When are the new Engl cabs released?

[Ibanez2570z]

Also what will they retail at?

[Antag]

Do you mean the Black series (basically the same as the existing ones but all black :))?  They're out now - Thomann had them in stock recently...

[Ibanez2570z]

Indeed :). Thanks. Are Engl cabs any good. I currently use the orange ppc 212 which is pretty good.

[Antag]

They're solidly built and heavy.

I have an E412SS, however I swapped the stock V60 speakers out for Classic Lead 80s & G12K100s - never intended to keep the V60s which are quite dark & very scooped which wasn't really what I wanted....

IMHO the "V" 4x12 cabs are a bit of a rip-off, >£250 more for Vintage 30 speakers & all plywood construction (the sides of the "S" cabs are chipboard).

[JDC]

what's so special about these new cabs?

if I was in the market for a cab I'd be look at diezel front loaded cabs where you have the option of a g12k100 instead of v30s, that might only apply to the 4x12 though :(

[Antag]

what's so special about these new cabs?

Nothing - they're just Engl "S" & "V" cabs with black grilles & cornerpieces (as opposed to grey & chrome).

if I was in the market for a cab I'd be look at diezel front loaded cabs where you have the option of a g12k100 instead of v30s, that might only apply to the 4x12 though :(

My Engl cab + four new speakers worked out cheaper than a Diezel cab, gave me the combination of speakers I really wanted plus it looked good paired with my Engl head.

[dave_mc]

the engl cabs i have tried sounded very tight, and very modern. good for metal, but if you play more rock stuff, the orange you already have might be better.

[Ibanez2570z]

Yeah the orange is pretty dam good for rock. You can do metal at a push with a screamer head and orange cab but obviously better options exist.