NME Readers Best Metal Album Ever...

[Philly Q]

NME reader buys magazine that advertises poll for best metal albums. Reader is nominally a sensible metal fan and votes for metallica.

NME readers dad finds magazine, votes for ACDC

NME readers son find magazine, vote for Avenged sevenfold.

Metal Dad tells his dad "thats great but its not metal", his dad shrugs, says "sounds like metal to me". Metal dad tells his son "Thats metal, I suppose, but its $%&#ing shitee" and he should get some proper metal herataige. Son yells that he hates his dad, slams the door, runs to his room and whines on facebook to all his mates, telling them to vote for their favourite bands, which are assuredly shitee, as seen in the poll. One of said friends is not otherwise occupied complaining about his parents/school/ineptitude with girls, slamming doors or bemoaning the injustices and suffering of middle class suburban life to vote.

Hence the approximately 1:1:2 ratio of actually good metal to good but not metal to metal but anything but good.

Thats exactly how it happened.

But with slightly different bands each time.  

Believe.

I think that makes pretty much perfect sense.  :lol:

At least until the next hypothesis comes along.

[FELINEGUITARS]

NME reader buys magazine that advertises poll for best metal albums. Reader is nominally a sensible metal fan and votes for metallica.

NME readers dad finds magazine, votes for ACDC

NME readers son find magazine, vote for Avenged sevenfold.

Metal Dad tells his dad "thats great but its not metal", his dad shrugs, says "sounds like metal to me". Metal dad tells his son "Thats metal, I suppose, but its $%&#ing shitee" and he should get some proper metal herataige. Son yells that he hates his dad, slams the door, runs to his room and whines on facebook to all his mates, telling them to vote for their favourite bands, which are assuredly shitee, as seen in the poll. One of said friends is not otherwise occupied complaining about his parents/school/ineptitude with girls, slamming doors or bemoaning the injustices and suffering of middle class suburban life to vote.

Hence the approximately 1:1:2 ratio of actually good metal to good but not metal to metal but anything but good.

LOL

I do get annoyed when bands I liked that were called Heavy Metal when I liked them are now NOT allowed to be called Heavy Metal. Sure there are newer and contemporary bands  that have taken that genre somewhere else, but Sabbath, Metallica etc etc are still heavy metal

To be fair most of what I liked I preferred to call rock or hard rock

[Dmoney]

I think people wrongly associate 'heavy' with down tuned bass boost chug.
In my opinion, heavy is not about the percentage of distortion being directly proportional to the amount of chug.
A heavy riff is a heavy riff regardless. Sabbath will always be heavy.

[Philly Q]

I do get annoyed when bands I liked that were called Heavy Metal when I liked them are now NOT allowed to be called Heavy Metal. Sure there are newer and contemporary bands  that have taken that genre somewhere else, but Sabbath, Metallica etc etc are still heavy metal

To be fair most of what I liked I preferred to call rock or hard rock

+1

I remember the terms "Heavy Rock" and "Hard Rock" as being essentially from the '70s, then sometime in the early '80s (following the NWOBHM, launch of Kerrang! etc) "Metal" became the blanket term.  And that did include AC/DC, Gn'R, even Def Leppard!  I don't remember even hearing the term "Classic Rock" until many years later.

No-one would say those bands were actually "Heavy Metal" bands as such (unlike Black Sabbath, Judas Priest etc).  But they did fall under the "Metal" umbrella.  And I don't see why they shouldn't be included in this NME chart just because the terminology's been redefined (oh so many times  :roll: ) since.

[FELINEGUITARS]

I remember the terms "Heavy Rock" and "Hard Rock" as being essentially from the '70s, then sometime in the early '80s (following the NWOBHM, launch of Kerrang! etc) "Metal" became the blanket term.  And that did include AC/DC, Gn'R, even Def Leppard!  I don't remember even hearing the term "Classic Rock" until many years later.

You didn't hear "classic Rock" till after 2000, or maybe when classic rock magazine launched
It was all post grunge and Nu - metal and journos started to refer to the previos waves (60s,70s and 80s as classic)

But you are right - even Bon Jovi etc got called Heavy Metal and featured on Headbangers Ball
Back then (1980) the only bands that were really heavy (or unlistenable  depending on your point of view ) were the likes of Venom and Motorhead until in about 1983 we started to hear of bands like Metallica, Anthrax etc and they got called Thrash Metal.

And all those 80s bands with spandex pants, pointy guitars and big hair (like Poison, Motley, Ratt, WASP, and even Skid Row) tended to get called "glam rock" (an echo from the 70s) - it was only really about 1989/90 as Grunge was coming in that the term "Hair Metal tended to get used and by that time it was getting phased out.

And you didn't have "vintage electric guitars" until the mid 80s either - you just tended to have a pre-CBS strat or a 59 Les Paul

[Philly Q]

And you didn't have "vintage electric guitars" until the mid 80s either - you just tended to have a pre-CBS strat or a 59 Les Paul

That's true, I never thought of that before!  :lol:

I don't actually remember the term "vintage" becoming common parlance, it just sort of sneaked up on us and it feels like it's always been there.

I grew up with the "received wisdom" that only pre-CBS Fenders were any good.  And '50s and '60s Gibsons.  And no way should you touch anything made in the '70s!  (although we were all highly impressed when a kid called Roger Hopkins turned up in school with a brand-new natural ash, big-headstock maple neck Strat, circa 1979....  :lol: ) 

Despite their "vintage" status, I still regard '70s Fenders and Gibsons with suspicion.  But I must admit I've lost any prejudice I may have had about late '60s Strats!  :D 

[juansolo]

Best metal albums ever and they're confusing rock'n'roll acts like AC/DC and GnR with metal?! Everything else seems to be from the last few years with a couple of notable exceptions. No Mindcrime (metal's DSotM), no Dio (Rising/Heaven&Hell/Mob Rules/Holy Diver, all time classics every one). PAH!

[nfe]

NME reader buys magazine that advertises poll for best metal albums. Reader is nominally a sensible metal fan and votes for metallica.

NME readers dad finds magazine, votes for ACDC

NME readers son find magazine, vote for Avenged sevenfold.

Metal Dad tells his dad "thats great but its not metal", his dad shrugs, says "sounds like metal to me". Metal dad tells his son "Thats metal, I suppose, but its $%&#ing shiteee" and he should get some proper metal herataige. Son yells that he hates his dad, slams the door, runs to his room and whines on facebook to all his mates, telling them to vote for their favourite bands, which are assuredly shiteee, as seen in the poll. One of said friends is not otherwise occupied complaining about his parents/school/ineptitude with girls, slamming doors or bemoaning the injustices and suffering of middle class suburban life to vote.

Hence the approximately 1:1:2 ratio of actually good metal to good but not metal to metal but anything but good.

Thats exactly how it happened.

But with slightly different bands each time.  

Believe.

I think that makes pretty much perfect sense.  :lol:

At least until the next hypothesis comes along.

I think my hypothesis is more accurate.

NME announces poll online. People post it on facebook. Street teamers get hold.

Done.

[asianaxeman]

I think my hypothesis is more accurate.

NME announces poll online. People post it on facebook. Street teamers get hold.

Done.
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oh right so it was YOU and YOUR MATES that voted for avenged sevenfold and bring me the horizon, that explains it!  :mrgreen:

[Philly Q]

NME reader buys magazine that advertises poll for best metal albums. Reader is nominally a sensible metal fan and votes for metallica.

NME readers dad finds magazine, votes for ACDC

NME readers son find magazine, vote for Avenged sevenfold.

Metal Dad tells his dad "thats great but its not metal", his dad shrugs, says "sounds like metal to me". Metal dad tells his son "Thats metal, I suppose, but its $%&#ing shiteeee" and he should get some proper metal herataige. Son yells that he hates his dad, slams the door, runs to his room and whines on facebook to all his mates, telling them to vote for their favourite bands, which are assuredly shiteeee, as seen in the poll. One of said friends is not otherwise occupied complaining about his parents/school/ineptitude with girls, slamming doors or bemoaning the injustices and suffering of middle class suburban life to vote.

Hence the approximately 1:1:2 ratio of actually good metal to good but not metal to metal but anything but good.

Thats exactly how it happened.

But with slightly different bands each time.  

Believe.

I think that makes pretty much perfect sense.  :lol:

At least until the next hypothesis comes along.

I think my hypothesis is more accurate.

NME announces poll online. People post it on facebook. Street teamers get hold.

Done.

I don't know which hypothesis is best really, just thought MDV's post was funny  . 

Anyway, all best band, best film, best book, best album, best guitarist, best anything polls are nonsense ultimately, aren't they?

[nfe]

Absolutely.

The reason I'd posted this was that it was a testament to the power of street teams in the era of social networking. I just thought it hilarious. Likely one facebook update from BMTH saying "vote for us on this link" was all it took.

[Alex]

2 Avenged Sevenfold, 2 Slipknot albums and the Bullet for my Valentine album discredit that poll completely.

[Sailor Charon]

I see there's a whole lot of stuff about which bands do or don't count as metal...
Well, my old guitar teacher referred to Black Sabbath as 'Hard Rock'
And don't forget that Lemmy insists that Motorhead are Rock 'n' Roll...
As for me, I'm not too bothered one way or the other...