I just quit my job

[Johnny Mac]

I have a similar attitude but have learned to take deep breaths in order to prevent changing my biochemistry harmfully due to the idiocy of others.  However, I've got a lot of respect for people who make no such concessions and just dish out bollockings or quit on principle.  It's called passion and we don't see enough of it in this country - we passively accept mediocrity with one breath then whinge about it with another.  I think Roy Keane's rant at Mick McCarthy before walking out during the world cup in France is a classic example with how to deal with someone who is being stubbornly cr@p:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2006/aug/24/sport.comment

Some great quotes there. Straight talk, you can't beat it!

[roland_rat]

I got to this thread rather late, but glad it all seems to have worked out for you. 8)

[38thBeatle]

Give it to 'em Johnny.

[Johnny Mac]

Give it to 'em Johnny.

I did. My boss asked me to meet him in the pub Friday night and bought me lots of beer for getting all this out in the open.

I wish I had my own business, then I wouldn't have to work with numptys.

[fbloke]

Give it to 'em Johnny.

I did. My boss asked me to meet him in the pub Friday night and bought me lots of beer for getting all this out in the open.

I wish I had my own business, then I wouldn't have to work with numptys.

Yep, it took a man to do the man's job here Johnny. I'm glad your boss rewarded you for having the cojones.
 Self-employed is certainly where I'm headed, potentially after the fastest job quit in my career so far. I started my new 3 month contract job today and my boss simply didn't bother to turn up to meet me to give me the project brief.  He was in the room next door all afternoon.  He also hasn't drawn up a contract yet.  So, I sat at a desk in a room full of strange people for 7 hours with absolutely nothing to do, having nothing on paper to tell me that they're going to pay me a single red cent. If the job market wasn't so p1ss poor I would have just gone home after leaving a note telling them to phone me when they have found an anatomy chart and carefully researched "arse" and "elbow".   Is England slowly losing its willingness to bother?  Our business results seem to be mirrored by our progress on the football pitch and I watch the German football team and economy and see a nation who bother to use their brains, have collective responsibility and take pride in a job well done.  I'm not sure it's just my grumpy old man-ness that's leading me to the conclusion that this country is getting more and more dumb.  F*ckwittery abounds.

[dragonfire709]

Give it to 'em Johnny.

I wish I had my own business, then I wouldn't have to work with numptys.

If only that was true, Johnny! Unfortunately when you employ people a small percentage of them become numpty's (usually after they have been working for you for 3 months) and then become your problem!

[Johnny Mac]

Fbloke, regarding your new job, this sort of thing happens a lot now unfortunately. It something that shouldn't though. Do you know what, your looking at Germany in the same way I have this week. It something I've noticed in them before but watching their football team this week makes you think about them as a nation and their ethics ect. They wipe the floor with us, just look at the motor industry. We're becoming a nation if numptys, I blame big brother myself and dole culture myself!  :lol:



 

[fbloke]

Fbloke, regarding your new job, this sort of thing happens a lot now unfortunately. It something that shouldn't though. Do you know what, your looking at Germany in the same way I have this week. It something I've noticed in them before but watching their football team this week makes you think about them as a nation and their ethics ect. They wipe the floor with us, just look at the motor industry. We're becoming a nation if numptys, I blame big brother myself and dole culture myself!  :lol:



 

I agree completely Johnny, although I may now finally allow myself some Jobseeker's Allowance as I am looking for a job again  - this guy continued to not contact me so I politely told his office manager that I couldn't sit here any longer and was off home.  He asked if I'd like to come in and meet the boss tomorrow and said no.  I said he could phone me if he wanted but I was unlikely to continue unless I had a contract and an idea of what he wanted me to do.  Call me a bluff old traditionalist but I think those two things are fairly fundamental to a contractor. Now I have lots of spare time to add none of my talents to industry but instead to get to grips with those tricky Paul Kossoff chords I need to master before the next band practice.  All's well that ends well!

[FernandoDuarte]

What kind of guy contract somebody without telling what he's supposed to do?? Sounds like the most weird thing EVER to me :?

[Johnny Mac]

We're getting feedback from customers already thanking us for a better service.  :)

[HTH AMPS]

I have a similar attitude but have learned to take deep breaths in order to prevent changing my biochemistry harmfully due to the idiocy of others.  However, I've got a lot of respect for people who make no such concessions and just dish out bollockings or quit on principle.  It's called passion and we don't see enough of it in this country - we passively accept mediocrity with one breath then whinge about it with another.  I think Roy Keane's rant at Mick McCarthy before walking out during the world cup in France is a classic example with how to deal with someone who is being stubbornly cr@p:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2006/aug/24/sport.comment

Some great quotes there. Straight talk, you can't beat it!

you really can't beat Keane's closing statement to McCarthy...  "You can stick it up your bollocks"  :lol:

[HTH AMPS]

Give it to 'em Johnny.

I did. My boss asked me to meet him in the pub Friday night and bought me lots of beer for getting all this out in the open.

I wish I had my own business, then I wouldn't have to work with numptys.

Yep, it took a man to do the man's job here Johnny. I'm glad your boss rewarded you for having the cojones.
 Self-employed is certainly where I'm headed, potentially after the fastest job quit in my career so far. I started my new 3 month contract job today and my boss simply didn't bother to turn up to meet me to give me the project brief.  He was in the room next door all afternoon.  He also hasn't drawn up a contract yet.  So, I sat at a desk in a room full of strange people for 7 hours with absolutely nothing to do, having nothing on paper to tell me that they're going to pay me a single red cent. If the job market wasn't so p1ss poor I would have just gone home after leaving a note telling them to phone me when they have found an anatomy chart and carefully researched "arse" and "elbow".   Is England slowly losing its willingness to bother?  Our business results seem to be mirrored by our progress on the football pitch and I watch the German football team and economy and see a nation who bother to use their brains, have collective responsibility and take pride in a job well done.  I'm not sure it's just my grumpy old man-ness that's leading me to the conclusion that this country is getting more and more dumb.  F*ckwittery abounds.

I think that most certainly is reflective of the UK at present - I take great pride in anything I'm involved in be it at work or otherwise.  I've brought up flaws in 'company processes' numerous times, but get told "that's how management want it done, regardless".  Its all down to management needing to keep themselves in a job - when things are done correctly, the business self-manages to some extent, thereby making management's input into the whole mix fairly minimal.  They need to be seen to be trying to improve things all time, but what happens is things are changed to just another way, not necessarily a 'better' way.  Reminds me of Blazing Saddles... "wait!!! - we gotta protect our phoney baloney jobs"  :roll: