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Title: Chord based blues solos.
Post by: badgermark on October 04, 2007, 05:09:35 PM: After watching Patrick Bateman play some blues on youtube (alright it was sushi from the players forum (http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=nre-ddVAsaQ)) I've decided I'd love to learn the basics of the little cliché blues chordal run down, specifically at the 1 minute mark in sushi's video.

I've heard this alot, and I'd love to learn how it's done, so I can add it to my improvising around a blues scale.

Is it found in any specific songs I can find a tab for? I am pretty hopeless learning stuff 'blind' by ear. Give me the chords to a song and I'm fine working basic stuff out, but for this a nudge in the right direction would be snazzy.

Also any cool blues based chords that can be shifted around the fret-board would make me a happy guitarist. Help me learn new things, I've been in a rut for too long learning simple chord based songs that are fun to sing along to.
Title: Chord based blues solos.
Post by: Elliot on October 04, 2007, 05:34:33 PM: Are you talking about the Robert Johnson style triplet descent at 1.05?

Try alternating the e and G string in a triplet (e string, G string, e string) using a D or D7 shape chord from the 5th fret until the 3rd (D#) and then strum the D7 shape.
Title: Chord based blues solos.
Post by: badgermark on October 04, 2007, 05:36:30 PM: Yes? The little descent at 1:08 is the run I'm thinking of, I've heard it loads but not known where it's from or how it's done.
Title: Chord based blues solos.
Post by: 38thBeatle on October 04, 2007, 07:42:48 PM: Its known in the trade as a blues turnaround and the classic one is that which Elliot described-very effective and there are variations that you can do. If you were playing a 12 bar blues in E, say, you could use the "D7" shape but played on the 4th fret ( so you'd be playing in effect an E7 except that you are just using the G and E strings-though you can play the whole triad too for that matter) and then drop it by a fret at a time til you get to the second then play the first fret on the G ( G# note) in time with the open E string and then go to a B7 or even a B9. Far easier to show you than describe.
Title: Chord based blues solos.
Post by: 808 on October 04, 2007, 08:45:13 PM: I hope this helps ya bro! I learned some licks from these videos.

http://www.guitarworld.com/articles/Blues+Power
Title: Chord based blues solos.
Post by: badgermark on October 04, 2007, 09:25:02 PM: Thanks Mr 38th and 808, I shall get my blues on to these hints later when I am less tired and less full of the cold. You people are great.
Title: Chord based blues solos.
Post by: FELINEGUITARS on October 04, 2007, 10:34:42 PM: Wow - that was fun to watch!

Great tone!
Title: Chord based blues solos.
Post by: 808 on October 04, 2007, 11:45:18 PM: No problem!

Kieth Wyatt is great! I have one of his Blues instructional dvds.

I agree Feline!
Title: Chord based blues solos.
Post by: gwEm on October 05, 2007, 02:37:08 PM: nice :) i love chord based solos.
Title: Chord based blues solos.
Post by: 808 on October 05, 2007, 02:57:02 PM: I always look for dvds or books to help out with my guitar playing. I'm just tired of sitting and learning songs. I find it more concentrated this way. I just look for licks and tricks to help with my phrasing when I jam on Wednesdays.

Not to plug my own vid; but, this is a Texas Blues lesson I learned from a MI bookw\cd I picked up at Guitar Center. It has chord shape solos and turnarounds galour. This is a Stevie Ray\Johnny Winter type solo.

I used some of these licks this past Wednesday. Even though I didn't play it note for note at the jam, it helped out with my phrasing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4ywaGCsjhI
Title: Chord based blues solos.
Post by: lulusg on October 05, 2007, 04:25:51 PM: That was fun 808....cheers
Title: Chord based blues solos.
Post by: 38thBeatle on October 05, 2007, 06:44:32 PM: Nice stuff indeed my fellow numerically named friend.
Title: Chord based blues solos.
Post by: 808 on October 06, 2007, 02:51:18 PM: Thanks 38th!

I found this vid on youtube that's pretty cool.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5L7ZlyDskI&mode=related&search=
Title: Chord based blues solos.
Post by: 808 on October 06, 2007, 03:00:47 PM: This vid is good!

He plays different turnarounds in the Key of A.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdHkCnDpEOQ&mode=related&search=blues%20turnaround%20back%20porch
Title: Chord based blues solos.
Post by: badgermark on October 06, 2007, 09:27:04 PM: 808 that video you posted was awesome, you really inspired me to learn some proper blues licks.

Since I started soloing I've learned the scales and very little else. Trying to work out myself some cool little licks and riffs, but I've always wanted to learn some 'standard' licks.

I shall get practising for when I get BKPs for my strat and blow you mother$%&#ers away. Yes.
Title: Chord based blues solos.
Post by: 808 on October 06, 2007, 11:12:41 PM: Thanks bro!

That was a challenge to learn. The blues is fun for playing solos. Since I've been jamming blues with these older guys, I've learned alot about the guitar, that I didn't know, from learning about the blues.

Well, you're gonna make me practice more with a challenge like that! 8)
Title: Chord based blues solos.
Post by: lulusg on October 07, 2007, 12:23:45 AM: Man, you are really lucky to have those jam sessions every week. I have been looking for a blues based jam in or around gulfport on the weekend, but all I can find is plenty of bluegrass. Unless I moved to the Delta and stand at the Crossroads......Mmmmm :roll:
Title: Chord based blues solos.
Post by: 808 on October 07, 2007, 12:39:57 AM: I only get to go twice a month now that I started working shift work again....SUX!

But, it gives me time to learn and apply new ideas. I was about to start taking lessons again until I started jamming with them. I was in a rut for a while but going there sparked it off to learn something new. I wasn't even a blues player before I went there so imagine my first solo there. LOL

They also play Swamp Pop music. So, I'm learning blues and music that is part of my heritage. 8)
Title: Chord based blues solos.
Post by: Elliot on October 07, 2007, 12:50:22 AM: LULUSG - Does anyone actually play da blues anymore in Mississippi or did it die with R L Burnside? If the blues lives in its home still what's (who's) hot?
Title: Chord based blues solos.
Post by: lulusg on October 07, 2007, 01:56:24 AM: Hi Elliot, there is an organized movement to preserve the blues in ms, the delta being the strongest, different parties involved, schools, donors, concerts, but that is still recent. Just today a lady hand me a flyer with the name of Cedric Burnside, also David Kimbrough jr. Both respective sons,( I read that Junior Kimbrough had 36 children). As in the beginning Elliot, it was up to the British, and French to appreciate the music very few people care for here in the States. Thanks for that. :)