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Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: octavio_amzer on October 08, 2007, 06:05:55 PM

Title: Brass stop Tailpiece? Do they exist?
Post by: octavio_amzer on October 08, 2007, 06:05:55 PM
Like the les paul bridge :?:

I need to know and I can't find anything... I would love a complete Brass Hardware guitar with that kind of bridge.
Title: Brass stop Tailpiece? Do they exist?
Post by: WezV on October 08, 2007, 06:27:11 PM
what is it you are trying to acheive?

If you know somebody i wouldnt think it would be too much trouble to get one made
Title: Brass stop Tailpiece? Do they exist?
Post by: Philly Q on October 08, 2007, 06:32:45 PM
You mean unplated brass so it'll be a dull tarnished yellow colour?

I always thought Schaller/Gotoh style hardware was brass, but I guess most of it is probably zinc.
Title: Brass stop Tailpiece? Do they exist?
Post by: FELINEGUITARS on October 08, 2007, 06:58:41 PM
Welcome to the 1970s
Title: Brass stop Tailpiece? Do they exist?
Post by: Kilby on October 08, 2007, 07:57:05 PM
Quote from: FELINEGUITARS
Welcome to the 1970s


Oh no not brass nuts again

I put this brass nut on my guitar.

Now it sounds dead, and has lost all it's sustain
Title: Brass stop Tailpiece? Do they exist?
Post by: octavio_amzer on October 08, 2007, 09:23:10 PM
:? did I asked something... wrong?

1970s?

well... I just want it for the color of the hardware, I'm not looking for "tone". But if making it brass means the tone would suck then... explain please I'm confused by your answers guys...
Title: Brass stop Tailpiece? Do they exist?
Post by: Philly Q on October 08, 2007, 09:36:50 PM
There was a big theory in the 1970s that brass hardware - together with really heavy woods - was the secret to great tone and infinite sustain.  So you got all these "furniture" looking guitars and basses - like Alembics, for example - made of things like ash and walnut, with big chunky brass bridges and brass nuts.  That's why Yamaha SG2000s have under-bridge brass "sustain blocks", and old Ibanez Artists weigh a ton.

Then after a few years people started figuring out a lot of these guitars actually sounded a bit dead and weren't resonant at all.  So they started using different materials.

I suspect people of [cough] a certain age [/cough], like me and Feline and Kilby, remember those days very well.
Title: Brass stop Tailpiece? Do they exist?
Post by: octavio_amzer on October 09, 2007, 04:19:30 AM
Quote from: Philly Q
There was a big theory in the 1970s that brass hardware - together with really heavy woods - was the secret to great tone and infinite sustain.  So you got all these "furniture" looking guitars and basses - like Alembics, for example - made of things like ash and walnut, with big chunky brass bridges and brass nuts.  That's why Yamaha SG2000s have under-bridge brass "sustain blocks", and old Ibanez Artists weigh a ton.

Then after a few years people started figuring out a lot of these guitars actually sounded a bit dead and weren't resonant at all.  So they started using different materials.

I suspect people of [cough] a certain age [/cough], like me and Feline and Kilby, remember those days very well.



thankyou... you always help me alot
Title: Brass stop Tailpiece? Do they exist?
Post by: Kilby on October 09, 2007, 06:16:42 PM
Quote from: octavio_amzer
:? did I asked something... wrong?

1970s?

well... I just want it for the color of the hardware, I'm not looking for "tone". But if making it brass means the tone would suck then... explain please I'm confused by your answers guys...


Nothing wrong at all  :roll:  ;) (I was just experiencing a particularly bad flashback) though I did see a rather nice 81 Ibanez Artist 12 string with a tolerable amount of brass onboard

Brass indeed looks the business, can cause tone and sustain issues, I think there was a thread about brass finishes a while back (I will do a search when my boss goes home).

Rob...

PS I always thought that bronze would have been a better choice than brass (and it looks pretty good too)