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JustBecos

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Eastman Guitars
« on: March 07, 2009, 08:12:27 PM »
I have been looking at semi's 335 style and have come across Eastman guitars which look really nice but not had a chance to try one. Has anyone here had a chance to play any of there guitars or have any opinion on them.

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Not many places stock them, but there is one in derby which I could go try, but it quite a long round trip for me, so I thought  i'd see what the opinion here was on them.

this is a pic of the one in Derby, I think it looks stunning

http://www.fouldsmusic.co.uk/image.php?object_type=detailed&image_id=1459&window=popup

Philly Q I think it's you that keeps having es 339 gas, they do a 3 different body sizes 14" 15" and 16". I expect the 14" is similar is size the 339 also just a little bit cheaper. 

opps put the links as emails

« Last Edit: March 07, 2009, 08:23:07 PM by JustBecos »

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Re: Eastman Guitars
« Reply #1 on: March 08, 2009, 06:18:25 AM »
I haven't played one yet but I've seen LOTS of them in the flesh and they look very nice. They have a slightly worn look about them that's attractive. The thing to bear in mind is that they are made in China, although the quality is supposed to be top notch.
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Re: Eastman Guitars
« Reply #2 on: March 08, 2009, 07:24:16 AM »
You need to speak to Fourth Feline who posts in here. He has done some great research on 335's and settled on a Tanglewood with MQ's in the B/N. Have a look back to one of his threads on a search.

There are a lot of builders who are currently making some good quality 335 guitars

Tanglewood
Vintage
Indie
Peerless
Adam Black
Yamaha
ect
All need a p/u swap and a maybe pots and switches changed depending on whats in them to start with.

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Re: Eastman Guitars
« Reply #3 on: March 08, 2009, 01:01:21 PM »
You need to speak to Fourth Feline who posts in here. He has done some great research on 335's and settled on a Tanglewood with MQ's in the B/N. Have a look back to one of his threads on a search.

There are a lot of builders who are currently making some good quality 335 guitars

Tanglewood
Vintage
Indie
Peerless
Adam Black
Yamaha
ect
All need a p/u swap and a maybe pots and switches changed depending on whats in them to start with.



Cheers Johnny !  :)

I have not tried or seen all of the above, but my impressions so far , are :

1) Based on direct experience :

Tanglewood :    being the cheapest to buy, yet the machine heads, wiring, pots and pickups are  fine as they were really.  To be specific - the TH502 I bought had Grover Machine heads from the factory, full size 500K volume and tone pots and sheilded wire as standard.  I even ended up putting the 'stock' pickups back in - as they seemed fine. Even better news for more recent buyers , is that ( according their very helpfull staff who I e:mailed for more info ) my pickups where from the ceramic P/U era - whereas production has moved to Alnico pickups .  It set up really nicely - and plays really slinky.  The downside ?  probably that mine was basswood laminate body and mahoghany neck - so the bass strings do not sound as bright and articulate with Alnico II / weaker pickups as my ( maple ) 'Vintage'  Archtop.  I got mine 'shop soiled' - but only about £140. The most affordable and solid option ended up being the Tanglewood.

(Bear in mind I always swap the plastic nut off of my guitars for something more resonant- and Tanglewood / Vintage have plastic nuts ).

Vintage :  Better choice of woods, and more authentic if you want something that looks directly like a Gibson copy.  The action set up rattle free easily as well - the downsides being that the machine heads were very light weight 'Wilkinson' copies of pressed metal Grovers and a bit weedy. They held tune well, but I wanted the weight / more solid shaft / front headstock washers of real solid cast Grovers.  The pickups where only just o.k. - but probably a bit bright/ stiff sounding for an archtop.  The Volume and tone pots where minatures - but at least had the right value ( i.e. 500k ).  Set up wise and generally,  I could have gigged this straight out of the delivery box.

Aria : I tried one of these in a shop, and the neck action on it was awful. No amount of lowering the bridge and adjusting the trussrod could get the action anywhere near the neck. Yes, I probaly got a bad one - but it did seem to suggest that  ( unlike Tanglewood / Vintage ) in the same price brackets -where was the quality control between factory and distributor ?


 Buy the Vintage if you probably want to  upgrade bits / re-wire and change pickups but end up with a nice end result ( I.e. deliberate copy of an unaffordable brand ) - due to the neck / frets / body being very good from an assembly / luthier standpoint. I could get mine for £250 - with the intention of upgrading - and as I like the ES-175 look , did just that.

For 'ready to play off the shelf' - I was very  tempted by Peerless, but had something like the pickup(s) been not quite to my liking - there would be no upgrade budget left. They have had the sense to use proper Grovers, bone nuts, selected woods though.

2) Based on specifications / reputation but NOT direct experience

Eastman : Seemed to be going for the best product quality - and the appearance of a guitar worth much more . I have not seen / handled one myself - but those helpfull chaps at Foulds of Derby seem to know their product, especially when it comes to Jazz orientated guitars and accessories. If I look at photos of their ( Eastman ) Archtops, they ( as has been mentioned by Gingataff ) look less glossy / plasticky than Vintage / Tanglewood / Aria / Hagstrom and even Peerless.  I would go for Eastman if spending more serious ££££, but probably be torn between them and the Peerless in the realm of Archtops.

My Vintage guitar turned out great, but I bought, knowing that it was going to be an affordable base for deliberate modification. All it had to do ( for me ) was to play VERY slinky when fitted with 12s, or 13 top Flatwound strings ; be well assembled ( including neat binding e.t.c ) - and look the part of a Gibson Archtop.  The idea being to knowingly spend £250 - then copy / better something that Gibson retail at about £2,500. 

Yamaha :  Had I had oodles more cash, the SA2200 is seemingly legendary. The problem for me ( during my 335 hunting days ) - being that the price ( if we are talking 335- a - likes ) puts it in the 'Why not get a good Gibson second hand and retain a higher re-sale value later' category.



So :

For 335 types , try the Tanglewood first. After you set the nut / action up to your liking,  It could be a complete solution without mods.

Vintage for naughty impersonations of Gibson, but potentially budget for pickups, pots and and tuners e.t.c.

The other ' higher ticket' versions ( i.e. Yamaha / Eastman / Peerless ) if you see one you like so much you feel easy about paying the extra ££ and not modifying it.

Happy hunting !  :)
« Last Edit: March 08, 2009, 01:20:18 PM by Fourth Feline »

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Re: Eastman Guitars
« Reply #4 on: March 08, 2009, 01:17:09 PM »
Philly Q I think it's you that keeps having es 339 gas, they do a 3 different body sizes 14" 15" and 16". I expect the 14" is similar is size the 339 also just a little bit cheaper. 

You're right, it is me  :lol: .

They look very nice indeed - and making essentially the same guitar in a choice of body sizes is a great idea.   The T184MX would be the one for me, although it sounds like it's constructed more like a CS-336 than an ES-339.

I wonder what the pickups are like?  I know Kent Armstrong has a reputation for making excellent "jazz" pickups.
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