson Tuning system
Post by: Will on September 13, 2007, 10:25:34 PM
Page used a different one with an LCD didn't he?
I was going to have a look at those to compare them (general interest, not going to buy one) but couldn't remember what they were called

£600 is a lot, I agree with Wez, would be fun and convenient for 150, but thats about it

looks like these have been around for a bit and I was a little slow :P
Title: Gibson Tuning system
Post by: Dakine on September 13, 2007, 10:27:50 PM
^ did'nt pay much attention as I am more 'old skool', just thought mightta been a proto
Title: Gibson Tuning system
Post by: Philly Q on September 13, 2007, 10:30:33 PM
Page certainly had something called the Transperformance (http://transperformance.com/test/f_jim.html) Performer bridge system.

It was quite a few years ago, as you can tell from the pic of the black-haired, slimline JP!
Title: Gibson Tuning system
Post by: sgmypod on September 13, 2007, 10:31:00 PM
Gibson doing a line6 idea then
Title: Gibson Tuning system
Post by: blue on September 13, 2007, 10:38:58 PM
Quote from: sgmypod
Gibson doing a line6 idea then


no, line 6 (and Fender) change the tuning through digital pitch shifting, the Gibson system actually moves the machine heads to physically change the tuning of the strings.  

as a no extra cost feature i can see it catching on, it's perfect for beginners,  but currently i can't really see who's going to use it.  first saw this about three years ago, so everyone check back in another few years to see does it still exist  :wink:   remember, most guitarists are luddites!
Title: Gibson Tuning system
Post by: Philly Q on September 13, 2007, 10:47:57 PM
Clever idea, but I wonder how much it weighs?  I have visions of letting go of the neck for a second and the headstock plummeting towards the floor....

It's not as if tuning a guitar is actually all that difficult or time-consuming in the first place... but I suppose if you used different tunings for every song it would be neat.
Title: Gibson Tuning system
Post by: blue on September 13, 2007, 10:51:39 PM
actually, what we all need is a little Richard Thompson sitting on our headstock, happily tuning away between tunes while entertaining everyone with anecdotes about what he got up to in the sixties  :wink:
Title: Gibson Tuning system
Post by: WezV on September 13, 2007, 11:03:34 PM
automatic tuning is a great idea, eventually it will catch on to the masses but i dont think this is the ideal solution just yet

It is relatively uninvasive which has to be a good thing.

one question, can you actually use the tuner buttons as normal?  They are apparently locking tuners so restringing is ok but what happens if i am dumb enough to try and tune normally!!
Title: Gibson Tuning system
Post by: Philly Q on September 13, 2007, 11:07:26 PM
Quote from: blue
actually, what we all need is a little Richard Thompson sitting on our headstock, happily tuning away between tunes while entertaining everyone with anecdotes about what he got up to in the sixties  :wink:

 :lol:  :lol: Brilliant idea!  Down the patent office with it quick!

He'd probably be a bit lighter than the Gibson tuners too.

Quote from: WezV
one question, can you actually use the tuner buttons as normal?

Apparently you can - "In the event that you are caught out with a low battery, the Powerheads can function as standard tuners for manual tuning." Phew!
Title: Gibson Tuning system
Post by: HTH AMPS on September 13, 2007, 11:29:48 PM
Quote from: blue
actually, what we all need is a little Richard Thompson sitting on our headstock, happily tuning away between tunes while entertaining everyone with anecdotes about what he got up to in the sixties  :wink:


...and then another little Richard Thompson on the bridge so you can fingerpick as good as that envy-enducing git.

 :twisted:
Title: Gibson Tuning system
Post by: Crazy_Joe on September 14, 2007, 09:40:25 AM
Isn't this just a LP version of the VG strat?
Title: Gibson Tuning system
Post by: Will on September 14, 2007, 09:56:42 AM
nop, VG strat changes the pitch, this changes the tuning
Title: Gibson Tuning system
Post by: Crazy_Joe on September 14, 2007, 10:38:48 AM
I thought the VG strat did that too?
Title: Gibson Tuning system
Post by: WezV on September 14, 2007, 10:46:00 AM
The VG strat essentially has a pitch shifter.  You play strings that are tuned normally and it changes the note to a different tuning for you.

this system physically re-tunes the strings rather than modelling the tuning
Title: Gibson Tuning system
Post by: sgmypod on September 14, 2007, 11:15:55 AM
ahh clever, but as Philly says wonder how much it weighs
Title: Gibson Tuning system
Post by: Crazy_Joe on September 14, 2007, 12:04:18 PM
Quote from: WezV
The VG strat essentially has a pitch shifter.  You play strings that are tuned normally and it changes the note to a different tuning for you.

this system physically re-tunes the strings rather than modelling the tuning


Ahh right i get it now, thanks for that :D
Title: Gibson Tuning system
Post by: Will on September 14, 2007, 04:37:58 PM
Quote from: sgmypod
ahh clever, but as Philly says wonder how much it weighs


on the website that Wez linked. it said that it is the same weight as gotoh tuners
Title: Gibson Tuning system
Post by: Philly Q on September 14, 2007, 09:04:20 PM
Quote from: Will
on the website that Wez linked. it said that it is the same weight as gotoh tuners

That's pretty impressive - look at the pics of the Strat tuners in this review (http://www.tronical.com/downloads/git_bass_artikel.pdf), they're enormous!