Engl Screamer -> How to get Slash, Gary Moore sound?

[Yamhammer]

Which effects and set-up do I need to get that Gary Moore?

Everytime I'm almost there, but I think I'm doing something wrong in the set-up. The feedback is really way too much.

[hunter]

Ch2 + Boost

Gain noon

Bass 2 PM
mids 2 PM
Treb 1 PM

Presence 11 AM

Edit: I THINK these were my settings, but it's been 2 years since I had a screamer  :roll:

[Ted]

Cut back on the gain?

[Henk]

Gary more used a cranked up plexi with a destortion type stompbox called a guv'nor afaik. Marshall did reissue that thing later but imo its a really cheesy reissue.

If you set your amp to a moderate setting youll probably get close allthoug gary more is all marshall sounding. The original guv'nor wouldnt be affordable, but there is this pedal call a marshall shred master which i believe would get you very close, its also discontinued so you have to look for one second hand. The shredmaster is the solid state preamp section of what ended up in the valvestate series.

Using an OD9 overdrive instead of a distortion wont work imo, think more in terms of sustain then actual overdriven tubes and youll be half way i think.

[FELINEGUITARS]

I'd go with what Hunter said
Sounds like you are using too much gain or are too close to amp
Try more volume and less gain

[blue]

i always used to crank up the gain when trying to get that singing sustaining sound, that seemed to be the only way to get it.  i've found now that reducing the pre-amp gain and pushing up the master is much closer to that type of sound.  basically it's much cleaner than you think, the power and sustain come from the power-amp working hard rather than pre-amp distortion.  i know Gary Moore is known for using a Marshall Guv'nor overdrive ( which i have) and i'm pretty sure Slash has used overdrives, but i remember that he actually used an EQ pedal to boost his mids and overall level for solos.  i now use a treble booster pedal rather than an overdrive.

i reckon you should roll back the gain, maybe even use the cleaner channel if it does a crunchy sound, and then use your pedal with the level turned up to hit the amp harder, hopefully driving it into a creamy sustain.

of course the problem is volume, at low volume you may just have to stick with loads of distortion

[Yamhammer]

Thanks for all your help guys.

[noodleplugerine]

Thanks for all your help guys.

I seriously don't have a footswitch, so that's the first thing I must change in the set-up. I think the amp NEEDS a footswitch to have a better control over the channels.

This is very true - When I first got my Screamer, the guy throwing in the pedal seemed to me like just an added bonus, but now I realise how difficult things would be without it..

Hell - VLS would be totally unusable - You for instance probably can't use it whatsoever :o

[dave_mc]

from what i remember from trying the screamer, channel 3 was the smoothest...

i generally run engls with the bass and mids pretty high (say 8 or 9), but the treble and presence a lot lower (say 3-5). Try that.

I haven't tried a boost with one, though, so that'll affect things. I think using channel 4 is your problem, it's more voiced for the modern stuff.

hunter's advice is probably pretty sound too, considering he used to own one...

 :twisted:

[Yamhammer]

Ch2 + Boost

Gain noon

Bass 2 PM
mids 2 PM
Treb 1 PM

Presence 11 AM

Edit: I THINK these were my settings, but it's been 2 years since I had a screamer  :roll:

1) What do you mean with 'gain noon'?
2) What is the best booster? -> overdrive pedal or distortion pedal?

[samoth2]

I think he means pointing straight up