I think I asked before but I'll ask again anyway.

[kylendm]

Alright here's my guitar. It's a JEM7VWH it's an older model so it's got the ebony fretboard.

Alder body
One piece maple neck
Ebony fretboard
Lo-Pro Trem

The problem is I have a C-Pig in it already but when I go to Drop A# it gets very loose and flubby. It's a great pickup for C# and Drop D but once you go that low it kind of looses it self. I feel it's also a bit too thick for my needs.

What kind of guitar do I have? Bright, average, dark?

Also what would you recommend for detunning, fast riffing and just overall clarity. I got Painkiller from Tim and Miracle Man from another person but maybe you guys can help me out. I don't want something extremely tight but I hate the flub I'm getting. Compared to a Seymour JB it's just to thick and loose but the JB is too shrill and has way to much treble.

[Roobubba]

I would have said PK. It's encouraging (to me!) that Tim says this: follow the man's advice!

I find the MM can get incredibly thick (I haven't got a C-Pig for comparison, but right now my sound is bassist-worryingly thick and I'm using a MM ;)), and although I use it in drop A and octave-down drop E I do find it sufficiently tight in that setting. But also bear in mind I'm using a 28"-on-the-bass-side multiscale baritone with fat strings, so it's not easy to compare details.

I reckon if you're not getting on with the C-Pig, the MM would probably be a mistake, and I also reckon that when Tim says PK, getting a PK is the best option :)

Let us know how you get on ;)

Roo

[brian_ward]

are you sizing up your strings the lower you tune? if not, theres your flub. i heard a painkiller in a gibson les paul studio in b and it was super tight. i wouldn't hesitate to use one.

[kylendm]

Yeah I have some pretty thick strings on at the moment.

12,16, 20, 38, 52, 60

I think I'll try out the PK and see how that goes.

Thanks guys.

[octavio_amzer]

Go for the Painkiller

[D4niel]

Funny...
I am currently using a C-Pig with my Lp Baritone (the loger scale with 27,75 might make a difference tonewise), tuned to G#.
I do not have the flubbyness problem you describe and the pickup is not really loose ... it is just not as tight as the Painkiller, but pretty tight!
Maybe the source of the problem is not the Pu itself?
There are tons of things to concider, if you wanna have a really tight sound that deep!
Like for example Ampsettings (the C-pig is hot and the tuning deep so don't "overgain", not too much bass ect...), stringtension ( I play 13-72 Strings...), the heigth of the Pu (maybe you could play a little with that? Tweaking the position of the pickup was really important to get mine tight), ect...

If that doesn't help, I'd really go fot the Painkiller ... it's a veryvery tight pickup!