Looking for that Schenker Wall Of Sound!

[TheyCallMeVolume]

I like a RY for this to be honest with you.

[FELINEGUITARS]

Schenker has tended to use a ceramic magnet bridge pickup since the late 1970s in the bridge 9if not both positions)
I have a pair of the Dean Lights Out in one of my guitars (guess I am the resident Schenker fan-boy here to some extent)

So you will find that the Cold Sweat, Ceramic Bomb and Aftermath and maybe the Miracle Man will all work well
The Aftermath has a certain similarity to the Dirty Fingers that MS used in the early 80s

However I tend usually to favour the Cold Sweat in guitars that are a bit dark - Schenkers classic sound is pretty bright!
I was tinkering with a design that Tim did for me that was similar to the Aftermath but with just one row of screw poles  to reduce the low mids (was toying with calling it "The Obsession" model).

Listen to this clip for "classic Schenker" - doesn't get much better than this  for me in many ways
I saw this clip 30 years ago and was completely bowled over - the whole concert (Live at Rockpalast) is available on DVD

http://youtu.be/22RdpmXWWg8


And here is that same song 30 years later - 2010

http://youtu.be/ZKAV6wsB1-4

[AnnunakiMassacr]

I'm actually really looking for the sound in that last clip. What would you recommend for that? Sorry to keep asking, it's just really hard.

[AnnunakiMassacr]

Also, how do you rate the Light's Out pickups?

EDIT: I've just come across the JVM410JS Satriani model. What do people think of this for an amp of sheer versatility?

[FELINEGUITARS]

The Dean that he uses is a bit beefier than a regular V which helps a lot - has a maple top which focuses the top end a bit more.

I like the Lights Out pickups ok - have them in a strat type guitar at the moment.
They don't have the character that the BKPs have in a way

I would maybe go for either the Aftermath or thinking about it use a Rebel yell as the alnico magnet will keep things warm.

The Satch amp should work pretty well too.

[gwEm]

I pretty much totally agree with Jonathan here.

I would certainly go for a ceramic pickup in the 14-16k range. The miracle man sounds very contemporary in a V, which I don't find too Schenker, though you could make it work.

I can see why people suggest the Rebel Yell, since it has that big sound in a Les Paul. I tried a Rebel Yell once in a Gibson V90 and found it somewhat lacking in bass after the initial honeymoon period. Perhaps the construction of the Dean Schenker models may help here.

The big thing for that Schenker tone is a wah pedal!

[AnnunakiMassacr]

Ordered the Rebel Yell bridge :)

Ordering 3 Warmoth guitars at the end of the week so I'll be doing a post for that. I have bad GAS (that sounded wrong). But want to be ready for Uni so making most of it. I'm going to be after some unique choices. Hopefully you can be as helpful as you have been on this post :)

[FELINEGUITARS]

I pretty much totally agree with Jonathan here.

I would certainly go for a ceramic pickup in the 14-16k range. The miracle man sounds very contemporary in a V, which I don't find too Schenker, though you could make it work.

I can see why people suggest the Rebel Yell, since it has that big sound in a Les Paul. I tried a Rebel Yell once in a Gibson V90 and found it somewhat lacking in bass after the initial honeymoon period. Perhaps the construction of the Dean Schenker models may help here.

The big thing for that Schenker tone is a wah pedal!

Your V90 surely has a maple neck though and a 25.5" scale - will make a difference!

[hunter]

I saw this clip 30 years ago and was completely bowled over - the whole concert (Live at Rockpalast) is available on DVD

http://youtu.be/22RdpmXWWg8


And here is that same song 30 years later - 2010

http://youtu.be/ZKAV6wsB1-4

2010 sounds like there is a thick blanket over the cab compared to the 80s tone.

[ericsabbath]

Also, how do you rate the Light's Out pickups?

EDIT: I've just come across the JVM410JS Satriani model. What do people think of this for an amp of sheer versatility?

didn't know there was a signature JVM
suppose that should be at least as good as the non signature version
it's pretty versatile and better than schenker's amp, in my opinion
just be careful with the gain, as it can easily get overkill
moderate gain modes and settings sound really good for that type of tone

[TheyCallMeVolume]

Ordered the Rebel Yell bridge :)

Ordering 3 Warmoth guitars at the end of the week so I'll be doing a post for that. I have bad GAS (that sounded wrong). But want to be ready for Uni so making most of it. I'm going to be after some unique choices. Hopefully you can be as helpful as you have been on this post :)

Great! You'll love it!

[AnnunakiMassacr]

I've actually scr@pped the 3 Warmoth idea. I really don't like the idea of a one-piece neck. So going to just upgrade my Ibanez Sabre - mind it's in pieces at the moment haha. Just about to start a thread on it. Oh and my Rebel Yells are due for today :) Gonna try them in my Epi LP

[asianaxeman]

the ceramic nailbomb is basically an overwound version of the cold sweat, so you get more compression and midrange body and a little less top end
this one is actually closer to schenker pickups (duncan custom and the dean lights out)

completely agree, i have the cbomb / cs combo in a mahogany v and it sounds closest to the schenker tone amongst my BKPs