Bare Knuckle Pickups Forum
Forum Ringside => Pickups => Topic started by: nikita on October 19, 2007, 05:15:20 PM
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hey everyone,
i want the best sound out of my gear and so im asking you if you would change the pickups of my guitar or not
if so which pickup would you choose?
at ultimateguitare.com the suggested my EMG's or BKP's
guitar: Schecter C1-classic
amp: Engl fireball
effects: g-major (and sonic maximizer in the near future)
ah yes i mostly play stuff from Metallica (also the clean parts),
AC/DC, Black Sabbath usw. (90% metal)
but also some Hendrix.....
hope you can help me :wink:
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hmm
nailbomb?
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please are there any other suggestions?
is the nailbomb any good?
does it fit my guitar?
bride or neck pickup?
help anyone?
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I'm baffled haha, that's quite a wide range of styles and i'm finding it hard to pick something, i think i'll go with the Nailbomb as it's high gain for your Metalica etc. but it's so versatile at the same time which should cover your Hendrix and stuff.
But i'll be interested to see what other's recommend.
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hmm, two holy diver owners not recommending the holy divers... Surely' it's a job for the mighty HD?!
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so would you suggest the holy diver?
ive heard that BKP's are really nice pickups, but i really do want to match them properly to the woods. Many BKP fans have been known to say (on their forum, no less), that X pickup doesn't sound very good in a particular guitar, etc.
so i want the right pickup for my schecter!!!
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both will sound great in your guitar
nailbomb is a bit more aggressive
holy diver is thicker
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im sorry for that noobish question, but do i put them in the bridge or the neck position?
which one makes it easer to play pinch harmonics?
and do they soud both ok if played clean?
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I think he's describing the two, so you could take your pick of which one you would like better
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TO's other guitarist uses a Cold Sweat bridge and Abraxas neck in his Schecter C-1 Classic. Given the different metal styles that they play, he gets a great sound out of this setup. It is also versatile enough to play many other styles.
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who is TO?
anyway i asked the guys from the bare knuckles pickups and they told me the following:
"for a really versatile set of humbuckers for your C1 I would recommend
the Nailbomb humbucker set-great classic rock/metal tones with good coil
splits and organic clean tone too."
so they are talking about the Nailbomb humbucker - Calibrated Covered Set -
am i right?
can you tell me what the right options are for my Schecter C1 classic?
spacing: ?
cover : ?
conductor: ?
leg: ?
hope you can help me
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TO = Ben / the band Twighlight Odysey - He is on the forum
spacing - measure bridge poles low E to high e
Cover - whichever colour you like :P
if you want a coil split - 4 conducter
leg length - measure it I think 1/2 an inch is standard and the shorter is for shallow bodys
its in common ordering FAQs at several places around the site
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thanks a lot
btw where can i talk to ben?
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He will pitch in I am sure.
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Hi nikita,
You can hear my band here.
www.myspace.com/twilightodyssey
ON THE SONGS SQUADRON, LONG DAY, AND OUTLANDERS -- All rhythm guitars are the Cold Sweat bridge pickup. The left channel is the Schechter. (The right side is a parts build strat that PhilKing and I threw together)
All neck leads are the Abraxas in the Schechter. Bridge leads are the Miracle Man.
I think that the Cold Sweat scores over the Nailbomb in terms of absolute precision and it has a bit more grind and agression. It does not have the same midrange width as the Nailbomb, however. Harmonically, they are comparable, but I personally prefer the Cold Sweat.
The Abraxas neck pickup sounds HUGE in the Schechter.
Anyway, check out the songs, and happy hunting!
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i ask Tim and he told me the following:
"Hi
I've had a quick look around the neck to try and track down some specs
for the C1 Classic and as far as I can tell you want 50mm spacing, long
leg, 4 con.............finish....it's hard to tell if the covers are
nickel or chrome in the pics so you'll have to check that......nickel
ages, chrome always stays shiney.
I also noticed that the C1 comes with Seymour Duncan JB/Jazz
pickups.....the NBs are quite close to these in output but have a better
clean tone and more organic mids. If you want to go hotter to handle the
Sabbath/Metallic tones better I would recommend Miracle Man over
Nailbomb.............if your preference is for brighter tones( ACDC,
Hendrix)then the Rebel Yell would be a better choice.
kind regards
Tim"
what do you think?
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i just looked around and people say that the miracle man is good for trash metal and high gain...so im asking you if it will be any good for me, cause i dont get any harder than the old Metallica stuff and black sabbath (maybe some slayer and Pantera!!!
if the MM can handle black sabbath and metallica i was thinking of getting a Miracle Man in the bridge and a cold sweat (or Abreaxas) in the neck
ah yes and dont forget that i also want to have decent cleans!!!
ps.: i use the neck pickup for clean and the bridge for distorted sound!!!
ah...i use a engl fireball....do you think it gets to destorted in combination with a MM?
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Did you listen to the sound of TwilightOdyssey in the link that he added in this post? I still think that the Cold Sweat/Abraxas or even Cold Sweat calibrated set will get what you want. I changed the pickups and have played the guitar so I know the sounds that it can get.
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Far be it for me to contradict what Tim thinks will work best, but all I can say is: I think I've amply demonstrated what the CS/Abraxas can do, as well as the MM. The choice is yours to make, not ours. It's your guitar, your amp, your money.
Do I think a Nailbomb will sound better than the Cold Sweat? Personally, no. But my playing style is very different from Tim's; he's a very aggressive player that can coax the most face melting tones out of any guitar.
And there ya have it.
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The Abraxas neck pickup sounds HUGE in the Schechter.
All hail the Abraxas/Crawler neck pup!
(I just wanted to say that ... again. 8))
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hmmm so i'll have to decide:
1.) neck: cold sweat
bridge: Miracle Man
2.) neck: Abraxas
bridge: cold sweat
3.) cold sweat calibrated set
man a damn hard decision....
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All hail the Abraxas/Crawler neck pup!
(I just wanted to say that ... again. 8))
Hear hear!
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ok if the cold sweat in the bridge can do the early metallica stuff and the
Abraxas pickup in the neck is able to play the clean parts....i'll take these two!!! (though im the lead guitarist)
im using the bridge for the heavy, destortion stuff and the neck for the clean....that would be ok with these pickups?
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by the way - Nikita, like the Besson film?
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ok if the cold sweat in the bridge can do the early metallica stuff and the
Abraxas pickup in the neck is able to play the clean parts....i'll take these two!!! (though im the lead guitarist)
And both of those would be excellent for leads. If the Cold Sweat is anything like John Sykes' sound. And people say it is. So yeah.
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ben says that the rhythm guitars in his band are the Cold Sweat bridge pickup....and do they have the Abraxas in the neck?...sorry i couldnt figure it out cause i dont understand english that good.... :roll:
so can i use the bridge pickup for destortion and the neck for clean?
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ben says that the rhythm guitars in his band are the Cold Sweat bridge pickup....and do they have the Abraxas in the neck?...sorry i couldnt figure it out cause i dont understand english that good.... :roll:
so can i use the bridge pickup for destortion and the neck for clean?
Yes, all the rhythm's in TO's clip are Cold Sweats (2 guitarists, but both have CS bridge pickups). The cleaner mellower lead tones are the Abraxas neck, the more agressive leads are a Miracle Man bridge in another guitar. The best example of the Abraxas lead tone is on the intro to Outlanders, where you can hear the notes really ring out.
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ah...thanks...yea the cleans sound great!!!
btw this band sounds awsome...they play great riffs and remind me somehow of Iron Maiden!
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@ben
so ive chosen the abraxas in the neck and the cold sweat in the bridge!
can you tell me what the right options are for my Schecter C1 classic?
spacing: ?
cover : ?
conductor: ?
leg: ?
mfg
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I thought tim answered your questions on the spec of the pickups.
50mm, long leg, four conductor, finish - up to you dude...
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yea i wasnt sure if i should take nickel or chrome...
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Doesn't the C1-Classic have gold hardware? When I changed Jimmy's (TO's other guitarist), it was gold hardware, cherry red guitar, neck through.
On this I think black open coils look the best.
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this is a picture of the c1
http://en.woodbrass.com/images/woodbrass/C1TBLU-1.JPG
no gold pickups...
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this is a picture of the c1
http://en.woodbrass.com/images/woodbrass/C1TBLU-1.JPG
no gold pickups...
you can pick whatever you want. i think chrome would look good, but you can also leave it black... whatever you think will look best.
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This is Jimmy's:
http://www.schecterguitars.com/hr.asp?id=3
I guess the different finishes come with different hardware.
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are you able to do some sweet pinch harmonics on the cold sweat bridge?
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with about 10 minutes of practise i could do pinch harmonics reliably on my neck stormy monday and mild overdrive :) pinches just seem to be something all BKPs do well... (in my experience)
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anyone can second that on the cold sweat?
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I can pinch on an acoustic, without a pick: its just a question of technique. I see no reason it would be hard on a moderately powerfull and quite trebly bridge pickup.
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my first amp was a Vox ad 50vt and it was kinda difficult to get nice pinchis;
now with the fireball it is soooooo easy.....so maybe its the same with the pickups....
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ok didnt want to start a new thread so i post my question in here:
what do you think is the best pickup for the old metallica stuff
(especially the master of puppets album)?
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ok didnt want to start a new thread so i post my question in here:
what do you think is the best pickup for the old metallica stuff
(especially the master of puppets album)?
miracle man will do it. Voiced for that kind of playing. I say this with alot of experience.
Miracle Man is made for early Metallica.
just get a cold sweat calibrated set or a cold sweat with a miracle man on the bridge.
I recommend the cold sweat with the miracle man because you like Slayer and Pantera.
with a cold sweat and a miracle man at the bridge you will achieve heavy and beautiful sounds. If you want more versatility without balls to the wall power go for cold sweat calibrated set.
don't abuse the help you are offered here man.. :?
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no never!!!!
im thankful for every useful post!
its just that i come from austria and have to order here in uk....so i have to be 100% sure which pickup to take...