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mantrasky

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Single Coil Middle pup?
« on: May 15, 2015, 01:07:20 AM »
I've been thinking of a Middle Single Coil Pickup for my Charvel (Maple Neck/Board & Alder Body), Currently I have the "Holy Diver Calibrated set" (6-string) I want to convert to HSH and Schaller Mega-E 5-way switch. I was wondering if the BKP members could Recommend me a pup? (my style: Classical Jazz Rock, Progressive Fusion Pop) What would be a great Single Coil to work with the HD's (amazing pup's),

Thank You in advance for the Help!

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Re: Single Coil Middle pup?
« Reply #1 on: May 15, 2015, 09:37:11 AM »
The obvious choice is the Irish Tour. It takes the absolute classic single coil sound of the Mothers Milk, adds a bit of bass, warms up and fills out the mids, rolls of the high end slightly, and adds a certain kind of magic rock sparkle. It however still remains classic in core voicing, with the volume rolled back you get into MM terretory, but the added stuff makes it hold up better under gain and when combined with humbuckers such as the HD.

The Slowhand does the same, but even more in all directions.
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Re: Single Coil Middle pup?
« Reply #2 on: May 16, 2015, 09:44:45 AM »
The obvious choice is the Irish Tour. It takes the absolute classic single coil sound of the Mothers Milk, adds a bit of bass, warms up and fills out the mids, rolls of the high end slightly, and adds a certain kind of magic rock sparkle. It however still remains classic in core voicing, with the volume rolled back you get into MM terretory, but the added stuff makes it hold up better under gain and when combined with humbuckers such as the HD.

The Slowhand does the same, but even more in all directions.

+1 ;-)
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mantrasky

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Re: Single Coil Middle pup?
« Reply #3 on: May 16, 2015, 11:26:31 AM »
Thanks Kiichi for the information! I also asked Tim who has been a great help and he said: Hi Mike

It depends where you're wanting to go with this tonally. My recommendation for a hot vintage tone would be '63 Veneer Board mid coil and for a contemporary tone, the Trilogy Suite.

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Re: Single Coil Middle pup?
« Reply #4 on: May 16, 2015, 11:43:32 AM »
The Veneer Board 63 is very close to the Mother's Milk. Blindfolded only few can tell what is what. I'd stick to the Irish Tour, especially when it's paired with Divers.
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mantrasky

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Re: Single Coil Middle pup?
« Reply #5 on: May 16, 2015, 12:51:04 PM »
Thank You Telerocker! I would definitely consider the Irish Tour if my guitar was a dedicated Strat where the Pickup would be "On it's own" meaning my favorite 5-way is the Schaller where it combines the different coils together (example:) HSH

Coils:
A&B = Bridge
A&C = Coil next to Bridge & Middle PU
A&E = Coil next to Bridge and the Coil next to the Neck
C&D = Middle PU & Coil closes to the mid-PU
D&E = Neck

With these connections, All the Pickups are "Humbucking" great tones overall. If I were using a more Traditional 5-way / Super-switch / 3-way etc. then I would look for other options. This combinations blends "Very Nice" from Cleans to Blues to Hard Rock, I've used this setup for years (I've also had about every Pickup combinations from every guitar) This combination in a blindfold test, sounds remarkably "Tele/2&4th position Strat-quack/Neck-Humbucking variation/Great Bridge Humbucking lead&Rhy/Wonderful Neck Voicing & Rhythm".

(I also love a straight Fender Start and Les Paul tones)

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Re: Single Coil Middle pup?
« Reply #6 on: May 16, 2015, 10:44:40 PM »
I've been thinking of a Middle Single Coil Pickup for my Charvel (Maple Neck/Board & Alder Body), Currently I have the "Holy Diver Calibrated set" (6-string) I want to convert to HSH and Schaller Mega-E 5-way switch. I was wondering if the BKP members could Recommend me a pup? (my style: Classical Jazz Rock, Progressive Fusion Pop) What would be a great Single Coil to work with the HD's (amazing pup's),

Thank You in advance for the Help!

My Kramer Pacer is routed for HSH and the Slow Hand middle I use is superb. It splits with h/b's brilliantly.
Nothing sounds like a Skyline GTR ...... but BKP comes close!

mantrasky

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Re: Single Coil Middle pup?
« Reply #7 on: May 17, 2015, 01:10:50 AM »
Thanks seancorker! My son is big time into BKP and has had almost every pickup and the "Slow Hand" is an awesome pickup and yes it's also seriously considered!

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Re: Single Coil Middle pup?
« Reply #8 on: May 17, 2015, 09:41:41 AM »
It's simple: Veneer Board 63 > Mother's Milk > Irish Tour > Slowhand. From left to right mids and bass are enhanced, topend gets rounder.
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mantrasky

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Re: Single Coil Middle pup?
« Reply #9 on: May 17, 2015, 01:07:19 PM »
Thanks Telerocker I'll take that under consideration \../

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Re: Single Coil Middle pup?
« Reply #10 on: May 17, 2015, 01:27:03 PM »
Although the Veneer Board's bass-end is on par with the MM.
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Re: Single Coil Middle pup?
« Reply #11 on: May 29, 2015, 01:13:16 PM »
I'm Happy with my choice for the middle Single Coil (Trilogy Suite RWRP) after trying MM/IT/SH and Veneer Board 63, the Best tones came from the Trilogy Suite. The other pickups sound great "On there Own" but with my choice of Schaller "E" 5-Way selector the Trilogy was almost always Paired with one of the Holy Diver's coils. The other Pups because of the Lower output, didn't stand out where as the TS blended wonderfully! "Very Strat-quack to Tele" and variations, been breaking in new strings and enjoying the new Trilogy Suite & Holy Diver (Set) Awesome tones!!! Thank you guys for the great input! I'm back to playing.............
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Re: Single Coil Middle pup?
« Reply #12 on: May 30, 2015, 01:51:50 AM »
TS is good in what it does, yet is far away from a vintage stratpickup. To my ears direction P90.
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Re: Single Coil Middle pup?
« Reply #13 on: May 30, 2015, 03:39:59 PM »
Telerocker, again if I were using a Single Coil Pickup "On it's own" and then (and if I were looking for a Vintage Tone) possibly they would be what I want, but as it is the guitar sounds wonderful! I tried the IT/MM/SH/63 enamel board and they were "Weak" sounding blended with the Holy Diver "split/coil" configuration and the Trilogy Suite output matched awesome and it gives me a great Strat-quack, Tele, and variation tones along with great Humbucking Lead & Rhythm positions that is very pleasing and "In NO-Way" sounding like a P90! I have plenty of Gibson SG's, Les Paul's & PRS with P90's, "Night and Day Difference". The Charvel is a great sounding guitar on it's own and what it does, I can walk in and do sessions all day from classical to hard rock (depending on production) I have many original Fender's from the 50's & 60's to know what "Vintage" sounds like, but I prefer to take a couple of guitars (typically Strat w/tremolo and HSH & LP w/Page-mod push-pull) covers a lot of ground.   

thanks.

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Re: Single Coil Middle pup?
« Reply #14 on: June 06, 2015, 03:41:26 PM »
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