Bare Knuckle Pickups Forum
Forum Ringside => Pickups => Topic started by: Vlad89 on October 15, 2007, 03:17:58 PM
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I'm planning to order a custom guitar from Ran sometime in the future. It will be a mahogany flying v with a maple neck (neck-through design) and an ebony fretboard. I mostly play Classic Rock, Classic Heavy Metal, Glam Metal and Thrash Metal. I want a good versatile bridge pickup that would be good for music like Guns N' Roses, Van Halen, ACDC, Motorhead, Black Sabbath, Randy Rhoads-era Ozzy, Metallica, Megadeth, Thin Lizzy, Judas Priest, Aerosmith, ZZ Top, Ted Nugent, Lynyrd Skynyrd, Scorpions, Dio, Quiet Riot, Ratt, WASP and Pantera with the right EQ settings.
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Holy Divers?
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Cold Sweat would be my choice- it will do most of the above
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Either of the above, although you might want to go Alnico rather than Ceramic for the magnet to get a bit of warmth for the saofter stuff (ZZ Top, AC/DC etc).
A VHII might be good? Or a Black Dog if you like a thicker tone?
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I don't know if the Black Dog would be thick/powerful enough in a neck-through V. Even in my mahogany V it sounds a bit thin - I wonder if it's just better-suited to Les Pauls?
If I had a guitar with those specs I'd be tempted to go for HDs, but I've never actually tried them so you should probably ignore me.
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an alnico 5 version of cold sweat could be interesting
but i'd keep the holy diver advice
just use the volume knob for the less gainy stuff
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On a side note, using "80's metal" as a description for a SOUND needs to stop. There were MANY different revolutions IN METAL going on in the 80's, lets get some more specificity here... I mean i know you elaborated in the post itself, but 80's Metal is not very sound OR genre defining, AT ALL. So what'll it be: Straight up Thrash a la '85-'87 (Bay Area? East Coast or NY style? German? Or dirtier thrashing Black/Death like Celtic Frost's "Morbid Tales"?)? Death/Grind a la Napalm Death's "Scum"? The emerging Power Metal scene? Black Metal a la Bathory's "The Return..."? Death Metal a la Morbid Angel's "Alters of Madness"? I mean, i could go on endlessly here, and i know i am being a needless prick about the matter, but this "definer" is getting quite irritating due to its ambiguity.
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On a side note, using "80's metal" as a description for a SOUND needs to stop. There were MANY different revolutions IN METAL going on in the 80's, lets get some more specificity here... I mean i know you elaborated in the post itself, but 80's Metal is not very sound OR genre defining, AT ALL. So what'll it be: Straight up Thrash a la '85-'87 (Bay Area? East Coast or NY style? German? Or dirtier thrashing Black/Death like Celtic Frost's "Morbid Tales"?)? Death/Grind a la Napalm Death's "Scum"? The emerging Power Metal scene? Black Metal a la Bathory's "The Return..."? Death Metal a la Morbid Angel's "Alters of Madness"? I mean, i could go on endlessly here, and i know i am being a needless prick about the matter, but this "definer" is getting quite irritating due to its ambiguity.
well... he actually plays 80's metal, and the major part of it's styles
your examples were extremely specific
i only agree that you can't use "80's" when you talk about a pickup's tone for itself
the most pickups used in today's metal are still the same used in the 80's: duncan jb/distortion/custom/invader, dimarzio super distortion, emg 81, bill lawrence l500xl
the exceptions are the gibson dirty fingers and dimarzio megadrive that were discontinued, the dimarzio x2n and the gibson 500t that replaced the dirty fingers on the flying vees and explorers
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Calm down, opprobrium_9! No-one has even mentioned "80s metal" in this thread, except in the title - and when you're naming a thread you only have a few words to grab people's attention.
Vlad89 has been totally specific about what he's looking for in his opening post. And it is '80s metal - of various styles - and classic rock, just as he said.
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i would take a cold sweat as feline suggests, or use potted A4 mules with some sort of pedal.
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On a side note, using "80's metal" as a description for a SOUND needs to stop. There were MANY different revolutions IN METAL going on in the 80's, lets get some more specificity here... I mean i know you elaborated in the post itself, but 80's Metal is not very sound OR genre defining, AT ALL. So what'll it be: Straight up Thrash a la '85-'87 (Bay Area? East Coast or NY style? German? Or dirtier thrashing Black/Death like Celtic Frost's "Morbid Tales"?)? Death/Grind a la Napalm Death's "Scum"? The emerging Power Metal scene? Black Metal a la Bathory's "The Return..."? Death Metal a la Morbid Angel's "Alters of Madness"? I mean, i could go on endlessly here, and i know i am being a needless prick about the matter, but this "definer" is getting quite irritating due to its ambiguity.
Chill,
He gave plenty of specific bands.
On the pickup, I cant really comment. I deal in flamethrowing death machines and the blues.
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Calm down, opprobrium_9! No-one has even mentioned "80s metal" in this thread, except in the title - and when you're naming a thread you only have a few words to grab people's attention.
Vlad89 has been totally specific about what he's looking for in his opening post. And it is '80s metal - of various styles - and classic rock, just as he said.
Yeah, yeah, like i said, i recognized the fact that he actually put more specifics in his post. However, i was referring generally to this forum. For, many a time, i have run across people trying to describe a sound by only using the "80's Metal" definer. It is irritating to see the least. When i saw this post, i thought to myself "here we go again..." though i was relieved to find that he actually was more specific. Yet, as i just stated, this was a general complaint about the usage of the term. I was not criticizing him unduly, or really much at all.
And Eric, i really don't know what you could "only agree with" aside from what you stated, because that is all i talked about in my post... "80's metal' as a definitive term.
I was not trying to explode, but seeing it over and over... and over again, really irks me. "80's Metal" means nothing to me, definitive genre types and bands do. No disrespect to the OP. This, as i have said before, was a much more general complaint.
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On a side note, using "80's metal" as a description for a SOUND needs to stop. There were MANY different revolutions IN METAL going on in the 80's, lets get some more specificity here... I mean i know you elaborated in the post itself, but 80's Metal is not very sound OR genre defining, AT ALL. So what'll it be: Straight up Thrash a la '85-'87 (Bay Area? East Coast or NY style? German? Or dirtier thrashing Black/Death like Celtic Frost's "Morbid Tales"?)? Death/Grind a la Napalm Death's "Scum"? The emerging Power Metal scene? Black Metal a la Bathory's "The Return..."? Death Metal a la Morbid Angel's "Alters of Madness"? I mean, i could go on endlessly here, and i know i am being a needless prick about the matter, but this "definer" is getting quite irritating due to its ambiguity.
and you missed out hair metal, the essence of 80's-ness :P
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Calm down, opprobrium_9! No-one has even mentioned "80s metal" in this thread, except in the title - and when you're naming a thread you only have a few words to grab people's attention.
Vlad89 has been totally specific about what he's looking for in his opening post. And it is '80s metal - of various styles - and classic rock, just as he said.
Yeah, yeah, like i said, i recognized the fact that he actually put more specifics in his post. However, i was referring generally to this forum. For, many a time, i have run across people trying to describe a sound by only using the "80's Metal" definer. It is irritating to see the least. When i saw this post, i thought to myself "here we go again..." though i was relieved to find that he actually was more specific. Yet, as i just stated, this was a general complaint about the usage of the term. I was not criticizing him unduly, or really much at all.
And Eric, i really don't know what you could "only agree with" aside from what you stated, because that is all i talked about in my post... "80's metal' as a definitive term. Of course my examples were specific, that was the whole point.
I was not trying to explode, but seeing it over and over... and over again, really irks me. "80's Metal" means nothing to me, definitive genre types and bands do. No disrespect to the OP. This, as i have said before, was a much more general complaint.
No offence at all intended, but I dont think many people are as anal about the genre and sound distictions youre bringing up as you.
I for one have no intention of either getting my knickers in a twist about it or being made to please someones requirement for genre-correctness in posts. If you dont think its specific enough, ask for more info and hold off on the outbursts, please. I think you'll find most people dont share your feelings: its not a big deal.
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I know we always go off topic in the BKP forum, but this use-and-abuse of the term "'80s metal" discussion is WAY off-topic.
Maybe it deserves its own thread, if anyone's bothered :?:
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I know we always
Maybe it deserves its own thread, if anyone's bothered :?:
Hell no.
I just thought though, given some of the heavier stuff in the OPs band list, maybe painkiller bridge, CS neck? The PK doesnt quite flay skin, but does great metal and crunchier sounds, has the mids for 80s metal (whatever that is :roll: ) and and cleans up ok, too. It does a great pantera!
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I dont think many people are as anal about the genre and sound distictions youre bringing up as you.
Have individuals not heard of hypothetical examples? I was being overly specific to make my point, over-stressing it if you will, and obviously the relevance of the point was outweighed by your interpretation of the examples i used and to what effect i used them. Please people, think outside of the box, just a little. I was making a point, not starting a holocaust. I don't get offended easily, so no worries there - and i really don't care if people share my purported "feelings" or not, though i do think specificity lends itself to greater understanding (maybe that is just my perception; mind you, i am not referencing this post directly). And that outburst was a one time thing, it is not like i do this in every post. So please try to hold off on your own disgust given your severe lack of interpretation.
End of story.
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I dont think many people are as anal about the genre and sound distictions youre bringing up as you.
Have individuals not heard of hypothetical examples? I was being overly specific to make my point, over-stressing it if you will, and obviously the relevance of the point was outweighed by your interpretation of the examples i used and to what effect i used them. Please people, think outside of the box, just a little. I was making a point, not starting a holocaust. I don't get offended easily, so no worries there - and i really don't care if people share my purported "feelings" or not, though i do think specificity lends itself to greater understanding (maybe that is just my perception; mind you, i am not referencing this post directly). And that outburst was a one time thing, it is not like i do this in every post. So please try to hold off on your own disgust given your severe lack of interpretation.
End of story.
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Being anal about what you call music =/= interpretation :roll:
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hey i like 80's metal!
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My Jackson RR1 use almost the same specs have a nailbomb in that Tim recommended me and it sounds fantastic for thrash-nirvana-AC/DC
You can't go wrong with the RAN guitar and a nailbomb!
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