right i have narrowed down my neck choices

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to COLD SWEAT & MIRACLE MAN

i hear that the miracle man neck is the same as the cold sweat neck just a little hotter.

is this right?? because i love the cold sweat neck clips ive heard but would like them to be just a little bit hotter.

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MM neck is certainly hotter (& not just by a little), but I don't think they are tonally the same.

I actually use my MM neck split much of the time & have never done a serious side-by-side comparison, so I'll have a serious play tonight & report back with a bit more detail :)

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MM neck is certainly hotter (& not just by a little), but I don't think they are tonally the same.

I actually use my MM neck split much of the time & have never done a serious side-by-side comparison, so I'll have a serious play tonight & report back with a bit more detail :)

cheers man i really appreciate it.

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Tim wrote:
The Cold Sweat neck pickup is the same as the Miracle Man neck.........Alnico V DC17.5K............hot, fluid and masses of sustain.The in between tone with both CS bridge(ceramic) and CS neck(Alnico V) on together is lovely and quacky Very Happy


(Tim talking about the old CS neck in aug 2005)


This was just posted in my thread.... so, they atleast at one time were the same.... I guess changes have been made since then

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Tim wrote:
The Cold Sweat neck pickup is the same as the Miracle Man neck.........Alnico V DC17.5K

Well the Cold Sweat neck I have is 8.2k & the MM neck is a lot more than that - 13.6k IIRC (though I'll have to dig out the card to be sure).

As I said, I've never seriously sat down & A/B'd the two, but my impression is that the MM neck has a lot more grunt than the CS. YMMV etc...

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OK, according to the warranty cards, my MM neck is 17.5k :!: :o & my CS neck 8.2k.

The baby had an early night & I got stuck in the office late, so haven't had a chance to A/B the two through my Mesa at proper volumes, but here are a few comments from playing through my VooduValve on headphones:

The MM has a LOT more output.  It also seems to have more bass & sound more "compressed" than the CS.
The CS seems brighter & more "open".
Both are good at neck leads, but you hardly even need to use a pick with the MM :) - it does that thick fluid legato neck lead noodling so well :D
But IMO the CS has a far superior clean sound - if neck cleans are important, then it's no contest - CS every time.

Hope this helps...

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the CS has a far superior clean sound - if neck cleans are important, then it's no contest - CS every time.

Hope this helps...

that just settled it for me. i use my neck exclusively for cleans (when i have a good PUP)

and how is the voodu valve?? ive been looking at them for ages but only had futurism's clips from netmusicians.org

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and how is the voodu valve??

It's a really useful home recording tool - you have pretty much any sound you want on tap with all the effects you're likely to need (the reverbs & delays are especially good) + speaker sim so you can record direct.

Almost all the stock factory presets are cr@p (far, far too much treble) - the "Alex Lifeson" & "Luke Warm" patches are the only ones I use without modification, however you can get some very nice sounds if you play around with it for long enough.  There are a lot of settings to change - particularly eq settings, so it takes a bit of time to get the sound you want, but it's all in there somewhere.  I don't think I've used a fraction of the VooduValve's capabilities.

I don't think it's tonally as good as a decent valve head & cab properly mic'd but it has its place in my setup & I'm glad I have it...

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and how is the voodu valve??

It's a really useful home recording tool - you have pretty much any sound you want on tap with all the effects you're likely to need (the reverbs & delays are especially good) + speaker sim so you can record direct.

Almost all the stock factory presets are cr@p (far, far too much treble) - the "Alex Lifeson" & "Luke Warm" patches are the only ones I use without modification, however you can get some very nice sounds if you play around with it for long enough.  There are a lot of settings to change - particularly eq settings, so it takes a bit of time to get the sound you want, but it's all in there somewhere.  I don't think I've used a fraction of the VooduValve's capabilities.

I don't think it's tonally as good as a decent valve head & cab properly mic'd but it has its place in my setup & I'm glad I have it...

well i was thinking of getting one of them and a valve power amp of some kind and hooking into a cab.

My other choice is a bugera 6260 or a engl fireball if i can not spend my money for long enough