Anybody here ever played through a EVM12L ?

[Fourth Feline]

btw, I am going to have a 2x12 Thiele made soon...it will be loaded with the deltas-I can buy them new cheaper/or same price as a used ev-good luck!!

Sounds like a good endorsement to me .  :)

And yes, I also could get 2 new Delta 12 Pros ( heavy cast aluminium frame type ) for the cost of just one EVM12L. 

I seem to read a lot about the Deltas being a bit warmer than the EVM12Ls too, although I realise that players opinions are somewhat subjective.

[Will]

ahhh... 5 of my Sidewinders for the price of a single EVM

sorry, couldn't resist :oops:

[Woogie]

EVM12L in 6x12 cab = win

[Twinfan]

Are the Deltas the ones Joe Bonamassa uses?  That guy gets a great tone.  Nearly as nice as mine  ;)

I believe Joe is an EVM12L Classic user.  He did mention to me that he was chasing your tone however ... 

Good to see he's still searching  ;)

:lol:

[JamesHealey]

im using the Celestion HOT100's and I must admit they're freaking good for the cash and i've a/b'd them in the shop I work in with G12T75's G12M25 G12H30 and what ever sound city put in there cabs.

and the Hot100's owned them all hands down absolutely killed all the others in terms of tone.

[Twinfan]

Myself and Martin have been saying the same thing for a while  ;)

Nice to meet you (albeit brielfy) yesterday James!

[Fourth Feline]

im using the Celestion HOT100's and I must admit they're freaking good for the cash and i've a/b'd them in the shop I work in with G12T75's G12M25 G12H30 and what ever sound city put in there cabs.

and the Hot100's owned them all hands down absolutely killed all the others in terms of tone.

Yes, I was suitably impressed by T.Fs cab with 'Hot 100s' - but am getting tempted / perhaps decieved that more expensive = better.

The other factor was ( as previously mentioned ) - that I had put a Truvox 0818 ( 8" 150 Watt P.A. / Acoustic guitar speaker ) in a Fender G-Dec Junior practice amp - and the result was very, very  nice.

As with guitars and amps , there is always the temptation to own a 'classic' piece of gear - just for the sheer buzz.

I must confess that I haven't even tried the cab's existing Celestion Seventy80s yet. Especially remiss of me - as the volumes I prefer to play at, wouldn't push them anywhere near breakup. I should have learned my lesson re: tone against price ; - as my M.Q equiped cheepo 'Tanglewood' 335 copy has eclipsed all my high end guitars.

I think it's the dreaded G.A.S that drives the speaker quest more than anything .   :)

[Roobubba]

*cough* G12K-100 *cough*


:)

Roo

[Fourth Feline]

*cough* G12K-100 *cough*


:)

Roo

Thanks for the hint Roo .  :)

Looks very interesting ( and affordable ).   The only caution I feel about this veritable monster of a speaker, is that you mention the word 'grind' in your review - and Celestion seem to be marketing it as a 'monster of rock' .

I am therefore going to ask ( when played absolutely clean ) - if it sounds as warm & rounded / more than / equal to / or less so than the EVL12M.

I am thinking smooth / rounded clean tones here, but welcome the tighter bottom end and less colouration than ( for example ) the Greenback.  I have a 10" Greenback in a 20 watt valve combo - and that sounds great, but for the 'bigger guns' - I want a cleaner / more neutral  ( but seductive  ) tone .

As you have both the G12K-100s and the legendary EVM12L - you are the ideal person to ask !

( Be warned, I may plug a Telecaster into this , but don't let that stand between us ) ...     :)

[shaman]

super clean..bright..no color..I play clean strat thru mine-I get huge headroom, but my amps are big in the headroom area!!!it simply reproduces what you are feeding it-in my case, it allows my amps to really do their "thing"!!

[Roobubba]

There is more colouration of the tone through a G12K-100 than an EVM 12L. Not in a bad way, I might add - the cleans are warm and smooth - still a good clear top end, though, but the mids are beautifully balanced, IMHO.
I'm not sure if you'll be able to handle the awesomeness of either speaker, given that you obviously own a telecaster ;) hehe

When you push these with a loud clean signal (or as clean as you can manage with a 5150-II - LOL), they do have wonderful fatness - fatter than the EVM12Ls, I'd say. That's part of the reason I think the pairing works so well, and why it would work just as well with Hot-100s, too. I had some Hot-100s in a Randall combo I had, but the amp itself was pretty poor, so I wouldn't like to comment on the speakers too specifically. I was impressed with them, though, I remember that!

It's tough, because you can't simply buy them all to test which speakers/combination of speakers works best for you. Well, you could, but you'd lose out on the resale value of the speakers you don't end up using!

I know it doesn't necessarily help you make up your mind, but I'd say you'd probably be very very happy with any of the speakers we've been discussing in this thread (Delta 12s, EVMs, G12K or Hot-100s). I'd personally lean towards the EVMs for the power handling, considering you're after a completely clean tone with a lot of headroom. Two of these will take pretty much any signal any guitar am can throw at them, without blinking!!

Good luck!

Roo

[Fourth Feline]

Hi Roo,  :)

MMMmmmm fatness  :P - I like the sound of that.  I am also very aware of what you ( and Shaman in the post above you ) say about the EVM12L.  Thanks for the ongoing advice , as it all helps me ask myself the relevant questions as to what specific qualities I am chasing .  Woogie is also helping me via P.M. - so I have an abundance of info coming in .  :D

As always, it's worth buying the B.K.P. pickups just for the forum !  :lol:

( Oh - and the TONE ! ) .