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maddnotez

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Re: BKP Noob. Need help with choosing pickup. (confusion with resistance)
« Reply #15 on: June 07, 2010, 06:03:11 PM »
also i think MDV has also owned a warpig so why not send him a PM and ask

then again i am not 100% on this or not.

yea i did, hopefully he replies. But DAMN....its almost perfect to what I am looking for.
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Re: BKP Noob. Need help with choosing pickup. (confusion with resistance)
« Reply #16 on: June 07, 2010, 07:19:56 PM »
Don't get hung up on DC resistance, its not output level.  It's only a useful comparison when comparing same manufacturer and using the exact same type of wire for the coil. 

and same magnet type of course.

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Re: BKP Noob. Need help with choosing pickup. (confusion with resistance)
« Reply #17 on: June 07, 2010, 07:36:41 PM »
So what are all of the variables with a pickup?

Types of wire, Ceramic vs Alinico, Resistance. Anything else that makes any difference at all?

Wire gauge, kind of alnico (II, III, IV or V - read the sticky post about this), the bobin's size, construction type (pole pieces ? allen screws ? rail ? magnets going thru the coil - like Fender single coils ? etc), baseplate or no baseplate, symetrical or "tapered" (slighty asymetrical) wiring, and of course how the wiring itself is done. And probably quite a few other things including phase of the moon, blind virgins tears and some very ancient rituals :mrgreen:

As Marauder already mentionned, DC resistance is only a very partial indication of what the pup will sound like on a given guitar.
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Re: BKP Noob. Need help with choosing pickup. (confusion with resistance)
« Reply #18 on: June 07, 2010, 11:15:40 PM »
So what are all of the variables with a pickup?

Types of wire, Ceramic vs Alinico, Resistance. Anything else that makes any difference at all?

Wire gauge, kind of alnico (II, III, IV or V - read the sticky post about this), the bobin's size, construction type (pole pieces ? allen screws ? rail ? magnets going thru the coil - like Fender single coils ? etc), baseplate or no baseplate, symetrical or "tapered" (slighty asymetrical) wiring, and of course how the wiring itself is done. And probably quite a few other things including phase of the moon, blind virgins tears and some very ancient rituals :mrgreen:

As Marauder already mentionned, DC resistance is only a very partial indication of what the pup will sound like on a given guitar.


 :lol:

Nice!!! So if I were to wrap virgin tears in 0 gauge, with Alinico V with no baseplate I could melt faces
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Re: BKP Noob. Need help with choosing pickup. (confusion with resistance)
« Reply #19 on: June 07, 2010, 11:20:49 PM »
Close, but with no baseplate the pickup would just fall apart.  :wink:



(Unless we're talking single-coils of course. D'oh!  PDT_038 )
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Re: BKP Noob. Need help with choosing pickup. (confusion with resistance)
« Reply #20 on: June 08, 2010, 02:18:43 PM »
Just to echo what's already been said - I'd like to highlight the very good advice to get away from thinking about DC resistance of pickups.

It's FAR more important to focus on the tonal characteristics of the pickup, and to match these as best as possible to your requirements. In particular the factors to consider would be:

Tonal spectrum - is a pickup scooped, fairly flat eq, mid-humped, strong in the bass, strong in treble etc etc

Gain tones available - Can this pickup get dirty enough? How are the cleans? Is the output in the right ballpark: Any of the contemporary range can get utterly dirty enough - and I mean any. If I can get utter br00talz out of a black dog, you shouldn't be worrying about the differences between a C-Pig and a Miracle Man.

Combination with the woods of the guitar - Does this pickup match well with the tone woods of your guitar?

and of course: What does it look like - I find this is the hardest bit about choosing my pickups, because there's a great selection of finishes available!

I don't think this message will get through, though :(

Roo

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Re: BKP Noob. Need help with choosing pickup. (confusion with resistance)
« Reply #21 on: June 08, 2010, 04:59:28 PM »
Just to echo what's already been said - I'd like to highlight the very good advice to get away from thinking about DC resistance of pickups.

It's FAR more important to focus on the tonal characteristics of the pickup, and to match these as best as possible to your requirements. In particular the factors to consider would be:

Tonal spectrum - is a pickup scooped, fairly flat eq, mid-humped, strong in the bass, strong in treble etc etc

Gain tones available - Can this pickup get dirty enough? How are the cleans? Is the output in the right ballpark: Any of the contemporary range can get utterly dirty enough - and I mean any. If I can get utter br00talz out of a black dog, you shouldn't be worrying about the differences between a C-Pig and a Miracle Man.

Combination with the woods of the guitar - Does this pickup match well with the tone woods of your guitar?

and of course: What does it look like - I find this is the hardest bit about choosing my pickups, because there's a great selection of finishes available!

I don't think this message will get through, though :(

Roo

No it does. But im thinking painkiller after hearing more clips. I have an Ibanez S-5470, Mahogonay
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