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Re: anyone try these strat-sized P90s?
« Reply #15 on: October 02, 2012, 02:17:54 PM »
SDS arrived. Its a funny looking thing(!)

I've always felt DiMarzio definitely don't use the same quality materials as BKP or even Seymour Duncan, and thats not changed. The plastics seem decent, but the hookup wire is thin and nasty. I wonder what the actual wire for the coils is like..

I'll see what it sounds like on the weekend. The magnets are substantial, so I have high hopes.
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Re: anyone try these strat-sized P90s?
« Reply #16 on: October 02, 2012, 02:28:26 PM »
SDS arrived. Its a funny looking thing(!)

I've always felt DiMarzio definitely don't use the same quality materials as BKP or Seymour Duncan, and thats not changed. The plastics seem decent, but the hookup wire is thin and nasty. I wonder what the actual wire for the coils is like.

I'll see what it sounds like on the weekend. The magnets are substantial, so I have high hopes.

I always felt the same way, however, I usually prefer them of Seymour Duncans by a long shot. They have a certain clarity that most seymour duncans have never had and they have their own distinctive voicing that some like and some don't. They are my go-to budget pickup makers. That said, I would only use them for virtuoso music and rock. Definately not blues of jazz or them like. Thats where Seymour Duncans are better suited. I don't think that I have ever liked a duncan pickup that was higher output than the JB. Always too muddy with a poor voicing.

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Re: anyone try these strat-sized P90s?
« Reply #17 on: October 02, 2012, 02:34:38 PM »
SDS arrived. Its a funny looking thing(!)

I've always felt DiMarzio definitely don't use the same quality materials as BKP or Seymour Duncan, and thats not changed. The plastics seem decent, but the hookup wire is thin and nasty. I wonder what the actual wire for the coils is like.

I'll see what it sounds like on the weekend. The magnets are substantial, so I have high hopes.

I always felt the same way, however, I usually prefer them of Seymour Duncans by a long shot. They have a certain clarity that most seymour duncans have never had and they have their own distinctive voicing that some like and some don't. They are my go-to budget pickup makers. That said, I would only use them for virtuoso music and rock. Definately not blues of jazz or them like. Thats where Seymour Duncans are better suited. I don't think that I have ever liked a duncan pickup that was higher output than the JB. Always too muddy with a poor voicing.

I agree - even if the materials are cheap DiMarzio seem to design them quite well so the sound is pretty good and the prices are fairly reasonable, especially in the US. I don't mind buying an unusual pickup like this from them, I have some hum-canceling single coils from them too.

On the other hand, BKPs blow the DiMarzios into the weeds quite obviously in a direct test - especially for the vintage voiced models.
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Re: anyone try these strat-sized P90s?
« Reply #18 on: October 02, 2012, 02:46:58 PM »
I prefer DiMarzios to Duncans, too. 

I've always found the descriptions on their website pretty accurate, and they have some pickups I've really liked over the years - Fred, the MegaDrive, the DLX models, some of the HS and Virtual Vintage series.  I agree they're not the best place for "vintage" pickups.

That said, I've bought a brand new DiMarzio which was broken, and that's never happened with a Duncan!
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Re: anyone try these strat-sized P90s?
« Reply #19 on: October 02, 2012, 03:01:37 PM »
SDS arrived. Its a funny looking thing(!)

I've always felt DiMarzio definitely don't use the same quality materials as BKP or Seymour Duncan, and thats not changed. The plastics seem decent, but the hookup wire is thin and nasty. I wonder what the actual wire for the coils is like.

I'll see what it sounds like on the weekend. The magnets are substantial, so I have high hopes.

I always felt the same way, however, I usually prefer them of Seymour Duncans by a long shot. They have a certain clarity that most seymour duncans have never had and they have their own distinctive voicing that some like and some don't. They are my go-to budget pickup makers. That said, I would only use them for virtuoso music and rock. Definately not blues or jazz or the like. Thats where Seymour Duncans are better suited. I don't think that I have ever liked a duncan pickup that was higher output than the JB. Always too muddy with a poor voicing.

I agree - even if the materials are cheap DiMarzio seem to design them quite well so the sound is pretty good and the prices are fairly reasonable, especially in the US. I don't mind buying an unusual pickup like this from them, I have some hum-canceling single coils from them too.

On the other hand, BKPs blow the DiMarzios into the weeds quite obviously in a direct test - especially for the vintage voiced models.

Well, that goes without saying doesn't it?

But yes, DiMarzio voice their pickups quite well. Really nice and fat sounding. Compared to BKPs they sound rather processed though and slightly muddier too.

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Re: anyone try these strat-sized P90s?
« Reply #20 on: October 09, 2012, 11:27:14 AM »
well, it sounds pretty much like Wez and darkbluemurder described.

I stuck it in my Yamaha, which previously had an Injector. Sounds pretty good: raw, thick, more natural than the Injector. But there is a hum there, surprisingly loud, and also its a bit fuzzy.

Only live use will tell if its an improvement, but I kind of like it so far. I have an idea that a more boutique manufacturer would improve on this concept though.
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Re: anyone try these strat-sized P90s?
« Reply #21 on: October 09, 2012, 11:30:18 AM »
So were you ultimately not keen on the Injectors?  I quite liked the description of them.
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Re: anyone try these strat-sized P90s?
« Reply #22 on: October 09, 2012, 12:11:23 PM »
So were you ultimately not keen on the Injectors?  I quite liked the description of them.

I liked the Injector, but I wanted something a bit darker and a bit rawer. I still may put it back, the Yamaha was just a convenient guitar to try the SDS in.

Happy to lend the Injector to you if you want to try it out?
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Re: anyone try these strat-sized P90s?
« Reply #23 on: October 09, 2012, 12:15:51 PM »
So were you ultimately not keen on the Injectors?  I quite liked the description of them.

I liked the Injector, but I wanted something a bit darker and a bit rawer. I still may put it back, the Yamaha was just a convenient guitar to try the SDS in.

Happy to lend the Injector to you if you want to try it out?

I don't think he's ever get to putting them in a guitar :lol:
You'd have to set a return date!

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Re: anyone try these strat-sized P90s?
« Reply #24 on: October 09, 2012, 01:25:45 PM »
So were you ultimately not keen on the Injectors?  I quite liked the description of them.

I liked the Injector, but I wanted something a bit darker and a bit rawer. I still may put it back, the Yamaha was just a convenient guitar to try the SDS in.

Happy to lend the Injector to you if you want to try it out?

I don't think he's ever get to putting them in a guitar :lol:
You'd have to set a return date!

That is a good point....  :lol:


I would be intrigued to try it though.  It would be interesting to see how it goes with the Area 58 and/or 61.
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