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Forum Ringside => Players => Topic started by: Antag on September 28, 2007, 12:58:01 PM

Title: A few Holy Diver myths laid to rest... (EDIT: take 2 on pg2)
Post by: Antag on September 28, 2007, 12:58:01 PM
Sorry for the lame pun in the title :)  Just threw this clip together for those who mistakenly believe that:
a) Holy Diver can't do METAL
b) Holy Diver doesn't work in Les Pauls
(Actually, I threw it together while trying to figure out how to use my new recorder, but that's a story for another thread ;))

Guitar: Gibson Les Paul std, chrome-covered Holy Diver set, D'Addario 10-52s
Amp: Engl Savage 120, Mesa Recto 2x12" (Vintage 30s)
FX: TC Electronic G-Major (chorus/rev/delay on clean channel), BBE 482 (overdrive channel), Morley Bad Horsie (very briefly)
Mic/Recording: Shure SM57, Presonus BlueTube, Fostex MR16HD

Enjoy :)
Title: Re: A few Holy Diver myths laid to rest...
Post by: wintersun on September 28, 2007, 01:20:34 PM
Wow!!! I like it! Maybe a little bit too bassy, but its great!
Title: A few Holy Diver myths laid to rest... (EDIT: take 2 on pg2)
Post by: Bird on September 28, 2007, 02:34:28 PM
Cool  :twisted:  :twisted:
Title: A few Holy Diver myths laid to rest... (EDIT: take 2 on pg2)
Post by: indysmith on September 28, 2007, 02:34:40 PM
too scooped and bassy but definitely got potential
Title: A few Holy Diver myths laid to rest... (EDIT: take 2 on pg2)
Post by: il˙ti on September 28, 2007, 03:03:51 PM
Got an early DT sound going there, but much thicker. I quite like it.
Title: A few Holy Diver myths laid to rest... (EDIT: take 2 on pg2)
Post by: opprobrium_9 on September 28, 2007, 09:35:46 PM
waaaaaaay too bassy.  decent riffs, but use a Low Cut filter by all means  :P
Title: A few Holy Diver myths laid to rest... (EDIT: take 2 on pg2)
Post by: Antag on September 28, 2007, 10:04:50 PM
:lol: Perhaps I did overdo it a bit :)

FWIW I've changed almost my entire recording setup (as well as my amp!) since I last recorded anything, so still getting used to the new gear.

Probably one of the most significant changes was getting "proper" studio headphones (Beyer DT100).  I was using some Panasonic HiFi headphones before which colour the sound, adding a lot of bass, so what I used to heard wasn't a million miles away from what HiFi speakers were doing to the sound on playback.  With the DT100s it didn't sound that bassy when I recorded - in fact I was hitting the strings as hard as I could because I thought it needed more "oomph" :lol:

Oh well, you get the idea - Holy Divers can go m***********g heavy :twisted:

PS: For those who didn't get the title, this clip is loosely derived from a Rob Halford song called "Laid to Rest" on the first Fight CD...
Title: Re: A few Holy Diver myths laid to rest...
Post by: fps_dean on September 29, 2007, 03:17:12 AM
Quote from: wintersun
Wow!!! I like it! Maybe a little bit too bassy, but its great!


Agreed.  It certainly has the chug and drive required, just maybe a little too much bass.

Try re-recording and turning the bass down, that may be all you need.
Title: A few Holy Diver myths laid to rest... (EDIT: take 2 on pg2)
Post by: HTH AMPS on September 29, 2007, 01:58:55 PM
I'd like to hear them with more mids dialled in, way too scooped for my tastes.  Plenty of chunk in the low end though.

 :twisted:
Title: A few Holy Diver myths laid to rest... (EDIT: take 2 on pg2)
Post by: Crazy_Joe on September 29, 2007, 03:51:59 PM
It's brutal :evil:  awesome work as always Antag!
Title: A few Holy Diver myths laid to rest... (EDIT: take 2 on pg2)
Post by: fps_dean on September 29, 2007, 08:28:15 PM
Quote from: HEAVIER THAN HELL
I'd like to hear them with more mids dialled in, way too scooped for my tastes.  Plenty of chunk in the low end though.

 :twisted:


I think if he lowered the bass a bit that would improve the mids more than you think too, but yeah the mids could definitely come up.
Title: A few Holy Diver myths laid to rest... (EDIT: take 2 on pg2)
Post by: Tone Deaf Guru on October 05, 2007, 05:22:10 PM
I like it, sounds a lot like Jerry Cantrell.  :D
Title: A few Holy Diver myths laid to rest... (EDIT: take 2 on pg2)
Post by: Jazz Rock on October 06, 2007, 10:06:15 AM
That's really good, quite moody.

It reminds me of the soundtrack of Vidocq (might not ring a bell as it is a French movie, not sure it has been subtitled or dubbed) But basically the music was helping creating the thick and  heavy ambiance of the backstreet basement of 18th century Paris. It was working really well as the movie is a sci-fi / crime story of 3 century ago.

For further reference think of a band like Apocalyptica (the one that used to do Metallica covers with cellos and other distorted classical instruments.
Title: A few Holy Diver myths laid to rest... (EDIT: take 2 on pg2)
Post by: JJretroTONEGOD on October 07, 2007, 04:37:30 PM
It's bassy, but if you used a multi band compressor to control the bass end it'd be fine, if you have one. Anyhow, it's good playing and tone regardless, and you can see that they have quite some power to them.
Title: A few Holy Diver myths laid to rest... (EDIT: take 2 on pg2)
Post by: Stevepage on October 07, 2007, 05:09:25 PM
I never knew the Savage could sound like that, I thought it was more along the lines of the JCM800. I want one now, damn you!
Title: A few Holy Diver myths laid to rest... (EDIT: take 2 on pg2)
Post by: Antag on October 10, 2007, 11:39:08 AM
Thanks for the comments everyone, here's take 2 :-)

The gear & setup was exactly the same, but I changed a few settings:
On the Savage, turned the bass down by 1 & the mid up by 1
On the BBE turned the "Lo Contour" down by 1
On the mic preamp engaged the 80hz filter

Still a little bassy, but less than take 1.  Enjoy :)
Title: A few Holy Diver myths laid to rest... (EDIT: take 2 on pg2)
Post by: il˙ti on October 10, 2007, 03:32:29 PM
A little too gainy for my taste but the core tone is really good. Great clip.