see, I read that, and I kinda understand it. Its just at the same time I kinda don't since I don't have the Painkiller or Coldsweat to compare to. I know how it compares to the Coldsweat and Painkiller, and I know it would be more evil sounding, darker and compressed than a standarded nailbomb. Its just I've never tried any knuckles besides my warpig. iunno man, thanks though