New Les Paul Standard 2008

[WezV]

nothing wrong with a bit of chambering.   the problem is that les pauls have always been heavy guitars but when stocks of mahogany are generally heavier anyway suddenly you have an issue.... the only problem is when they leave the sawdust (aka toneflakes) in the holes - but that was more an issue with the BFG's which where big chambers and rough on purpose

drilling a few weight relief holes isnt really a bad idea even if it looks a bit rough (no-one will see anyway!!).  it doesnt alter the tone as much as the full chambers of a semi will

anyway, there have always been good and bad les pauls, who knows what the street and online price for these new ones will be  but the best examples have always fetched higher prices anyway and been much closer to the RRP.   my cousin has a standard to sell thats about 3 years old and may be the closest to the perfect LP i have ever played without it actually being old or a black custom... he searched for a while to find it and paid well over the odds... think it might hurt when he lets it go but i think he is trying to be practical.... i built him a guitar for his 30th the same year and he plays that more. it was quite funny because his wife and band clubbed together to pay for the materials to make him a surprise guitar and  she had to keep quiet as he brought himself the standard as his 30th b'day treat

[indysmith]

Haha he had an awesome birthday...
Just so you know, Wez, it's my birthday on Friday and I've always fancied one of your Vendettas. :lol:

[Ratrod]

It's not the chambering of LP's that bugs me. It's the way how and why the've done it.

You can't really call it chambering, they just cut circular holes out. Has nothing to do with tone. They never told anyone about it either in the first years they did it. It came out when someone put it under an X-ray machine.

They did it to lose weight, making people think they used lightweight (rare and expensive) mahogany.

The LP Ultra was chambered for sound. That's a different story.

[WezV]

you are right, they should have been more honest...  but i dont think chambering for weight reduction is a problem and the drilling random hole with a large diameter drill bit is an easy and practical solution... if not the most gracefull way.  i like the warmoth way best, but thats so extensive it will have a more noticable affect on the sound..

http://www.warmoth.com/guitar/bodies/strat.cfm?fuseaction=strat_hollow

[dave_mc]

it was quite funny because his wife and band clubbed together to pay for the materials to make him a surprise guitar and  she had to keep quiet as he brought himself the standard as his 30th b'day treat

ah, the problem with surprise gifts. :lol:

[Kilby]

it was quite funny because his wife and band clubbed together to pay for the materials to make him a surprise guitar and  she had to keep quiet as he brought himself the standard as his 30th b'day treat

ah, the problem with surprise gifts. :lol:

Wish I had that problem <sulk>

[dave_mc]

:lol:

[JustBecos]

The price doesn't look like it is going to quite as bad as feared

Thomann are selling for £1544 GAK just a bit more obviously they don't have any yet.

Also found some interesting pics on this sit about the neck joint and neck profile

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Gibson-2008-Les-Paul-Standard-Electric-Guitar-?sku=519336&src=3SOSWXXA

[Philly Q]

Also found some interesting pics on this sit about the neck joint and neck profile

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Gibson-2008-Les-Paul-Standard-Electric-Guitar-?sku=519336&src=3SOSWXXA

That is interesting!  The neck profile looks similar to the Ernie Ball/Music Man Axis, which was comfortable to play - but I've always liked the Gibson '50s profile anyway, so it's not a selling point for me.

Interesting neck joint too.  It'll certainly stop the neck pulling out if you suspend the guitar from the ceiling then swing on it.  I've always found that a terrible problem with previous Les Pauls - a couple of minutes swinging and Bang!, there goes the neck.

[Tellboy]

I've always found that a terrible problem with previous Les Pauls - a couple of minutes swinging and Bang!, there goes the neck.

So Philly.. I see you've started early training for the 2012 London Olympics

[JamesHealey]

i'll tell u now that Gibson prices are going back up, Especially in the UK, Gibson have taken the dealership status to "one per town" so you will only have one local gibson dealer.

Secondly you will find that Rosetti are no longer distributing Gibsons as they were selling them off too cheap to shops so they could have price wars with eachother, Gibson viewed this as De-valueing the brand so they've stopped this and put into place their own distribution.

Lots of changes ahead from Gibson and the way they are made and distributed, better quality but higher prices.

[Philly Q]

I've always found that a terrible problem with previous Les Pauls - a couple of minutes swinging and Bang!, there goes the neck.

So Philly.. I see you've started early training for the 2012 London Olympics

Yeah, but it does depend on Les Paul Neck Swinging getting it's fully-deserved recognition as an Olympic sport.  I was hoping it might be an exhibition event in Beijing.  :?

In the meantime I can't afford not to keep training, just in case....