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Re: New Cold Sweats! But now I miss the Painkillers...
« Reply #15 on: May 02, 2009, 06:49:39 PM »
what's the amp, btw?  :D
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Re: New Cold Sweats! But now I miss the Painkillers...
« Reply #16 on: May 02, 2009, 07:08:37 PM »
Flat 50. Flat 52. Mule. Old Guard P90. Custom Strat Set (Pat Pend 63).

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Re: New Cold Sweats! But now I miss the Painkillers...
« Reply #17 on: May 02, 2009, 08:47:06 PM »
the 10-band graphic EQ is a great idea, as is the OD pedal to cut out some of the bass.

I'd have gone with a Miracle Man for Megadeth myself.

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Re: New Cold Sweats! But now I miss the Painkillers...
« Reply #18 on: May 03, 2009, 03:55:14 PM »
eq is a very good idea

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Re: New Cold Sweats! But now I miss the Painkillers...
« Reply #19 on: May 10, 2009, 03:46:05 PM »
mustaine used to have a handwound duncan distortion "juarez" in his classic black jackson kv1, which is less tight than a lot of ALNICO pickups, and no near as tight as a cold sweat
then he swapped it for a JB, that is not tight at all
then his active model, that is not really tight neither
I think he's looking for alder tone on mahogany and that will (happily) never happen  :lol:

Not sure to really get what is said here....

As far as I know, Mustaine's favorite KV1 is fitted with a L-500 L Neck and a SH-5 bridge. Maybe he had an handwound SH6, but he prefered the SH5 for its clarity over the standard SH6 so that the US KV models were the only one Jackson to come with a SH5. At that time the KV1, was made with poplar, that Mustaine used a lot, as well as Korina and of course Mahogany.

Then Jackson stopped dealing with B. Lawrence, and stopped using so different pickups and woods for their guitars as soon as Fender put his hands on the brand.  :(

The SH4 / SH2 combo became the new Jackson standard as well as alder wood, which is now used on almost every model from the Soloist right down to the Rhoads...Even if since that the King V Mustaine signature model was sold with thoses features, it's quite a shortcut to say you need Alder and a muddy SH4 in your life to sound like Mustaine, imho... :lol:

For instance, if the SH4 was THE Mustaine pickup, then Tim would advise the holydiver (which is the BKP most similar to the SH4) to ALL customers who want Deth tones....But everybody knows this would be a VERY poor choice...

Indeed BKP highly recommend the PK for Megadeth, (or the MM, or the CS or even sometimes the (C-)NB depending on guitar designs, rigs, etc), so what is the explanation here ?  :wallbash:

To me all this has more things to do with money agrements and endorsements than anything else.

There are so many example around, and we have the same story here with Broderick leaving BKP for Di Marzio... Of course he will keep some BKP's in his personal guitars. And even if Di Marzio is his endorser now, I'm not sure he will say one day that he prefers Di Marzio over Bare Knuckle's.... :roll:

Anyway....BACK TO TOPIC  :shock:

Im also hoping to get a MXR 10 band eq to see what it can do with both the CS and Painkillers.... I've come to the conclusion that as great as BKP are, I shouldn't expect them to do EVERYTHING!

If you are positive the C-NB cannot be an option for you, then Yes the 10 band EQ should work with the PK.

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Re: New Cold Sweats! But now I miss the Painkillers...
« Reply #20 on: May 10, 2009, 09:27:55 PM »
As far as I know, Mustaine's favorite KV1 is fitted with a L-500 L Neck and a SH-5 bridge. Maybe he had an handwound SH6, but he prefered the SH5 for its clarity over the standard SH6 so that the US KV models were the only one Jackson to come with a SH5. At that time the KV1, was made with poplar, that Mustaine used a lot, as well as Korina and of course Mahogany.

http://www.jacksonguitarpalace.com/J2713/index.htm

Indeed BKP highly recommend the PK for Megadeth, (or the MM, or the CS or even sometimes the (C-)NB depending on guitar designs, rigs, etc), so what is the explanation here ?  :wallbash:

those still have the closest voicings to the duncan distortion, except the MM

Im also hoping to get a MXR 10 band eq to see what it can do with both the CS and Painkillers.... I've come to the conclusion that as great as BKP are, I shouldn't expect them to do EVERYTHING!

If you are positive the C-NB cannot be an option for you, then Yes the 10 band EQ should work with the PK.

his guitar had a mid boost
I use a vintage 6-band maxon eq (from the first ts808 line 1979-1982) with the cold sweat
just a very slight boost between 400 and 1.6Khz and voilá  :D
a bit noisy, but it's awesome
just make sure you have some kind of noise gate after it (I use a HUSH) :lol:
a wylde overdrive or tube screamer will do the job anyway
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Re: New Cold Sweats! But now I miss the Painkillers...
« Reply #21 on: May 11, 2009, 02:23:05 PM »
mustaine used to have a handwound duncan distortion "juarez" in his classic black jackson kv1, which is less tight than a lot of ALNICO pickups, and no near as tight as a cold sweat
then he swapped it for a JB, that is not tight at all
then his active model, that is not really tight neither
I think he's looking for alder tone on mahogany and that will (happily) never happen  :lol:

In fact when I read you here....what I thought is that... I was wondering if Mustaine was dumb-to-deth-enough to achieve his sound with so inapropriate gears or if he needed to replace his guitar tech !  :lol:

http://www.jacksonguitarpalace.com/J2713/index.htm

This page is interesting to know Mustaine's personnal phone call  8) and to (only) learn deeply on the specifications of ONE particular guitar (one of his first Jackson custom order actually). However the related website to your link shows all the evolution of the KV models which is pretty close my previous thoughts.   :wink:


Indeed BKP highly recommend the PK for Megadeth, (or the MM, or the CS or even sometimes the (C-)NB depending on guitar designs, rigs, etc), so what is the explanation here ?  :wallbash:

those still have the closest voicings to the duncan distortion, except the MM

And also those Ceramics are very tight too, right ? So we agree, we are VERY far away from the JB and also the SH5 / SH6 on this point !


his guitar had a mid boost
I use a vintage 6-band maxon eq (from the first ts808 line 1979-1982) with the cold sweat
just a very slight boost between 400 and 1.6Khz and voilá  :D
a bit noisy, but it's awesome
just make sure you have some kind of noise gate after it (I use a HUSH) :lol:
a wylde overdrive or tube screamer will do the job anyway


This J-1200 Active electronics and J-50N/J-80 combo were used a lot by Jackson at that time (but hopefully this didn't last too long). I remember my first Rhoads to be fitted with that as standard, and trust me this mid boost is pure shitee and not very reliable...

The more I think of it, the more I still think the C-NB would have been one stunning option here anyway... :roll: