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Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: AngusYoung01 on October 16, 2007, 08:22:22 PM

Title: Anyone have a PRS?
Post by: AngusYoung01 on October 16, 2007, 08:22:22 PM
I'm looking to eventually buy a Custom 24, anyone here have a good experience with PRS guitars?

My teacher has two singlecuts - Pre Lawsuit I believe- and he swears by them.... possibly what has made me have a sudden craving for one  :D
Title: Anyone have a PRS?
Post by: Stevepage on October 16, 2007, 09:15:43 PM
I have a Standard 24. Made in 1990 so it's pre-factory and has a brazilian rosewood fretboard. It's a very very nice guitar. One of the best i've ever played. Very very versatile and plays reeeally smooth. Like a Les Paul with that slight stratocaster 'snap'.

The pre-factory models are considered to be 'better' than those made from 1995 onwards due to differences in construction. I haven't played enough PRS' to agree with this but many think so.

deffinatly look into playing any you can find.
Title: Anyone have a PRS?
Post by: Antag on October 16, 2007, 09:25:34 PM
Yep, I have a Singlecut (pre lawsuit) & a Custom 24.  Both are gorgeous guitars that are very nice to play.

Covetted a custom 24 for several years - more than once I passed the chance to buy then regretted it bitterly afterwards.  Eventually I bought a really nice blue matteo model.

The Singlecut I got used just before the lawsuit.  It's also a really nice guitar to play.  I swapped out the zebra Dragon II pickups for a Nailbomb bridge/VHII neck.  It's a really versatile guitar that can cover most bases.

Some important specs/options to consider:
Neck profile: Wide/Thin or Standard on Cu24, Wide/Thin or Wide/Fat on Cu22, Wide/Fat on SC
Selector: Rotary 5-way selector, or 3-way toggle + push/pull coil split.
Bridge: Trem or Stop Tail
Cosmetics: Birds or Dots (they call them "Moons" but let's face it, they're common old dots :)), Colour, flame or quilt, 10 top (costs extra), Artist Pack (costs a LOT extra), covered/black/zebra pickups - all these things contibute to the look of the guitar.  If you're spending this kind of money you want it to be perfect & some combinations just don't look at all nice to my eye.  If you search for long enough, you CAN find the one that's perfect for YOU.


IMO the 3-way toggle + push/pull coil split is MUCH better than the 5-way rotary.  The rotary is fiddly to use, & positions 2/4 are almost indistinguishable from each other (& neither are particularly good).  The 3-way + push/pull gives you 6 combinations, all of which are distinct & useable.

I love the Wide/Thin neck, but the Wide/Fat on the SC is very comfortable - despite being very chunky.  The Standard profile was my least favourite & put me off buying at least one Cu24 that was in every other aspect perfect

The PRS trem is quite good too.  Not sure what they make their nuts out of but I've yet to have any tuning problems (even after heavy trem use) on either of my PRS'.  They're really solid, well made guitars.

Finally, don't buy unseen - even for guitars of this quality.  There are occasional "duds" out there (though a lot fewer & further between than, say, Gibson).  As with all guitar purchases, don't get over-excited when you see something that takes your fancy - inspect it very closely & give it a good play before diving in :)
Title: Anyone have a PRS?
Post by: AngusYoung01 on October 16, 2007, 09:59:46 PM
Sweet thanks  :D

And yeh, thats exactly what I'm looking for - and have found  :wink:

Or so I think I'm looking for, I need to try the WT and WF necks, but atm its looking like;

3 Way toggle plus coil tap
Blue Matteau
24 Fret
Trem
And Birds (Or course)


I've been so used to playing the neck of my SG (which is quite chunky) but now its starting to seem a bit thick for certain things, so a WT may be more appropriate. Is it thicker than Ibanez ones?
Title: PRS
Post by: viking on October 16, 2007, 10:02:34 PM
Hey!I've got a PRS Custom 22 w/trem.It feels so nice and easy to play with..The neck ,a Wide-Thin,is so well set up that you wonder why others (brands)don't do the same..I swapped the Dragons2 for a calibrated set of BNK Mules.I would like to have the 3 way toggle though..But it seems to me ,soundwise,that there is not enough Mahogany and/or too much Maple in these Customs...But it's their signature sound ,so,try it first (as always).Anyway,the workmanship is excellent and the woods are beautiful.It's a "dream guitar" for me. 8)
Title: Anyone have a PRS?
Post by: AngusYoung01 on October 16, 2007, 10:33:20 PM
Definitely!

Plus, atm I have an all mahogany guitar, so that tonal spectrum s covered  :D
Title: Anyone have a PRS?
Post by: March on October 17, 2007, 12:19:44 AM
I have a Custom 24 with a wide thin neck and a Standard 24 with a standard profile (both 20th Anni's). Both are excellent guitars. The wide thin is the faster neck but the standard profile seems to be a little more comfortable for my tastes.

As with any guitar, try as many as you can before you buy (if possible) and get the one that 'speak' to you.
Title: Anyone have a PRS?
Post by: Pauldem on October 17, 2007, 08:20:59 AM
I'd say the WT is thicker than my 2 S Series necks, which actually makes it more comfortable in my case.

Is it just my PRS, or do they prefer to be played standing up?
Title: Anyone have a PRS?
Post by: badgermark on October 17, 2007, 09:30:16 AM
What are the scale length on your average PRS? I'm all for getting a good guitar sometime next year, and the Les Paul in my sights is hindered by the 24.75" neck. I've found out I'm a Fender neck guy  :lol:
Title: Anyone have a PRS?
Post by: WezV on October 17, 2007, 10:02:40 AM
PRS's are 25" - its also my favorite scale length, just a good compromise between gibson and fender
Title: Anyone have a PRS?
Post by: Antag on October 17, 2007, 11:11:58 AM
Quote from: AngusYoung01
...so a WT may be more appropriate. Is it thicker than Ibanez ones?

The wide/thin probably measures thicker than an Ibanez wizard II, but the Wide/Thin is more "C" shaped (i.e. rounded) than the Ibanez necks which are more "U" shaped (i.e. flatter across the back).  So it doesn't feel substantially thicker because there's less "meat" on its "shoulders".

Hope that makes sense :)

Note also that PRS use a 10" fretboard radius (same as your Gibson probably), wheras Ibanez use a 16" (i.e. very flat) radius - you can do monster bends on it, but it won't be as comfortable as a 10" radius for chording.
Title: Anyone have a PRS?
Post by: WezV on October 17, 2007, 11:30:09 AM
gibsons fretboards are 12" radius - yet again PRS go for the middle ground between fender and gibson
Title: Anyone have a PRS?
Post by: Antag on October 17, 2007, 02:43:47 PM
Quote from: WezV
gibsons fretboards are 12" radius - yet again PRS go for the middle ground between fender and gibson

Interesting, I didn' t know that, always thought they were 10".

Anyway, my point stands that the PRS 10" radius isn't anything like as flat as the 16" that Ibanez put on their necks :)
Title: Anyone have a PRS?
Post by: TwilightOdyssey on October 17, 2007, 02:46:15 PM
PhilKing has a few PRS guitars. You might wanna PM him.
Title: Anyone have a PRS?
Post by: Jonesy76 on October 17, 2007, 03:43:15 PM
I've had a bit of a thing with PRS guitars (I've had a few!) but I somehow always go back to my Gibsons.  I guess I'm just happy with a Gibson neck and scale length, but then I'm not one for stupid skinny necks that my huge hands can wrap twice around!  I loved my Custom 24 Artist pack with the Brazillian fretboard and the red tiger top.....killer flame!  It got sold though when my Legra needed paying for!

If you can get it go for the Artist pack ones as they're a million times tastier and hold value better should you have a change of heart sometime in the future......lets be honest....most of us do! :roll:   I'm also not afraid to buy from the States with PRS as they're consistantly good guitars unlike Gibsons which seem to vary from instrument to instrument!
Title: Anyone have a PRS?
Post by: AngusYoung01 on October 17, 2007, 04:07:14 PM
Ahh awesome!

What I meant about neck is the actual back of the neck, as Antag said Ibanez feel flat. I'll need to try before I buy, even if it means a bit of a trip, but hopefully it'll be worth it  :D
Title: Anyone have a PRS?
Post by: DeanS on October 17, 2007, 09:12:26 PM
I took the plunge into PRS ownership earlier this year with a CE22 Mahogany. Haven't played my other guitars for some while......

Tone wise its like a focused SG , playability is second to none and feels stratty due to the bolt on neck. I'm not keen on the inbetween sounds but  in full humbucking mode you can get some serious clunk along with great clarity-which is not always the case with my Gibson LP.
Title: Anyone have a PRS?
Post by: AngusYoung01 on October 17, 2007, 10:26:17 PM
Sweet thanks  :D


They just look so well crafted
Title: Anyone have a PRS?
Post by: PhilKing on October 18, 2007, 12:18:23 PM
I have a standard 24 with Rebel Yells, an Artist II 22 with A4 Mules and and EG 4 with a Crawler and 2 BKP-91's.  The standard is from 1990 and has a great feel, with the RY's it screams and has an excellent rock sound.  The Artist has a bit larger neck and with the hardtail has a different voice acoustically.  With the Mules I can get any blues or rock tone that I want.  Both of these have the 5 way switching, and since moving to BK's, positions 2 & 4 are much better.  The EG4 is a stealth guitar because it sounds amazing and plays great.  This is a 1991 model and with the HSS setup using P-90's rather than single coills, it is really versatile.
Title: Anyone have a PRS?
Post by: AngusYoung01 on October 21, 2007, 11:59:48 AM
I may have to get BKP's if I buy one, but I'm not sure yet, I'll see where they work well ,etc.
Title: Anyone have a PRS?
Post by: AngusYoung01 on October 29, 2007, 08:57:12 PM
Well, I was on my teachers Singlecut today, and it seems the Wide Fat neck is perfect. I have an SG special, and the neck is fat, but I can't play Fenders, Or Ibanez, but the PRS WF neck was just, perfect, slightly thinner than the SG, but still enough chunk to be comfortable with. Now time to get a job, and buy this....
(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b313/AngusYoung01/scutblmat10-lg1.jpg)
Title: Anyone have a PRS?
Post by: Dakine on November 09, 2007, 06:03:29 AM
GOOD choice!

I went to Austin Texas yesterday to demo an amp. Thats it, just demo an amp! I took an EMG equipt. guitar so asked to try a passive guitar there. They gave me a PRS Singlecut and it never left my hands!!!!!!!!! NEVER have I been so taken by a guitar before! It just felt as if I had been playing it for years.

Needless to say, wether 'needing' it or not (let alone affording it) it came home with me. It plays that well it 'inspires' me. No longer do I see PRS as 'wallhangers' they are in fact amazing guitars and IMO put companies like Gibbo to shame with their quality control, materials,wood choice,tone etc!

(http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j279/DakineTX/DSC01414.jpg)

It's hard to photo but is a  'satin' with THE sweetest NON sticky neck ever :)
Title: Anyone have a PRS?
Post by: noodleplugerine on November 09, 2007, 08:56:51 AM
Good job Dakine!

PRS Singlecut Satins are just AMAZING guitars.

Play brilliantly.
Title: Anyone have a PRS?
Post by: AngusYoung01 on November 09, 2007, 07:57:18 PM
Nice guitar!!

Unfortunately, what with gigging and stuff, a satin guitars finish would start to get ugly if I had one, so gloss is what I'm after!  :D
Title: Anyone have a PRS?
Post by: Crazy_Joe on November 09, 2007, 09:46:18 PM
Quote from: Dakine
GOOD choice!

I went to Austin Texas yesterday to demo an amp. Thats it, just demo an amp! I took an EMG equipt. guitar so asked to try a passive guitar there. They gave me a PRS Singlecut and it never left my hands!!!!!!!!! NEVER have I been so taken by a guitar before! It just felt as if I had been playing it for years.

Needless to say, wether 'needing' it or not (let alone affording it) it came home with me. It plays that well it 'inspires' me. No longer do I see PRS as 'wallhangers' they are in fact amazing guitars and IMO put companies like Gibbo to shame with their quality control, materials,wood choice,tone etc!

(http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j279/DakineTX/DSC01414.jpg)

It's hard to photo but is a  'satin' with THE sweetest NON sticky neck ever :)


Nice!

Matte finish's are amazing.
Title: Anyone have a PRS?
Post by: Dakine on November 09, 2007, 10:01:40 PM
Quote from: AngusYoung01
Nice guitar!!

Unfortunately, what with gigging and stuff, a satin guitars finish would start to get ugly if I had one, so gloss is what I'm after!  :D


Well, will see how she holds up.
She has a nitro finish and the top is dyed (prior to nitro) so should be pretty good. I MUCH prefered the satin neck, faster/smoother.
Title: Anyone have a PRS?
Post by: blue on November 10, 2007, 06:21:17 AM
i disagree about the satin finish getting ugly, yes it'll "age" quicker, but not in a bad way.  in no time at all it'll look like the guitar you've spent your life with!
Title: Anyone have a PRS?
Post by: Dakine on November 10, 2007, 03:46:25 PM
Quote from: blue
i disagree about the satin finish getting ugly, yes it'll "age" quicker, but not in a bad way.  in no time at all it'll look like the guitar you've spent your life with!


already feels that way and twas why I brought it home :)
Title: Anyone have a PRS?
Post by: dave_mc on November 10, 2007, 04:12:21 PM
Quote from: Dakine
GOOD choice!

I went to Austin Texas yesterday to demo an amp. Thats it, just demo an amp! I took an EMG equipt. guitar so asked to try a passive guitar there. They gave me a PRS Singlecut and it never left my hands!!!!!!!!! NEVER have I been so taken by a guitar before! It just felt as if I had been playing it for years.

Needless to say, wether 'needing' it or not (let alone affording it) it came home with me. It plays that well it 'inspires' me. No longer do I see PRS as 'wallhangers' they are in fact amazing guitars and IMO put companies like Gibbo to shame with their quality control, materials,wood choice,tone etc!

(http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j279/DakineTX/DSC01414.jpg)

It's hard to photo but is a  'satin' with THE sweetest NON sticky neck ever :)


awesome guitar, nick. i like the one in blue best, but that's very nice too.

Now if they'd just change their pricing to be more in line with US prices...

 :lol:
Title: Anyone have a PRS?
Post by: Dakine on November 10, 2007, 04:49:13 PM
Quote from: dave_mc
Quote from: Dakine
GOOD choice!

I went to Austin Texas yesterday to demo an amp. Thats it, just demo an amp! I took an EMG equipt. guitar so asked to try a passive guitar there. They gave me a PRS Singlecut and it never left my hands!!!!!!!!! NEVER have I been so taken by a guitar before! It just felt as if I had been playing it for years.

Needless to say, wether 'needing' it or not (let alone affording it) it came home with me. It plays that well it 'inspires' me. No longer do I see PRS as 'wallhangers' they are in fact amazing guitars and IMO put companies like Gibbo to shame with their quality control, materials,wood choice,tone etc!

(http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j279/DakineTX/DSC01414.jpg)

It's hard to photo but is a  'satin' with THE sweetest NON sticky neck ever :)


awesome guitar, nick. i like the one in blue best, but that's very nice too.

Now if they'd just change their pricing to be more in line with US prices...

 :lol:


Totally agree Dave.

Am lusting after this one myself (must resist, must resit lol);

http://www.martinmusicguitar.com/products/electricguitars/products.php?pcid=10080&cid=22364&pid=23124
Title: Anyone have a PRS?
Post by: noodleplugerine on November 10, 2007, 06:49:08 PM
Yep - The Blue Matteo is just gorgeous.
Title: Anyone have a PRS?
Post by: Machek on November 11, 2007, 12:29:05 PM
So now, what bkp are you gonna drop in in there?? :wink:
Title: Anyone have a PRS?
Post by: FiXXXeR on November 11, 2007, 05:30:16 PM
i love mine i can cover every type of music possible without touching the amp setting, such a players guitar oh and they look the part  :D

Here is mine, im in love with it

(http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m260/fixxxer1988/DSCF5198.jpg) :D
Title: Anyone have a PRS?
Post by: AngusYoung01 on November 11, 2007, 06:09:21 PM
Quote from: Machek
So now, what bkp are you gonna drop in in there?? :wink:


Well, if I get it, I'm not sure. I'm in love with the MM's in my SG, but I dunno for a PRS. I'll see what it needs if it comes my way  :P


If anyones selling, please give us a shout  :lol:  :D
Title: Anyone have a PRS?
Post by: dave_mc on November 11, 2007, 08:49:36 PM
Quote from: Dakine

Totally agree Dave.

Am lusting after this one myself (must resist, must resit lol);

http://www.martinmusicguitar.com/products/electricguitars/products.php?pcid=10080&cid=22364&pid=23124


yeah, that's the one, I think. A little darker than I remember, but that could just be the photo (or maybe they have a lighter blue as well?)...

:drink:
Title: Anyone have a PRS?
Post by: Dakine on November 11, 2007, 08:57:56 PM
Quote from: dave_mc
Quote from: Dakine

Totally agree Dave.

Am lusting after this one myself (must resist, must resit lol);

http://www.martinmusicguitar.com/products/electricguitars/products.php?pcid=10080&cid=22364&pid=23124


yeah, that's the one, I think. A little darker than I remember, but that could just be the photo (or maybe they have a lighter blue as well?)...

:drink:


They do the 'blue jean' finish but only in Modern Eagle = $4,000+ ouch

The Blue Mateo is light. This addiction is worse than crack me thinks  :evil:
Title: Anyone have a PRS?
Post by: dave_mc on November 12, 2007, 04:08:24 PM
ah, yeah, i think i know the blue jean one, that's not the one I mean... must just have been taken in not much light.

I know what you mean about the addiction... :lol:
Title: Anyone have a PRS?
Post by: March on November 12, 2007, 04:53:57 PM
I'm addicted... 7 and counting!

I'm after a DGT next.

I think I need help...  :lol:
Title: Anyone have a PRS?
Post by: Simon D on November 12, 2007, 05:03:10 PM
Quote from: Dakine
GOOD choice!

I went to Austin Texas yesterday to demo an amp. Thats it, just demo an amp! I took an EMG equipt. guitar so asked to try a passive guitar there. They gave me a PRS Singlecut and it never left my hands!!!!!!!!! NEVER have I been so taken by a guitar before! It just felt as if I had been playing it for years.

Needless to say, wether 'needing' it or not (let alone affording it) it came home with me. It plays that well it 'inspires' me. No longer do I see PRS as 'wallhangers' they are in fact amazing guitars and IMO put companies like Gibbo to shame with their quality control, materials,wood choice,tone etc!

It's hard to photo but is a  'satin' with THE sweetest NON sticky neck ever :)


Dude, that guitar is stunning. I am now officially jealous! Threads like this are dangerous, they enhance GAS!!  :wink:
Title: Anyone have a PRS?
Post by: indysmith on November 12, 2007, 05:15:26 PM
i played a faded singlecut today. It was AWESOME (apart from the painfully light gauge strings).
It was really resonant - you could feel it when you struck a chord vibrating like an overdose on ecstacy - incredible feeling guitar. The neck was particularly stunning, gorgeous non-friction earthy finish, and a very comfortable size. damn i hate being a student

EDIT - i still want binding though
Title: Anyone have a PRS?
Post by: gwEm on November 12, 2007, 05:29:12 PM
Quote from: indysmith
damn i hate being a student


in 4 years time you'll be saying: damn i wish i was a student again ;)
Title: Anyone have a PRS?
Post by: Simon D on November 12, 2007, 05:42:06 PM
Quote from: gwEm
Quote from: indysmith
damn i hate being a student


in 4 years time you'll be saying: damn i wish i was a student again ;)


Damn right. Make the most of it dude, plenty of time for gear-buying in the future, but most only get one shot at the student life!  :drink:
Title: Anyone have a PRS?
Post by: Dakine on November 13, 2007, 05:31:46 AM
Quote from: indysmith
i played a faded singlecut today. It was AWESOME (apart from the painfully light gauge strings).
It was really resonant - you could feel it when you struck a chord vibrating like an overdose on ecstacy - incredible feeling guitar. The neck was particularly stunning, gorgeous non-friction earthy finish, and a very comfortable size. damn i hate being a student

EDIT - i still want binding though


Exactly why it HAD to come home with me, was NO real choice. First time that has EVER happened!

It plays sooooooooo much better IMO set up with 10's (they come std. with 9's yuck)
Title: Anyone have a PRS?
Post by: Core on November 13, 2007, 09:33:33 AM
I own this 1995 PRS Custom 22 - and just put a BKP Crawler in the bridge position

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v215/ericclapton/DSCN1312.jpg)


It played and sounded dam' good before... but now?

To coin a well cliche-ed phrase... it's "AwwwwESOME"  :) I can recommend a Crawler - if you are thinking of swapping out the PRS items... gives that added "Grunt" .

It's just about to be converted to a three way toggle switch (from the 5 way rotary) which might just equal Perfection - to me, at least....
Title: Anyone have a PRS?
Post by: AngusYoung01 on November 16, 2007, 11:02:24 PM
Quote from: Core
I own this 1995 PRS Custom 22 - and just put a BKP Crawler in the bridge position

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v215/ericclapton/DSCN1312.jpg)


It played and sounded dam' good before... but now?

To coin a well cliche-ed phrase... it's "AwwwwESOME"  :) I can recommend a Crawler - if you are thinking of swapping out the PRS items... gives that added "Grunt" .

It's just about to be converted to a three way toggle switch (from the 5 way rotary) which might just equal Perfection - to me, at least....


Send to me plx  :D