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FernandoDuarte

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Re: Baritone Pickups
« Reply #45 on: January 20, 2009, 11:02:30 AM »
the Zeelbacaster of Yolbinius 4 is the ugliest guitar ever created anywhere

WTF???

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Re: Baritone Pickups
« Reply #46 on: January 20, 2009, 11:46:23 AM »

True dat - its well known that the Zeelbacaster of Yolbinius 4 is the ugliest guitar ever created anywhere, by anyone. So unsightly and inelegant is its design that its players and anyone that goes to 'see' them live have to cut their own eyes from their head to save themselves the psychological trauma of viewing such a catastrophically hideous instrument.

But the telecaster isnt far behind.

To quote GTA IV: "Cousin, I don't think I could love you more if you had titties!"

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Fernando, the zeelbacaster is a guitar of extraterrestrial origin. Only one is known on earth, and its held at Area 51 behind 6 feet of lead in a room with no lights. The last person to take a peek at it went stark raving mad, and so damaged was his sense of asthetics by the experience he developed a crush on and began to stalk Cilla Black, and now plays a telecaster.

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Re: Baritone Pickups
« Reply #47 on: January 20, 2009, 12:24:02 PM »
It seems we have a revolution on our hands so here's the Gallery of cool:

In an entirely heterosexual way this man is cooler and more talented than most people alive...He's even wearing Filp Flops!!

Ah the tele that started the 'love'!

More sweet Tele action...No rude headstock weirdness to boot!

OOoo I just found this one, I think I need a new project! :D

Just some of the cool that comes with the Tele!!


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Re: Baritone Pickups
« Reply #48 on: January 20, 2009, 12:38:33 PM »
I'm sorry, but I can't not respond to those pics!

Top one: regardless of the quality of the player (and I don't think anyone is disputing that, the guitar still makes him look... you get the meaning. He also needs to eat more meat, but that's by the by ;)

Next up: "Electric Joy" LOL! I actually burst out laughing when I saw this pic! LOOK AT THAT POSE!!! I think he'd still look over-camp without the tele (I do have some gay friends, by the way, and the one I just showed this to agreed with me!), although the tele itself only adds to this appearance!

Next, the black 'metal' tele: Good points - lost the cr@ppy bridge and control plate, gained humbuckers. Bad points: Top 'horn' still ****ing shite, headstock awful. Overall: an improvement, but still rubbish.

Last up: LOL Good to see the sense of humour :)

You won't change my mind on this, but keep trying, it's funny :)

Roo


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Re: Baritone Pickups
« Reply #49 on: January 20, 2009, 01:46:05 PM »
Hahahah lovely picatures all round, but I will admit the Electric joy one is a touch of early 90's gay. It was more about the Ibanez which started me down the Tele road than anything else.

I could never try to convert as there are so many tele players that I can't defend, but I can appreciate the old country standard when she's done correctly. Here's some more candy that has nothing to do with my new found love of the Baritone:

Not too sure on the Blue but like the carve top.

sooper cool!

Not a tele but doing a great impression.

Mr Carpenter rules!

Mmm Saraceno!

Ta

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Re: Baritone Pickups
« Reply #50 on: January 20, 2009, 02:00:01 PM »
Argh! My eyes!!! That white 7-string is HIDEOUS!!!! And it should be a fanned-fret build, too! ;)

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Re: Baritone Pickups
« Reply #51 on: January 20, 2009, 02:06:14 PM »
Argh! My eyes!!! That white 7-string is HIDEOUS!!!! And it should be a fanned-fret build, too! ;)

Can I ask what the fanned fretting actually does, I've seen it on some 7 and 8 strings. I'm sure it's about intonation, but I don't know the science behind it?

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Re: Baritone Pickups
« Reply #52 on: January 20, 2009, 02:13:26 PM »
Can I ask what the fanned fretting actually does, I've seen it on some 7 and 8 strings. I'm sure it's about intonation, but I don't know the science behind it?


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Re: Baritone Pickups
« Reply #53 on: January 20, 2009, 02:17:35 PM »
Argh! My eyes!!! That white 7-string is HIDEOUS!!!! And it should be a fanned-fret build, too! ;)

Can I ask what the fanned fretting actually does, I've seen it on some 7 and 8 strings. I'm sure it's about intonation, but I don't know the science behind it?

As I understand it, but bear in mind I am a bear of very little brain, the longer scale length gives better tension on the lower strings (which are correspondingly higher gauge, too) - in the same way you have 30"+ for basses and phat strings, which gives downtuned notes a much better sound - less likely to have fret buzz (proper string tension), the notes simply sound much better. But the trouble with non-fanned fret 6s, 7s and 8s, is that if you have very long strings on the treble side, in order to reach the correct pitch, the tension is too high so you'll end up snapping them all the time and it'll be really uncomfortable to play.
So, that's why fanned fret guitars are better :)

Please step in and correct me if I'm wrong, someone!

Roo

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Re: Baritone Pickups
« Reply #54 on: January 20, 2009, 02:51:07 PM »
Thanks Fernando! :D

I take it this is your baby then Roo 8). Very cool and I like the liquid shape that still retains the metal vibe. It looks like there is a fair amount of math that goes into planning the fanned fret system. I was looking at the hardware that features on the Mick Thompson Ibanez, which of course is straight fretted. The hardware here looks all rather specialised, is it all custom?

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Re: Baritone Pickups
« Reply #55 on: January 20, 2009, 02:57:22 PM »
The bridge is, I believe, an adaptation of Doug and Blackmachine's method for his F8. The only parts that were not 'off the shelf' I believe are the tuners, and that's only because the standard locking Sperzels didn't have an aperture wide enough to fit the bottom string through! When Wez called them up, they sent out a custom set with pre-drilled holes large enough for the low strings (up to about 75ish I guess?) for a *very* reasonable price. Excellent customer service, there :)
Aside from that, the maths for where the bridge and nut go, at what angles, where your parallel point is (in this case, it's the 7th fret, but it could in theory be anywhere) is reasonably straightforward, but the exact placement of all of these (and of course the frets!) is of course more complicated than on a non fanned-fret build. It is, I've no doubt, a lot more work, but the result is a wonderfully articulate and piano-like tone on the cleans, and brutal attack when pushed.

I'm sure Wez will answer your questions much more accurately and succinctly than I can, though!

Roo

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Re: Baritone Pickups
« Reply #56 on: January 20, 2009, 02:59:26 PM »
It seems we have a revolution on our hands so here's the Gallery of cool:

I used that very same picture of Kotzen in this thread here:

http://bareknucklepickups.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=13972.105

There's no winning this argument (which is NOT to say that Roo is in any way correct).
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Re: Baritone Pickups
« Reply #57 on: January 20, 2009, 03:13:35 PM »
It seems we have a revolution on our hands so here's the Gallery of cool:

I used that very same picture of Kotzen in this thread here:

http://bareknucklepickups.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=13972.105

There's no winning this argument (which is NOT to say that Roo is in any way correct).

Yeah, but I am though, innit :)