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Re: Recording gear for a beginner
« Reply #15 on: July 18, 2010, 06:21:12 PM »
And if youre recording a miced amp DONT FORGET THE HEADPHONES!

They're vital. You need something accurate with good isolation, and the best I've found that has both of those are the ATHM50s.

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Re: Recording gear for a beginner
« Reply #16 on: July 18, 2010, 06:43:59 PM »
I'd recommend the Line 6 Toneport UX-1. It's a relatively cheap interface with Pod Farm, which works great and gives very decent tones. Also has the capacity to record bass and vocals.

As for sequencing software you could try Cakewalk Guitar Tracks. It's what I use and it's good if you haven't got the money for something like Logic.

This actually did cross my mind, and the more I think, it's probably the route I'll take. Can the Toneport be used with the line out from my amp?

Also, with Steven Slate drums, there is an "EX" version. Is that an expnsion or a massively reduced version? If it's a stand alone, it looks like it could be quite good for the £65 ish it will cost.

Thanks for all the info again MDV. I never got round to mentioning in the other thread, but that song is pretty great. It's making me consider a Ceramic Nailbom or Aftermath for my eventual second BKP set.

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Re: Recording gear for a beginner
« Reply #17 on: July 18, 2010, 06:46:53 PM »
the ex is the standard software

has 10 kits including some great metal,rock,pop ones

you can also build the kits from the independent kit pieces and mix samples together

like 2 kicks and or 2 snares to get the best of two samples you like.

the platinum is just the ex with all the add ons.

I think they currently have a deal where you can buy ex + 2 add ons one of which you get free for a decent price

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Re: Recording gear for a beginner
« Reply #18 on: July 18, 2010, 07:07:36 PM »
I just checked, $159 for the basic + 2 expansions (~£103)...seems pretty good...

How is the Line 6 Toneport/Pod Studio UX1...both for direct recording and if I decided to us it as an interface for a mic later? And can I run the line out of my amp into it?

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Re: Recording gear for a beginner
« Reply #19 on: July 18, 2010, 07:12:54 PM »
well i have used one for direct recording for a few years and still use it for bass & clean guitars.

www.myspace.com/transcenduk

all those clips are done using the line6 modelling only other than the magic cover

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http://bareknucklepickups.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=21786.0

this one is using a sm57 micing my tsl into the toneport.

as for hooking your line out in do you mean for recording and then using impulses or just for straight up recording?

i have used the line out on my marshall into it with poor results  but i actually think thats more the cab emulation thats on the direct output.

And to be honest just the slate pack is more than good enough for anything the magice recording was done with one of the standard metal kits.

the and justice for all one was using the black album kit from the metal and more pack

but i cant actually see myself using much of the metal add ons other than the black album kick and a few of the cymbals for my original stuff.

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Re: Recording gear for a beginner
« Reply #20 on: July 18, 2010, 07:14:44 PM »
Oh yeah i forgot to add i am using the cheaper toneport GX rather than the ux1.

the modelling and everything is the same the only differences is the output is a stereo 3.5mm trs rather than seperate 5mm jacks

and theres only the one input but this can still be used with mics with a xlr to jack convertor

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Re: Recording gear for a beginner
« Reply #21 on: July 18, 2010, 07:36:16 PM »
I'd recommend the Line 6 Toneport UX-1. It's a relatively cheap interface with Pod Farm, which works great and gives very decent tones. Also has the capacity to record bass and vocals.

As for sequencing software you could try Cakewalk Guitar Tracks. It's what I use and it's good if you haven't got the money for something like Logic.

This actually did cross my mind, and the more I think, it's probably the route I'll take. Can the Toneport be used with the line out from my amp?

Also, with Steven Slate drums, there is an "EX" version. Is that an expnsion or a massively reduced version? If it's a stand alone, it looks like it could be quite good for the £65 ish it will cost.

Thanks for all the info again MDV. I never got round to mentioning in the other thread, but that song is pretty great. It's making me consider a Ceramic Nailbom or Aftermath for my eventual second BKP set.

Quite welcome, and thanks :)

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Re: Recording gear for a beginner
« Reply #22 on: July 18, 2010, 09:04:51 PM »
Oh yeah i forgot to add i am using the cheaper toneport GX rather than the ux1.

the modelling and everything is the same the only differences is the output is a stereo 3.5mm trs rather than seperate 5mm jacks

and theres only the one input but this can still be used with mics with a xlr to jack convertor

Well in that case, I'll probably go the GX; the UX1 only seems to have different imputs and has an effect expansion.

So, Line 6 POD Studio GX + Steven Slate drums for now I think and may add that SM57 off in the future sometime.

Thanks once again for everyone's advice.

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Re: Recording gear for a beginner
« Reply #23 on: July 19, 2010, 06:13:01 AM »
Remember to get a copy of reaper its very flexible and simple to use. And you are welcome.

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Re: Recording gear for a beginner
« Reply #24 on: July 19, 2010, 09:10:37 AM »
Another Thumbs up for Steven Slate Drums. I purchased mine for $20 through the AudioMidi.com no brainer deal and I can say for sure it is worth the full retail price. It's flexible and the samples of the classic kits are of the utmost quality.

In Reaper you can also do drum replacement on Acoustic drum tracks with just the built in plugins.

Audio Track of Kick drum
FX Chain
ReaGate to isolate the hits from any spill
JSplugins SStillwell/drumtrigger Translates the hit's to midi from the transients.
Send the Midi output of this track to the Midi  in on your SSD VST instrument track (Very easy to do with Reapers powerful routing)

Viola  :D It's not as pretty as Drumagog or Trigger but it's free and you can trigger any sample from your library not just GOG's or triggers proprietary format  :)


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Re: Recording gear for a beginner
« Reply #25 on: July 21, 2010, 11:30:31 AM »
Saw this in an old mag this morning:

Samson G Track - £137

We Like: Single device for multiple tasks; all leads included; decent sound quality for the price; stand
We Dislike: At this price, absolutely nothing

Seems you can pick them up for less than £100 now.  Don't know if this would be any use.
Advice worth what you just paid for it.