Author Topic: Rebel yell (Read 6062 times)

Philly Q · « **Reply #15 on:** January 07, 2007, 10:30:15 PM »

Because the neck and bridge pickups are different - they're wound for their respective positions. The neck pickup is less powerful than the bridge, because the neck position is inherently louder. And sometimes they use different magnets - e.g the Cold Sweat bridge is Ceramic but the CS neck is Alnico V.

To put it another way, there are "Neck" and "Bridge" versions of each pickup, and they can be bought separately or as a set. The RY bridge is the same as the bridge pup in a calibrated RY set and the RY neck is the same as the neck pup in a calibrated RY set.

BloodMountain · « **Reply #16 on:** January 07, 2007, 10:31:24 PM »

very well put.

Supern00b · « **Reply #17 on:** January 08, 2007, 02:41:56 AM »

ok it just clicked.

the price increase from the regulars to the calibrated set was the word "set"

2 pups. i didnt know that.

Philly Q · « **Reply #18 on:** January 08, 2007, 10:44:57 AM »

Quote from: Supern00b

the price increase from the regulars to the calibrated set was the word "set"

2 pups. i didnt know that.

It's those little words that count! I must admit, looking at the Products page and the BKP Shop, it doesn't actually make it abundantly clear what a "set" is. Especially when ordering a set, you specify the details as if it's just one pickup.

Sorry if my earlier post sounded patronising.

Supern00b · « **Reply #19 on:** January 09, 2007, 01:34:52 AM »

forgiven and forgotten, partially because idk what patronising means and im too lazy to look it up

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RY or crawler? check sig for gear

also, do you all think that i can get a thick sound outta my alder bodied strat with the above pups?

Supern00b · « **Reply #20 on:** January 11, 2007, 04:13:17 PM »

Philly Q · « **Reply #21 on:** January 11, 2007, 11:08:49 PM »

Quote from: Supern00b

RY or crawler? check sig for gear

also, do you all think that i can get a thick sound outta my alder bodied strat with the above pups?

Sorry, of the pickups mentioned I only have the RY and that's not in a Strat, so I can't offer a first-hand opinion. It'll definitely be bright-sounding in a Strat, though.

I do know that the Crawler was specifically designed to work equally well in a Les Paul or a Strat, and I also know that quite a few guys on the forum are full of praise for VHIIs in Strats. So I don't think you'd go far wrong with either of those, or with the all-rounder, the Mule.

Then again, if Tim recommended the RY...

Supern00b · « **Reply #22 on:** January 12, 2007, 12:53:48 AM »

Quote from: Philly Q

Quote from: Supern00b
RY or crawler? check sig for gear

also, do you all think that i can get a thick sound outta my alder bodied strat with the above pups?

Sorry, of the pickups mentioned I only have the RY and that's not in a Strat, so I can't offer a first-hand opinion. It'll definitely be bright-sounding in a Strat, though.

I do know that the Crawler was specifically designed to work equally well in a Les Paul or a Strat, and I also know that quite a few guys on the forum are full of praise for VHIIs in Strats. So I don't think you'd go far wrong with either of those, or with the all-rounder, the Mule.

Then again, if Tim recommended the RY...

hmm, so then what can the RY and the crawler do that the mule can't?

Philly Q · « **Reply #23 on:** January 12, 2007, 01:49:17 AM »

Well, the Mule is basically like a late 50s Gibson PAF. PAFs weren't all the same, some had more windings than others, they used different types of Alnico magnets, DC resistance varied between 7 and 9K - but the Mule is around 8K, and about as near as you can get to a "typical" vintage humbucker tone.

The Crawler also has a PAF-like tone, but it has significantly higher output so it'll overdrive an amp more easily - but won't clean up quite as well. The Rebel Yell is similar in output to the Crawler, but it's brighter and tighter, with more emphasis on the upper midrange.

For maximum versatility the Mule is, by all accounts, the perfect choice. It'll do clean, it'll do dirty. It'll do pop, blues, indie, rock, even a bit of metal. If you want more of a classic rock/70s hard rock sound, go for the Crawler. If you want a rock sound with a brighter, more modern edge, go Rebel Yell. That's about all I can tell you really.

Supern00b · « **Reply #24 on:** January 12, 2007, 02:43:29 AM »

Quote from: Philly Q

Well, the Mule is basically like a late 50s Gibson PAF. PAFs weren't all the same, some had more windings than others, they used different types of Alnico magnets, DC resistance varied between 7 and 9K - but the Mule is around 8K, and about as near as you can get to a "typical" vintage humbucker tone.

The Crawler also has a PAF-like tone, but it has significantly higher output so it'll overdrive an amp more easily - but won't clean up quite as well. The Rebel Yell is similar in output to the Crawler, but it's brighter and tighter, with more emphasis on the upper midrange.

For maximum versatility the Mule is, by all accounts, the perfect choice. It'll do clean, it'll do dirty. It'll do pop, blues, indie, rock, even a bit of metal. If you want more of a classic rock/70s hard rock sound, go for the Crawler. If you want a rock sound with a brighter, more modern edge, go Rebel Yell. That's about all I can tell you really.

thanks. wat does clean up mean?

Philly Q · « **Reply #25 on:** January 12, 2007, 08:39:16 AM »

I mean it's more difficult to get a good clean sound with the higher output pickups, because they'll overdrive an amp even on low settings. A lower output pickup, on the other hand, will give you clean when you want clean.