Gibson Historic '57 demo on Bogner site: Mules or VHIIs?

[matlock]

Ok... who doesn't love Greg Vs tone on Bogner's web site?  He's going thru an XTC classic (love that Plexi!)

I was wondering, if I'm going to fit my Edwards Les Paul with what Greg has in his '57 (I'm assuming they're stock pickups), would I go for Mules or VHIIs?  Is there something in-between?

I understand the amp and his fingers have a lot to do with his tone.  I don't have $4k laying around. That would buy the amp...but the fingers?  :lol:

Links:
http://www.bogneramplification.com/customshop/XtcGV1.mp3
http://www.bogneramplification.com/customshop/XtcCLCleanGV2.mp3
http://www.bogneramplification.com/customshop/XtcCLPlexiGV1.mp3

Thanks, gearheads!

[il˙ti]

Sounds Muley to me! But I guess there is something in-between such as the AV mule.

[matlock]

Mule AVs?  Is there such a place between the Mule AIV and VHII?  What's it like?  Are there unicorns?   :P

[il˙ti]

Well you specifically asked if there was something in-between. Ask gwem or PhilKing, as they have the A5 Mules.

[matlock]

Thanks ilyti.  I don't know why I didn't find this before.
http://www.bareknucklepickups.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10437

I'm torn.  Mules, VHIIs, or Black Dogs?  Dang...proceeding to pull out hair.  I want to go blues rock, but also want to be able to bring out some good sustain (a la Neal Schon) when needed.  I like more mids in my sound, but BDs might be a bit too much.  They also may have too much bite to the highs for me.   :?

[HTH AMPS]

Thanks ilyti.  I don't know why I didn't find this before.
http://www.bareknucklepickups.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10437

I'm torn.  Mules, VHIIs, or Black Dogs?  Dang...proceeding to pull out hair.  I want to go blues rock, but also want to be able to bring out some good sustain (a la Neal Schon) when needed.  I like more mids in my sound, but BDs might be a bit too much.  They also may have too much bite to the highs for me.   :?

I'd say Mules.  VHIIs are brighter, Black Dogs have WAY more bass and low mids.  If you want a hotter pickup in the Mule vein, the Crawler is a great pickup with more pokey mids (I liked it alot and don't know wtf I sold mine)

[matlock]

Thanks for the input, all.  I've got a msg into Tim right now to try and set me up w/ something based on my tastes.

[JamesHealey]

that sound is NOT VHII's.. it's much more toward Mules or Black Dogs

[mikey5]

Thanks for the input, all.  I've got a msg into Tim right now to try and set me up w/ something based on my tastes.

WHat did tim say??

[Twinfan]

I'd say that's Muley too.

[mikey5]

The solo part on the plexi distorted clip is perfect sounding I love that tone how would you guys describe it as Fat or bright??. Its all nice but the bass is a touch muddy. 

[HTH AMPS]

The solo part on the plexi distorted clip is perfect sounding I love that tone how would you guys describe it as Fat or bright??. Its all nice but the bass is a touch muddy. 

I'd call it bright, theres a fair amount of high-end attack in that tone (more than I'd use myself).

fwiw, that 'plexi' setting has way more gain than any real plexi I've ever owned - they should have called it the EVH channel.

[mikey5]

The solo part on the plexi distorted clip is perfect sounding I love that tone how would you guys describe it as Fat or bright??. Its all nice but the bass is a touch muddy. 

I'd call it bright, theres a fair amount of high-end attack in that tone (more than I'd use myself).

I like it. Are the cold Sweats that bright or is that more crawler territory. Its nice to have sound to compare to??

[il˙ti]

It's neither. As discussed this sound would be better nailed with a set of Mules. The Cold Sweat is definitely brighter than the Crawler, but the Crawler is more "PAF-like" so I'd still take crawlers over cold sweats for this tone. But again, Mules would nail it to an A.